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Thanks. PamD

Ah!

A google search of Wikipedia using "Nottingham University" and "rambling" got me here. If you're going to be editing in these parts, you should probably put a few (or many) (your choice!) words on your User: page, so that it doesn't appear as a red link when you edit something, and so that people who have something to say about your edits will have some idea of who they're dealing with. --GuillaumeTell 01:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion - I hadn't twigged the "red link" point. Have now added a few words to create my User: page. --User:PamD 21:57, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The University of Nottingham Hillwalking and Rambling Society

The random link led me there - I often look around when I'm otherwise not busy, cleaning up, tagging articles and general housekeeping. The subject of notability is often contentious - In this case, there is nothing in the article that establishes what makes the subject worthy of inclusion. The bar for notability is not particularly high - A few mentions in even local press is often adequate. The first pillar of Wikipedia is a good place. And welcome :) - Tiswas^(t/c) 22:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Robin Hood, West Yorkshire

Thanks for setting up the page. 29 May 2007

Walking Stewart

Thanks for your kind message and for going to the trouble of creating the page in the first place! He's so interesting, I couldn't help adding what I know ... Thanks so much again! --Charleys2004 18:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Rothwell, West Yorkshire

I'm happy to leave the page as it is, but could you please explain why my edit wasn't constructive. I'm not disputing this, but just for future edits, so I know not to go wrong. Thanks Pam. 80.44.211.219 08:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

PamD's reply: I can't see my comment on your user page at address you're using today (if you're going to edit regularly it's easier all round if you register, rather than use an IP address). Were you perhaps the editor who changed Rothwell from "town" to "district", removed three paragraphs (Domesday book, market, band), and reverted to older less linked text about Priestley and the college, as 80.44.161.231 on 9 June at 19:44? Whether Rothwell is a town or not seems to be a matter on which there are different views, but it didn't seem helpful to remove all that other information - perhaps it was an editing accident? PamD 23:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's me. The removal of three paragraphs was accidental, and I didn't realise I'd done it until you let me know on your above edit, and so I checked the Rothwell history page. I do apologise. However, I think you are right about the difference of views as to wether Rothwell is a town or a district. I was to belive that over time, Rothwell had become a district of the main city, rather than a town in the metropolitan borough, but if this is not the case, then I do apologise, and feel free to leave the article with it being stated a town. Thanks again. 80.44.118.181 18:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Titus Salt reference

Hi Pam. Thank you for adding a reference to the bottom of the Titus Salt article, but could you please use the current WP:CITE format with ref tags? If it isn't actually being used to cite any of the article text then we are better putting this into a "Further reading" section. Burntsauce 18:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

PamD's reply:I didn't write the main article, so don't know whether the DNB article is source for much of it or not - though it certainly supports the ">100,000 people lining streets at funeral". I've put the ref into format, I think. Not sure how many specific references are needed from the body of the article, if any. PamD 18:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Striking your vote

Hello PamD,

Thank you for your interest in the Wikimedia Board Election. The Election Committee regretfully informs you that your previous vote was received in error and will be struck according to the election rules, described below.

The Election Committee regretfully announces today that we will have to remove approximately 220 votes submitted. These votes were cast by people not entitled to vote. The election rules state that users must have at least 400 edits by June 1 to be eligible to vote.

The voter lists we sent to Software in the Public Interest (our third party election partner) initially were wrong, and one of your account was eventually included to our initial list. There was a bug in the edit counting program and the sent list contained every account with 201 or more edits, instead of 400 or more edits. So large numbers of people were qualified according to the software who shouldn't be. The bug has been fixed and an amended list was sent to SPI already.

Our first (and wrong) list contains 80,458 accounts as qualified. The proper number of qualified voters in the SPI list is now 52,750. As of the morning of July 4 (UTC), there are 2,773 unique voters and 220 people, including you, have voted who are not qualified based upon this identified error.

In accordance with voting regulations the Election Committee will strike those approximately 220 votes due to lack of voting eligibility. The list of struck votes is available at https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/List_of_struck_votes.

