User talk:Peridon

Just in case anyone wants to talk to me.... Peridon (talk) 20:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The rest of this is archived somewhere. There's a nice little bot comes in and tidies up. (Could do with one at home...) A very kind person has organised an archive box that even has a search bar in it. (No beer, though....)

PLEASE ADD MESSAGES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE SO THAT I WILL SEE THEM. I LOOK THERE FIRST. Post at the top and you risk being missed altogether. Thanks. Do put a heading inside == == and sign with ~~~~. If you don't get a reply from me (or one of the stalkers...) within a reasonable time, you've probably not read this. If you have read it and ignored it, it's your own fault. If you haven't read it, READ IT NOW. Another reason to post at the bottom is that if you post at the top and someone else posts at the bottom, I'll see their message, but won't suspect there's another. Up to you. Ignore this if you want. Just don't blame me.

"I deleted infox's talk page for no raisin. I hate grapes." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.5.157.177 (talk) 18:36, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I don't like raisins, but do like grapes. Peridon (talk) 18:42, 24 January 2015 (UTC) I like this message.

78.26's RFA Appreciation award

	The 78.26 RFA Appreciation award
	Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 24:51, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Undeletion request for Lucidsamples

Hello. I have added some reliable independent sources and removed all the marketing/enthusiastic statements. I would really appreciate this page to be available again. Thank you. Mtix (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2017 (UTC)Mtix

I'm feeling a bit shattered at the moment, so I'll ping @Ritchie333: to see if he'll have a look. I'm not too sure about the notability, but I wouldn't delete it as an article either. Can't remember why I userfied it, either - you may have asked me to. Ritchie, it's at User:Mtix /Lucid Samples if you could have a look. Thanks. (I do seem to have an extraneous space in that title - that's where it is, anyway.) Peridon (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Good evening, @Ritchie333: and @Peridon:! Are there any updates? I would really like the page Lucidsamples back online. Thank you for understanding.

I'll try @MelanieN: - she was away before but she'll be back now. A very good rescuer and improver. Peridon (talk) 17:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I took a look. Frankly I doubt whether this article would pass WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG, which are the requirements for having an article here. The deleted article had five references; the new page has 11; that is pretty much the only difference so it really isn't much improved. More of a problem, the new references are not independent. They are mostly sources from LucidSamples itself, plus a couple of interviews with specialty blogs. So they do not meet our requirement for independent reliable sources, which means significant coverage from outside sources like newspapers or magazines. If you can find any such outside coverage, add it and we'll talk. But for now I would not encourage restoring the article. It would only get deleted again (it's been deleted twice already), and you don't want it to get a history of being repeatedly deleted; that can result in the title getting locked to prevent repeated re-creation. Maybe wait a bit until the company receives more coverage or recognition and try again then. Sorry I couldn't be more help. --MelanieN (talk) 19:18, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your advices. You see, the company is still growing and gets more attention. So, as far as I understand it is the best to wait for independent, more reliable and bigger media to to set their eyes on Lucidsamples and then to put links from their articles on Wiki. Please note that lesser technical, specialty blogs are in many cases a better reference than a big magazine where everyone can appear after spending enough money. One more question: WP:GNG do not specify how big should be the entity giving "notability credit". Can I assume that one or two worldwide media plus growing number independent brand blogs or magazines will do good?

On the other hand Wikipedia is not only a source of well spread knowledge about big companies or venues. It works also as a place of reference for smaller ones. Kind regards, Mtix (talk) 09:31, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Undeletion request for Concerned Citizens of South Central Los Angeles

Hi! I recognize that you saw my page as unfinished, thats because its a semester long work in progress for a college course. We had to assign ourselves an influential environmental justice group (the class is in the environmental studies department) and either create or add on to an existing wikipedia page for them. In order to comply with the Wikiedu tasks we had to assign our username to the article and since CCSCLA didnt exist we had to create the page. The assignment is an effort to create some representation for these highly influential groups that get looked over because they work atthe intersection of race, class, gender, and environmental sustainability. CCSCLA is one of the most influential environmental justice books, often cited in many environmental studies textbooks. Their most notable achievement was the hault of the LANCER incinerator construction in Los Angeles that would cause health issues for residents of the surrounding community. We will be creating an encyclopedia style entry (up to all the wiki standards we are doing trainings in) with many cited sources (our annoted bibliographies were due today actually ive got 10+ sources lined up if you want to see them) and a non partial and non promotional writing style. Like I said its a work in progress and will be completed by the end of april. We will be constructing the page in my sandbox but we need the page to exist in order to do so in compliance with the wikiedu assign your article task.

