User talk:SchuminWeb/Archive 30

Retired

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It's hard to say goodbye to a community that I have been a part of for seven years. During my time as a contributor to Wikipedia, I have grown tremendously as a writer, and have added in many ways, large and small, to countless numbers of articles, and have participated in countless numbers of discussions. However, I have come to realize within the past year that I have reached both the limits of what I can accomplish within the Wikipedia community, and also the limits of my patience in interacting with other members of the Wikipedia community. Thus I feel that it is time for me to move on.

While I still believe in Wikipedia's mission to amass the sum of all human knowledge, I fear that the project may fail because the community will, over time, destroy itself due to what I perceive as constant infighting, the holding of long-term grudges by many users, and general rudeness and incivility on the part of many, which has an alienating effect on other users, both new and seasoned. As an administrator, I received more abuse than I would ever wish on anyone that is doing volunteer work, and this often extended beyond Wikipedia to my website, my Facebook, my Twitter, and my personal email, despite my best efforts to direct all Wikipedia-related inquiries back to Wikipedia. Because of this, I was never really able to escape from Wikipedia, even when using it for research, and it took a toll on me, turning what might otherwise have been an enjoyable activity into a chore, causing me to dread seeing the orange "You have new messages" bar come up, because it inevitably meant having to listen to more whining.

I soon found it increasingly difficult for me to justify to myself why I was still doing volunteer work for a project that I no longer found enjoyable. When I logged out of Wikipedia by choice and left it logged out, I soon came to realize that by not participating in Wikipedia, my stress levels went down, and I generally found myself to be much happier.

I believe that my best days are still ahead of me, but now it is time for me to forge my own path, endeavoring in new works and projects separate from those of the Wikipedia community. I wish all of you the best in your future endeavors, and perhaps our paths will cross again some day. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Never tamper with image names!

Hi SchuminWeb. Despite your six years of wiki-presence, you've made a beginner's error: Never tamper with image names, even if it's misspelled. At Saturn IB [1] your spell checking caused an image to be replaced by a red text [File:Saturn IB milkstool.jpg]. Please tidy up after yourself instead of letting others clean up your mess. --Necessary Evil (talk) 20:53, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, didn't notice I did that. Thanks for fixing and letting me know. SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:58, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

No hard feelings. --Necessary Evil (talk) 21:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Henry Cluney Picture

You appear to have deleted a picture that I took at a concert of Henry Cluney. There was apparently some question as to whether I was the copywrite holder. As I took the picture, I assume I am. I am therefor placing the picture back on the article. Jcuk (talk) 08:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Regarding September 24, 2005 anti-war protest edits

I went and looked it through, and the edits by Malbolge (talk · contribs) do make a point. The links were originally added by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs), and later converted to refs by same (and presumably updated by same). It seems like an obvious conflict of interest to have this site regarded as a reliable link, having been added by the author and, additionally, one that is very clearly a self-published personal website. Has the issue of this being used as a reliable source been determined previously? --Raijinili (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Couple of points here...

First of all, the link in question was added back in 2005, and Wikipedia's standards were different back then, so it is not necessarily fair to judge links that exist based on the modern standard, because our standards have become tighter over time. Thus skip the accusatory tone with me.

Otherwise, as far as Malbolge goes, their actions were related to the result at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old Man Murray (2nd nomination), specifically, when looked at as a whole, were very WP:POINTy. That's a matter of not letting someone get away with attacking specific editors. Outside of something that is obviously targeting a specific editor (note that another editor reverted same in some cases), I'm not concerned. I'm more concerned about people going after specific editors as revenge for deletion discussions. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I am not interested in being attached to whatever issues you have with other users on and off this site, so likewise, skip the curtness with me.