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Leeds Parish Church

No problem. It's always a good idea to press the Preview button and check the blue links that you've created/amended before saving, though. A, aka GuillaumeTell 20:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

1a page

Hi Pam—Thanks for your comments. Can't see where the formatting is large in the 1a article. Tony 11:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Pam, but looks fine to me. I'll ask someone else to look. Tony 15:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Pam—thanks for pointing out my blooper, and for the Guardian link, which I've posted here. I used to subscribe to the Guardian Weekly, but my Internet addiction has crowded that out! Tony 11:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Leeds Town Hall

There was a rather sprawling article about Town Hall which could not have been all copyright violation...I wrote a bit myself. As far as I remember, someone removed it and put in a more compact text which was apparently all borrowed.

I am glad you have written about the piano competition, by the way. --Alan 19:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The version of the article I deleted was marked and verified as a nearly word-for-word copy of http://www.leedscivictrust.org.uk/townhall.htm . So it was deleted. --w^{L<speak·check>} 00:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I am no great expert on editorial issues, but I think it would have been better to go back to a previous version of the article, which would have included good material, rather than simply delete the offending version. --Alan 06:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The correct action would have been to restore the version before the copyvio and delete all revisions after that, while examining the revisions to try and rescue good content. Total deletion was inappropriate. The deleting admin should have investigated further and discovered all this. Carcharoth 10:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. If you look at Talk:Leeds Town Hall#Timeline_of_Leeds_Town_Hall_article you can see the results of a bit of archaeological digging through the history! PamD 13:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Some good detective work there! Carcharoth 14:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

1a page

Thanks for your correction, Pam. It's the redundancy exercises that are the most fertile ground for error-hunters! Tony 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

New version of proposed text on spacing at MOSNUM

Pam—Please reconsider your comment, if necessary: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Spacing. Tony 15:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Abbey Grange

Now that you've renamed it to what I believe is the best name, I decided to redirect. The reason for the confusion with the merge tags was that I didn't know which name was best. Englishrose 12:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Mount St Mary's

Hi Pam. I see you have been tidying schools info in Leeds, and you were asking user "yourewhom?" about the entry for Mount SS Mary & Micheal's (sic) Catholic College. I believe you are right to question the article title and, AFAICS, it is a poorly researched and misleading article. I suspect that the body is a cut-and-paste of some related website and is likely to be a wp:copyvio - altho I've not checked this out.

Here is some background:

In October 2003 it was agreed that St Michael’s Catholic College, a school of 500 pupils, would close and be 'acquired' by Mount St Mary’s High. Accordingly at the end of August 2005 St Michael’s closed and pupils and staff became part of Mount St Mary’s which will continue to operate on the split East/West sites until 2008 after which time it will operate on the East site only. http://dioceseofleeds.org.uk/cares/docs/reports/MtStM%20Final%20Report.doc

Mount St Mary's High School are utilising the old St Michael's site to accommodate the additional pupils during the transition period, following the closure of St Michael's in 2005. http://www.educationleeds.co.uk/documents/download.aspx?fid=17708

HTH RichardEll 09:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

If the contents are wrong, then I appologise, I was informed at Mass held at the Cathedral last Sunday that the two Schools had become one, and the proposed name of the new school was this.

yourwhom 18.06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Cardinal Heenan Catholic High School (Leeds)

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Oldest sitting member

If you are interested in adding infoboxes for the oldest sitting member of the House of Commons, I have a list at User:Warofdreams/Data#Oldest sitting MP. Warofdreams talk 14:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

3-way marginals

Since 1945, the closest 3-way marginals have been... Shows the 3rd placed candidates share, and the gap between 3rd and 1st... I am pretty sure about the first 9, there may be other high shares below 30% which I have overlooked...