Mtlang13 (talk) 05:39, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

It's now at User:Mtlang13/Concerned Citizens of South Central LA. Don't forget to read the policies linked on your talk page, and don't forget that not all subjects pass the notability requirements, no matter how influential they may seem locally, and no matter what college lecturers may think.... Please understand that while there may be collaboration between students, an account on Wikipedia is for one person only and passwords must not be shared. Avoid any signs of enthusiasm in the article. Don't move it into article space, or it is likely to be deleted again by someone. The places for article creation over a period of time are user space or the Draft: space. Once it gets past the showing notability stage, it could go into user space, but then you'll find gnomes invading and tidying things up. If you want (or need) it to be 'all our own work', it should be kept out of article space until the work is done. As I often point out, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and while educational projects are welcomed (usually...) they must work to the standards set. Stands to sense, really - if you get away with a lesser standard, you haven't learned how to do it properly anyway. OK. It's safe from the patrollers where it is, as regards notability, but do avoid looking like attack, hoax, copyright violation, or advertising/promotion. They can tag anywhere for those. And do. Promo is the danger. So many people now are accustomed to estate agent/realtor wording, and the excesses of other PR jargon, that they use the junk speek sic because they think that's how it should be. Look at what you write, and think, "Would I find this in a brochure, or on a website home page? Or would I find it in the Britannica?". Simplicity and neutrality are the keys. Good luck. Peridon (talk) 12:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

List of sex gangs

I don't know if you'll notice my response to your message on my talk page, so I'll also post it here: A3 applies to an article that "consists only of external links". List of sex gangs has no text, 27 external links, 11 links to other Wikipedia articles. While that's not "only" external links, it's over 70%. Chrisahn (talk) 11:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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Draft:Houston Plastic Surgeon - Dr. Wilberto Cortés

Hope all's well. Could you compare this draft you deleted a couple of weeks ago, with this current sandbox draft? There's something a bit funny going on; as you see, the subject is the same, but the current edition is a COI / autobiography written, he says, by himself (and of course that's another matter). But the previous one was created by socks [1]. So it would be interesting to establish the relationship between them all. If you could compare the two drafts, that would be a great help. Take care! O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 09:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The text is different, but both are pure and unadulterated spam. I would say they're from the same agency, one that can't get the idea that advertising and promo are not going to get onto Wikipedia into its collective head. I don't think it's him himself - the PR guff is to PR for a doctor. As it is, I'd say tag anything on this subject that looks the least bit promo as both promo and by a blocked or banned author. Leave a note explaining this on the talk page, as not all admins will know about it. I think he might have paid them for an article, and they're having trouble delivering. Could be wrong - he could be a blagger as well as a doctor. Personally, I can't see why there is this fascination in the US for the 'hourglass' figure anyway. I've never had a girlfriend shaped like that. I prefer them to look natural and real (and not be wearing about three layers of makeup too). Peridon (talk) 20:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The Backpacker Tax in Australia

Please reverse the deletion of the page "The Backpacker Tax in Australia". The original content on Reeffree is referenced and it was also written by the same author. This is an important topic in Australian news and does not appear elsewhere on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.99.226 (talk) 13:01, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Please be signed in when posting messages, and sign with ~~~~ to put your sig on. (Also, please put a heading on when it's a new thread.) I've already answered this at your user talk page. Peridon (talk) 13:06, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion Request to reverse page deletion -Planys Technologies

Please guide me to the reason for deleting this page "Planys Technologies" — Preceding unsigned comment added by AjithaKumar (talk • contribs) 11:00, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ to put your signature and the time stamp on, and please don't post in all bold on talk pages (it looks like shouting). I deleted the article because it was a repost of an article deleted at WP:Articles for deletion/Planys Technologies, without any improvement. If an article is deleted at AfD, you shouldn't just repost it as it was. or i will be deleted (as this one was). By the way, I would advise you that you should stick to one account when editing. There appear to be two accounts with your name, and another that has only edited concerning Planys. Yet another has edited Planys and one other subject - and I've just tagged their other article as being promotional. The article has been deleted quite a few times, which indicates that notability (WP:CORP is not being shown. Peridon (talk) 13:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