However, I am pointing out that there is the question of it being a reliable source now, not in 2005, since the links are still there, and listed as references. --Raijinili (talk) 02:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

As far as use as references go, by all means, kill it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey

I was just looking again at the April Fool's pranks from this year and came upon this link to a page you deleted per "housecleaning". Can we undelete and move it somewhere (the latter only if necessary), tagging with Template:humor in the process? CycloneGU (talk) 20:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I see where someone put "April Fool's" in a revision, but otherwise, there was no other humor included, the page was utilitarian otherwise, and you can't move a category (meaning I would have to delete it anyway). Do we really need to retain this? SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:42, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I only asked because it is linked to the page listing all of the pranks...but I think I see your point. I'm headed to bed now, let me look into this in the morning. CycloneGU (talk) 07:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

All right, I did notice now that it was set up as a category, and without actually making any changes peeked at a move page for another category and realized it would only move to another category template...if possible, I'd at least like the text to be preserved somewhere and I can link such in the text on the pranks page. For technical reasons, I can understand why the category itself was deleted. I presume categories can't be moved to user space, but how about putting the text from the deleted category page in userspace for now? If you're willing to undelete for a moment, I'll take a quick look and make an assessment (we can delete it again before the end of the day). CycloneGU (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Deleted logo

I see you deleted File:Solex Thermal Science Logo.jpg even though I had added a fully completed fair-use rationale, licence, and it was used appropriately in the infobox of the organisation's article. Was something changed that made to decide to delete it and that it no longer complied with NFCC? As far as I can determine it was all proper and should have been closed as a keep. ww2censor (talk) 03:25, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Please respond to this post. ww2censor (talk) 00:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for File:Solex Thermal Science Logo.jpg

An editor has asked for a deletion review of File:Solex Thermal Science Logo.jpg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ww2censor (talk) 16:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Incomplete FfD

You nominated File:Rose Island Marker.jpg a month ago, but apparently forgot to put the nomination on the FfD page. I've removed the template. You may renominate if you want. — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 19:03, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, please deal with the 12 files you tagged by AWB from 19:29 to 20:00 on 25 March. None of them have nominations, neither does File:Basil W Duke 2.JPG. — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 22:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

The 12 files were nominated individually and then condensed into a mass-nom. The other file does have a discussion, which I'm surprised you missed. If I am to "deal with" any of these, I'll just close them as delete and be done with it, but that would be improper because I'm also the nominator.

In any case, I am not going to be back at FFD or PUF for a while, because they are causing me too much stress. Therefore, if anything else may be incorrect (or not), fix it yourself - anyone can edit, after all. I really am staying clear of those two venues for a while. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

DC Meetup: May 7 @ Tenleytown Library

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I-95 Memorials; Maryland vs. Chesapeake House

Do you remember when we had a dispute over the location of a memorial along one of the two major service areas along the John F. Kennedy Memorial Highway (Maryland)? I eventually became convinced it was at the Chesapeake House, but you were believed it was at the Maryland House. Well, I now have a video proving I was right which I'd like to send you, and I also have a picture of the one at Maryland House which I haven't uploaded yet. -----DanTD (talk) 11:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Redirects vs. merges

The last one-hundred or so of your contributions have been laden with the edit summary, "Redirecting the title over to intended merge target to carry out AFD result. I'm guessing that if anything was worth merging, it most likely would have been done by now." I do not think that this is helpful at all to the encyclopedia, particularly when there is a talkpage notice on the target articles using {{afd-merge from}} that tell you to perform the merge if it hasn't been completed already. I think it's much healthier to assume the content hasn't been merged at all, check whether it has by looking for the content on the target article, and to at least try to perform it yourself. Save the attribution history and the article content. And speaking of attribution, you’ve forgot to document any related merges by using {{R from merge}} on the related redirects and/or use {{copied}} on the talkpages of the target articles to note the merges involved. You really should read Help:Merging more carefully to see what the process is all about. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

This is old stuff that I'm cleaning up, going through the backlog of old AFD merges (I'm not doing anything so determined after December 31, 2010, but much of it years old). This is stuff that has fallen through the cracks, and the material contains nothing that I can merge and still maintain verifiability. SchuminWeb (Talk) 07:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

