Talk:Seven Samurai

Clooney Remake

[1]Terrible news but shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere in the article?--Hypermagic 02:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

A Compliment

With the possible exception of the last line (which seems potentially a little too political, depending on how you look at it), this plot summary is awesome. It manages to describe all the important details of a 3 and a half hour movie without being overlong. Props to the writer-SF (unsigned)

remake of an American western

Magnificient Seven on TMC right now, the prelogue said that this is remake of Seven Samurai which is a remake of an American Western but didn't say which one. Would love to know, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.54.160.202 (talk) 20:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Seven Samurai isn't a remake of anything. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 20:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Origin of the story?

Is the basic story of the film the original (modern) creation of the screenplay writers, or is it based on a previously existing traditional Japanese fictional tale, or actual historical events? 87.81.230.195 (talk) 00:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

According to the DVD commentary, the basic idea (peasant village hiring samurai) is based on historical incident/-s in the time period (no details given, but c. 1580 or so). Six of the seven samurai are more or less based on real-life counterparts, Kikuchiyo was devised on-set because Kurosawa felt a comic figure fit Mifune better. CFLeon (talk) 08:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Upon re-checking the movie, although the commentary mentions the real event, no date is given. Seven Samurai takes place in C.E. 1587, and Gisaku ('Grandad') indicates the previous instance was when he was young, so probably around 1550. Also, although it's said that the six samurai are based on real people, only Kanbei's original is revealed. CFLeon (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Errors?

Michael Jeck's DVD commentary states that the only error in the film is the timing of gunshots when Gorebei is killed, but would 16th Century Japan be using iron horseshoes? Also, Jeck states that the appearance of the bandits is the first use of an over the horizon shot "of an alien horde", but it was not uncommon in Westerns of the '30s and '40s; in fact is used in "The Great Train Robbery" in 1903.CFLeon (talk) 10:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Translation issues

Many have said that it is debatable whether 七人の侍 (Shichinin no Samurai) translates into "The Seven Samurai" or "Seven Samurai". It is "Seven Samurai". There is no "the". Therefore, cite/footnote 1 should not exist or should be deleted.AndrewOne (talk) 14:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

You are incorrect on both counts. I am stunned that no one with actual knowledge of the language has jumped on this. The footnote, though incorrect (as I'm about to explain) is relevant to the misunderstanding.

As for the incorrect translation currently standing: definite article in Japanese is implied by the "no" after "Shichinin". An indefinite Seven Samurai is in Japanese "Shichinin Samurai". The number and the noun. So then the possessive "no" adds weight to the number; it tells you it's not just any seven samurai, it's the samurai of the seven - it's the seven samurai.

But I can't be bothered creating an account and explaining intermediate Japanese grammar to Wiki-know-it-alls over and over in order to actually get the article name changed, so if anyone discovers this note and is so inclined, thanks. 110.142.235.213 (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Samurai 7

Should not the Anime remake "Samurai 7" be mentioned and or referenced to? There is already a Wikipedia article about it.

Rm macrons from Toshiro

The macrons have gone on the Toshiro Mifune article already so the editor removing them from this article is correct, this is not vandalism. JoshuSasori (talk) 02:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Problem with image

There is a problem with this article's image. The Facebook automatically generated page from the article won't display the Seven Samurai poster (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Seven-Samurai/105564736143780?ref=profile), It's a shame as this is the only page for Seven Samurai on Facebook.

We are sorry that this is happening and it is hard to know why this is occurring. Unfortunately what happens with Facebook and its links isn't really Wikipedia's concern. MarnetteD | Talk 23:35, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Sources/Citation

Going through the page, myself and a few companions have noticed that some of the sources need to be updated as some no longer exist and others seem to be outdated (polls/recognitions from 2009-2012) which can now be updated to more recent polls.

Mentioning of Jidaijeki and adding to structural innovations

What do people think of mentioning "Jidaigeki" (a japanese period drama genre) to the page? It is often mentioned in writing and analysis of the film. There is a whole page dedicated to the genre which I could add to the page?

Also, although the structural innovations section has important information on structure should editing and the film's style be mentioned too? Perhaps as separate subheadings in the section.

MariaCabrera23 (talk) 16:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)