Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/4.23.83.100

User:4.23.83.100

Suspected sock puppeteer

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Suspected sock puppets

• Objectiveye (talk⁺ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)

Report submission by

• Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

• Although Objectiveye rarely edits wikipedia, when he appears, 4.23.83.100 is almost always around him/her (like this). Objectiveye usually supports 4.23.83.100's edit. To be accurate, Objectiveye reverts others' edits to 4.23.83.100's edit or the other way around.

Japan1
4.23.83.100[1]
Objectiveye [2]

Japan2 4.23.83.100[3]
Objectiveye[4]

Korean swordsmanship 4.23.83.100[5]
Objectiveye[6]

Kumdo 4.23.83.100[7]
Objectiveye[8]

At talk:Kumdo, Objectiveye explains about 4.23.83.100's edit, calling 4.23.83.100 "the writer"[9], as if s/he knew what "the writer" was thinking. It seems to me like Objectiveye is pretending to be a differnt person in order to show that there's someone supporting 4.23.83.100.

One of the biggest reasons I suspected Objectiveye to be a sockpuppet of 4.23.83.100 is these two edits [10] and [11]. Objective eye states "You can't just leave out the Editing Agency" and 4.23.83.100 states "The Editing Agency by Japan is a part of Asian history, you can't just leave that out" (see the Edit summary). They are too similar expressions.

Objective suddenly states something about Emperor Kammu, Zen, rice cultivation, 16th century pottery, Buddhism, Sumo, sword-making, introduction of Chinese writing system for some reason and says "it all has to mention Korea" and that "they all have arguements like this page"[12][13] although s/he has never edited any of them. But actually, 4.23.83.100 has edited them ( Emperor Kammu[14][15][16], Zen[17][18], 16th century pottery[19], Buddhism [20], Sumo[21][22], Chinese writing system[23][24][25][26][27]). If Objevtiveye were not the same person as 4.23.83.100, how should he have known there were such arguments?

What Objectiveye says and does shows that s/he is the same person as 4.23.83.100. S/he pretended to be a different person in order to show that there's someone supporting 4.23.83.100[28] as I stated above. This must be against the rules. Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I have noticed similarities in Objectiveye's and 4.23.83.100's writing habits. In the diffs provided by Michael Friedrich above, and a few from a quick perusal of the two users' contributions, the two consistently misspell:

• there as their (Objectiveye; first paragraph, fifth line, last word.) (4.23.83.100; second red paragraph)

• you're as your (Objectiveye; second paragraph) (Also Objectiveye) (4.23.83.100)

• a lot as alot (Objectiveye, twice in the first paragraph) (Also Objectiveye; third paragraph from the bottom) (4.23.83.100)

• argument as arguement (Objectiveye; first paragraph) (4.23.83.100; eighth red line from the bottom)

One thing that really clinches it for me is that both of them talk about things they remember from their East Asian Studies courses (and they both spell it "east Asian studies courses"): Objectiveye 4.23.83.100

I think that these two users are either sockpuppet/sockpuppeteer or someone who very, very frequently forgets to log in. Either way, they look to me like the same person. SunDragon34 (talk) 08:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• If possible, I'd like to request IP check. But I'm sure that they are the same person even if they are using different IPs.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• If these two are the same person, and I am fairly certain that they are, This user may just be frequently forgetting to log in. The only things that trouble me are the seemingly deceptive behavior mentioned my Michael Friedrich above and the username "Objectiveye". I don't see how this user can refer to him/herself as "the writer" without being up to something. We should ask the user about that. I think that s/he can solve the problem by editing only as Objectiveye. SunDragon34 (talk) 08:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

• I don't think so because s/he is almost always edit as 4.23.83.100[29]. Objectiveye rarely appears[30]. This cannot be explained by saying "he often forgets to log in." S/he's using Objectiveye as a sock puppet.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 19:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

• Agreed. Has the user been contacted yet about this case? I can think of two different options we could give him/her. Either s/he uses the current account, Objectiveye, as his/her main account and stops acting like they are two different people, or s/he can start a clean account and we can block Objectiveye. Does that sound right? (This is my first sock puppet case and I'm not familiar with the usual procedure to deal with this kind of situation.) SunDragon34 (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• i think this report is personal attack. Condemned someone as a sock puppet although there's no evidence[31] i am not involved with Objectiveye. do not mistake. i think reporter want terminate this user, because he and Objectiveye engaged edit war. Manacpowers (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Conclusions

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