So did you in fact not merge the content from Freiwilligen? It is a bit sad that, as the decision was to merge rather than delete, the decision does not seem to have been adhered to either in word or spirit. Chaosdruid (talk) 17:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Y Done - results at European non-Germans in the German armed forces during World War II Chaosdruid (talk) 17:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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Keith Critchlow article

Hi Ben. For the life of me, I don't understand why the Keith Critchlow article has been nominated by User:NuclearWarfare for deletion. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith Critchlow. I have no idea what the OTRS system is. Any ideas? Help? Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 17:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ben for your having a look at this. I can't see the original complaint ticket. Everything in the article is factual and publicly known. Dr. Critchlow is a significant figure in sacred architecture. I'm puzzled. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

(ec) It seems like this is the case of a notable subject believing that they can "opt out" of being covered on Wikipedia. No such provision exists. Some users may be given a right to vanish (note "may"), but notable subjects do not have a right to opt out of Wikipedia coverage. So the premise of the AFD seems a little flawed, and it will eventually be closed as a keep, either at the end of the designated discussion period, or sooner.

OTRS, meanwhile, is basically Wikipedia's customer-service department. It's where formal requests and messages come in, and volunteers attend to them. I don't deal with OTRS myself, but the initialism stands for Open-source Ticket Request System, the name of the software that runs it. It's most commonly used for registering permissions. See WP:OTRS. People who aren't OTRS volunteers can't see OTRS tickets, so I can't see it, either. SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:52, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Ben. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 18:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

History of Wyandanch

You were the one who redirected the article a couple weeks ago per the outcome of it's AfD. The apparent POV-warrior IP who thinks he owns the article reverted you shortly afterwards. I have restored the redirect (this article is a favorite target of a serial vandal I'm tracking), but you might want to keep an eye on it as well (or maybe even protect it?) since my having time to edit is rather intermittent. --Sable232 (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I'll keep an eye out for it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 22:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

The IP has reverted again, so I have restored the redirect once more and given him a level-4 warning. --Sable232 (talk) 14:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I took another look at it all, and considering the amount of editing that the IP did and their unwillingness to work on the target article instead, I'm inclined to leave the text in there next time they revert and put it through another AFD in hopes of getting a delete out of it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Metrorail

Thanks for helping to source alternative names...helps quash everyone including his/her favorite. I don't have that ref handy--does "unofficial" mean "lots of people call it that but WMATA doesn't", or "it's often called that as a nickname even in WMATA or other formal documents"? DMacks (talk) 03:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The latter. According to Schrag, the term "Metrorail" was coined by The Washington Post, and was never officially adopted by WMATA as a name for the rail system, though it has shown up in official documents. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Great--sounds consistent with what I see on their publications. DMacks (talk) 03:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

File:GregTownsend2008.jpg

Hello. It appears that you deleted a photo I uploaded because you were unaware of the copyright status of the photo. You left me a message on my userpage back in February, but I didn't receive this message until today. This photo is my copyright, which I am happy to share to all on wikipedia. I took the photo with my camera, and I uploaded the photo. So if you could please revert the deletion (as I can't figure out how to do that) and re-post onto the Greg Townsend page, that would be much appreciated. Thanks

-- LinkRacer (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edit

if you really object to this edit (which you recently reverted) you may want to consider changing the wording. Although it is technically accurate that the matter is discussed a few bullet points down, the wording of the bullet point which I changed was previously misleading. It's simply not accurate to state that "Non-administrators should not close "delete" decisions at all". The point of a bulleted list is that each item stands on its own—if this were not the case, it would be more appropriate to use prose. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 01:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Stop deleting stuff!

Honestly, for an obese guy in a tie-dyed t-shirt you sure are pedantic! Not everyone is on Wikipedia 24/7. You can't just copy/paste messages onto user talk pages then delete their images and work without giving them right to reply! Tristanb (talk) 01:54, 20 May 2011 (UTC)