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Administrative divison structure of Myanmar/Burma

I know that Myanmar/Burma is subdivided into the following:

• Division or State (14)

• District (64)

• Township (325)

My doubt is which subdivision goes after the Township, the city or town, the ward, the village-tract/group, or the village? jlog3000 (talk) 17:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

It's ward/village tract after the township.Hybernator (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Charles Evans Hughes House

I just tagged the article with your project. It's the ambassador's residence in Washington, D.C. The actual embassy (looks like someone found my flickr pix) is located at 2300 S Street, NW (one block north). If someone writes an article about the embassy, be sure to include the fact it was once the home of Herbert Hoover, among others. APK thinks he's ready for his closeup 03:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Anti-British sentiment

Hi, would anyone knowledgeable on Burmese history be able to add anything on Anti-British sentiment? Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Anti-British sentiment was strong particularly among the Burmans throughout the British colonial period for political, cultural and economic reasons. (In some quarters, especially amongst the upper echelons of Burmese military, the country's ills are still conveniently assigned to the evils of colonialism.)

For the minority ethnic groups, it's less clear cut. Some of the ethnic groups like the hill Karens, Kachins or Chins certainly fared better under the British tried-and-true divide-and-conquer policy, having gained a degree of prominence hitherto unavailable to them. But others--especially the majority Buddhist groups like the Arakanese, Mons, Shans and lowland Karens--were turned off by the British disrespect and disregard for the (collective) Burmese culture. (E.g., the British and foreigners wearing shoes on Buddhist temples and pagodas.) It's no accident that YMBA (the Buddhist version of YMCA)--the first quasi-political organization in the colonial era--was founded by an Arakanese (Rakhine). Many noted anti-colonialists were ethnics, including so-called foreigners, the Indians and the Chinese. The Burmese were inspired by the Indian independence movement, and Indian intellectuals were instrumental in bringing leftist ideas to Burmese students who would later lead the independence movement. Many of ethnic Chinese descent joined the army to fight the British, and of course some rose to the very highest levels of the Burmese military and politics.

As far as pure anti-British sentiment, as opposed to anti-colonialism, I don't believe it was ever an ethnic/racial strain against the British. If anything, it was the Indians, who immigrated en masse in search of economic opportunity, that came to be viewed in a very negative light in Burmese eyes. Indians were looked up to and a source of intellectual inspiration until the British colonial era. Genius of British divide-and-conquer policy!

Certainly, anti-British sentiment doesn't exist amongst most Burmese today. Of course, many Burmese, including myself, still view the British colonial period as an unqualified disaster. But most Burmese can and do understand the difference between the British people and colonialism. (Watching English Premier League Football is very much part of Burmese culture nowadays.) The same is true of the Japanese. The 3-year Japanese rule is remembered with horror but the Japanese people are very much loved and respected.Hybernator (talk) 16:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Naming convention for Burmese geographical names

A discussion has started about the lack of a clear guideline on Burmese geographical names here. Any input is welcome. Pim Rijkee (talk) 20:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Chan Htoon

I started a stub, please have a look and fill in where you can. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 04:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Kokang incident

I started an article on the unfolding Kokang incident and listed it (for now, at least) on In the news on the main page. If there is anyone here who is familiar with Myanmar issues and willing to monitor the article and help ensure accuracy and NPOV, it would be much appreciated. (When I put July 2009 Urumqi riots on the main page a month and a half ago, I was pretty much up around the clock trying to maintain the article... unfortunately, I know very little about Myanmar so I won't be able to contribute to this article in the same way.) rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

NOTICE. Request For Comment: Changes to Naming policies which may affect WikiProject naming conventions.

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This WikiProject is being notified since it operates such a specific naming convention. Editors are invited to comment on the proposed change at this location. Xandar 01:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The above "notification" is a grossly biased misrepresentation of the changes under discussion. The old version of the naming conventions policy tried to lay down binding rules; we don't work that way, so it was necessary also to make explicit exceptions. The new version articulates principles, and allows for consensus to establish how they should be applied. Thus there is no longer any need for exceptions. In fact, making exceptions is nonsense, since there are no rules to make exceptions to. These changes are good for specific conventions. Xandar is trying to induce moral panic in those who stand to gain the most from this. Xandar is only opposed to the new version because he thinks the wording, not the general thrust, weakens his position in a dispute unrelated to this RfC. Don't be fooled. Hesperian 02:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Check