AjithaKumar (talk Thank you so much for the revert. Yes, I agree that initially we had given the page creation to an agency and they had messed it up. Now I have recreated the page by myself as a Marketing manager of the Company 'Planys Technologies'. As I'm not that familiar with Wikipedia policies, I request you to guide me as to how to get back the page. Should I create another account and recreate the page or just post the same on the current account as AjithaKumar (talk) 07:39, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Stick to using this account. You do need to declare on your user page that you are an employee of the company - see WP:PCD. The article is at User:AjithaKumar/Planys Technologies (for rewriting). What you need to do now is forget about marketing. Pretend you're an official of a court of law, and the judge has just said to you, "Planys Technologies? Who or what is Planys Technologies? Are they notable or not?", and it's your job to get the information for him. Neutrally worded, with no bold type, and no marketing speak (judges don't understand it - nor do most ordinary people, as it is usually meaningless anyway). The judge will want good references to make sure you aren't just making it all up - see WP:RS. The notability bit is at WP:CORP. Have a go - read other articles but don't assume that any one is the one to follow. By Sod's Law, the one you pick will be deleted in a few days for three different reasons. Look at quite a few, and average out. When you think you're getting somewhere, tell me, and I'll get someone not involved to look at it and make suggestions. Don't move it into article space, and leave the title as I've put it for now. I've removed the orphan tag, and I've blocked off the Categories, as they aren't supposed to be on things in user space. OK Mr Official - over to you. Peridon (talk) 13:31, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

undeletion request for Brad Champion

you deleted a new article that had already been reviewed and just noted for clean up. Brad Champion is a notable actor with cited credits. Business CEO who deals with large Cruise Lines. Community activist. All information was relevant and cited. Champion has had several named character appearances on large movies and tv shows such as A&E The Glades. Reason for deletion does not make sense with this information backing and supporting it. Thank you72.189.89.231 (talk) 18:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)<<<don't really understand what to do to sign>>>

To get a sig on, you have to be logged in (which is always a good idea as we then know you're you and not trying to pretend to be someone else), and type ~~~~ at the end of the post. OK. If you are Drumexpert510, I'm prepared to restore the article into your user space. It wouldn't stand in article space, or at Articles for Deletion. You need to read WP:BIO and WP:NACTOR about notability (general BIO, and ACTORs in particular). Being an extra isn't notable, and not all named characters are notable part. Also not notable are getting a degree, being in a fraternity, or starting a University troupe. The company only comes up with 14 Ghits, none of which look (at a quick glance) like reliable independent sources WP:RS - another policy to read. While I'm on about RS, IMDb, Facebook, LinkedIn and a Bizpedia profile are not RS. Log in, and let me know if you want me to put the article into your user space. I'll also ask someone to show you how to put references in properly. In user space, it'll be safe from the patrollers (apart from attack, hoax, copyright violation and advertising/promotion) while it's worked on. BTW Being reviewed doesn't mean that an article is stamped with official approval. It merely means that one reviewer thought it looked OK. Someone else didn't, and neither did I. But I'm prepared to let you work on it in user space, and to ask a friend to help if you get stuck. Peridon (talk) 20:00, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Undeletion Request for Grazitti Interactive

You deleted a new article about Grazitti Interactive. Please let us know what's the exact issue is there whether I need to change the content. Also there are some credible sources about Marketo, Salesforce, Alteryx are these not fine.

Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ to put your signature and the time stamp on. OK. The article, to my mind, didn't show any particular importance for the company. It gave the picture of a company doing a job, and nothing more. Being a sponsor of something is not notable, being in a top 100 at 61 the same. Please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory or social media. We insist on referencing with reliable independent sources WP:RS, which basically means sources that talk about the company and are in reliable places (not The National Enquirer, The Sun, or the Daily Mail), and which are not mentions in passing, quotes from the CEO, press releases, or directory entries or other simple listings. If you thing you can show that the company can pass WP:CORP with RS to back up the claims, I'm prepared to restore the article into your user space for improvement. I would advise doing something about the 'almost 15' employees' bit - 'almost' is fine in the hundreds, but not with small numbers. It suggests halves or quarters of an employee... Peridon (talk) 11:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Can this page be restored if I remove this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrysteven (talk • contribs) 06:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

You didn't sign - the poor little bot had to come and do it... OK. It's now at User:Henrysteven/Grazitti Interactive draft. I've taken the speedy tag off, and blocked off the Category (as Cats aren't supposed to be on things in user space). Looking at it, it's barely promotional (to me), but the notability needs establishing ([[WP::CORP]]) and the refs (WP:RS). When you think your getting somewhere (or even getting nowhere at all), let me know and I'll get someone uninvolved to look at it. Don't move it into article space (whatever the CEO says...), or change the title. Peridon (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2017 (UTC)