Could somebody from here please fact-check this section for me? Thanks Night w (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Myanmar Radio and Television and related articles

Hello. Can someone with more expertise in with Myanmar/Burma and Thailand television take a look at Myanmar Radio and Television, Midnight Radio and Television, MRTV, and related articles, along with the contributions of User:Tw3435 and User:125.25.76.202? I believe a lot of it is vandalism, but there may be some corret stuff in there as well, and it could be a really big misunderstanding... thanks! -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 12:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

New template for Burmese pronunciation

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rename project

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved, unopposed.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Myanmar (Burma) → Wikipedia:WikiProject Burma (Myanmar) — Original name of the WikiProject four years ago, reflects name of topic article in en:wp. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 18:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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Region vs. Division

I notice that changes have been made in a number of articles from Division to Region for the Burman provinces of Burma/Myanmar. They cite a 20 August 2010 edict in Burmese. Has anyone seen an English language source? I noticed that editors changed the Template:Sagaing Division heading to Sagaing Region and then back again to Sagaing Division. What is the status of the alleged change from Division to Region? Is there a discussion somewhere? --Bejnar (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not alleged. The latest constitution promulgates the name change, as well as adding a few sub-divisions of self-administered zones for some ethnic peoples. Chinese Xinhua News Agency has already begun using the new term. Not sure if other media outlets have caught up to it yet. Hybernator (talk) 22:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm certain that the English names have changed as well. A cursory Google search [1] on the English language state media (New Light of Myanmar for instance) shows that any news articles written after August 20 no longer use "division." I know that most other English language media in Burma (Weekly News, Myanmar Times [2]) have also adopted these name changes.--Hintha(t) 22:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Sagaing/Mandalay boundary - Ngazun Township

The official township map here has Ngazun Township in Mandalay Region, which is also what we currently have in the English Wikipedia. However older British sources such as the Imperial gazetteer of India here have it in Sagaing, as currently does Maplandia here. The 1983 population census, Volumes 13-16‎ - Page 3, listed it as Sagaing. In 1999 the Institut für Asienkunde (Hamburg, Germany) listed it as being in Sagaing. However, by 2000, the BBC here is listing it as in Mandalay Division. Other recent maps, such as "Map of Sagaing Division", show it as part of Mandalay Division. Can anyone find, or does anyone know, when exactly the change in boundary between Sagaing and Mandalay took place, and by what edict? --Bejnar (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Rangoon Gymkhana cricket team

Hi there, just visiting from WP:CRIC! Now, I've created the article for Rangoon Gymkhana cricket team, which played a single first-class cricket match against the Marylebone Cricket Club in the 1926/27 season. I'm having trouble expanding information on the Rangoon Gymkhana, so guessed that maybe someone over at this project might have knowledge on the subject. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 21:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Karen Human Rights Group

Hi, I am a student at Georgetown University. I'm partnering with the Wikipedia Public Policy Institute. I'm currently working on a project about the Karen Human Rights Group. I will need some assistance for the entry. Is this a good place to start? Thank you. This is a link to my entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jysg23/KHRG —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jysg23 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Indeed it is, I will try to help.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:51, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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Place name disambiguation

When it is necessary to disambiguate Burmese place names at the township level, which of two forms should be preferred: "Kontha, Ayadaw Township" or "Kontha, Ayadaw"? The shorter form might be preferred because it is short, but the longer one might be preferred because it avoids confusion with similarly named districts, and district disambiguation. For example with "Kontha" there are eight occurrences in Sagaing Region:

• Kontha, Katha Township, Katha District, 24° 17' N 096° 32' E
• Kontha, Mawlaik Township, Mawlaik District, 23° 35' N 094° 30' E
• Kontha, Kale Township, Kale District, 23° 29' N 094° 06' E
• Kontha, Ye-U Township, Shwebo District, 22° 48' N 095° 12' E
• Kôntha, Kani Township, Monywa District, 22° 47' N 094° 43' E
• Kontha, Tabayin Township, Monywa District, 22° 31' N 095° 29' E
• Kontha, Ayadaw Township, Monywa District, 22° 22' N 095° 25' E
• Kontha, Budalin Township, Monywa District, 22° 19' N 095° 12' E

The first first four can be distinguished at the district level. However, in Monywa District there are four instances of "Kontha" so they need to be distinguished at the township level. Are there other pro and cons? --Bejnar (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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