1 Caithness and Sutherland, 1945 33.1, 0.37

2 Lincoln, 1974(F) 31.99, 3.56

3 Huddersfield, West, 1964 31.54, 4.24

4 Stockton, South, 1987 31.26, 3.75

5 West Tyrone, 1997 30.86, 3.72

6 Caernarvon District of Burghs, 1945 30.6, 2.32

7 Colchester, 1997 30.54, 3.84

8 Dunbartonshire, East, 1974(O) 30.35, 0.86

9 Birmingham, Yardley, 1992 30.21, 4.65

... (maybe others below 30%)

10 Clwyd, Wrexham, 1983 29.71, 4.56

11 Belfast, East, 1979 29.55, 1.82

12 Strathclyde, Renfrew West and Inverclyde, 1983 29.04, 3.66

13 Coventry, South East, 1992 28.88, 3.70

14 Dyfed, Carmarthen, 1983 27.05, 4.53

Caithness and Sutherland will take some beating, only 61 votes between 1st and 3rd place, all three candidates on 33%, the last time a mainland party leader lost his seat (Sir Archibald Sinclair, Liberal leader came third) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RodCrosby (talk • contribs) 20:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I see RodCrosby has done a great job and beaten me to it! Warofdreams talk 17:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Chantrell

Thanks. I've added a redirect from R D Chantrell (maybe there should be ones from R. D. Chantrell and Robert D Chantrell too). The reason that I used the Robert Dennis version was that that's how he appears in Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Hotlist of Art & Architecture/C, thus turning the link blue.

I'm going to have a trawl through Pevsner for more buildings, but I can't be bothered to insert him into the pages for the various places where he built churches - especially as only one of their WP articles (so far) actually mentions the church. Be my guest if you want to do that. --GuillaumeTell 18:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

TLA, Three letter acronym and Talk:Three letter acronym

Done! At your convenience, could you do a "sanity check" on it for me please? (There is no hurry.)

(By-the-way: Initially I "moved" TLA (disambiguation) to TLA. I wasn't completely comfortable with that, so I "moved" it back, and now TLA redirects to TLA (disambiguation).)

Cheers, Pdfpdf 12:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply on Talk:Three letter acronym#TLA Pdfpdf 10:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Well yes, but ... What about the WP "infrastructure" being geared up for "TLA (disambiguation)"? A "move" won't handle that. i.e. "TLA" will not match searches for "TLA (disambiguation)", which is what caused me to make the change in the first place. Pdfpdf 12:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, well! It all seems to have happened! (The system works!!) Well done! Pdfpdf 13:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I have altered the wording on the various talk files, to discourage people from having current discussions on obsolete pages.
Good idea.
I hope you don't mind me changing your wording!
No, I don't mind.
Pdfpdf 12:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sheffield Uni userbox

That's all sorted now, managed to change the size of the picture so the box is the same height as the others, thanks for letting me know about the problem. Simon KHFC 17:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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re: User 86.149.191.219

Hi, I apologise if they are not, but BT IP addresses all day and yesterday have been advertising charity events by placing text on articles that may be irrelevant to that information. Most of the users' contributions have been vandalism or spam or advertising. Sorry if I was being too harsh. Thebestkiano 12:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Be advised

Your tfd nom caused this yelp! Next time, use subst so the link goes to the tfd page, and in such a template, put it in the title box by hook or crook! Best regards // FrankB 02:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

replied at User talk:Fabartus. PamD 12:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC) (Now copied below by FrankB)

Thanks for alerting me. Cryptic has sorted out the template, and I've responded thus at WP:VPT -

"Sorry about that. The instructions on Template:Tfd are quite clear but a useful sentence "This code will work as is; there is no need to replace PAGENAME with the actual page name." wasn't included in the instructions I was following on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion, and I needed that clarification! I've added it there now, to avoid anyone else making the same mistake. My thanks to Cryptic for sorting it out. PamD 07:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)"

Thanks, but the apology is unneeded. Think the thing you missed was the example showing:

{{tfd|{{subst:pagename}}}} call format. It used to be such templates squealed like stuck pigs in both preview and page saved modes if and when subst wasn't used, but perhaps that logic messed up something else and so someone removed it over the summer. I'll check on that.

This kind of thing is inevitable in a tech based shared resources project from time to time, so your apology is gracious. I don't know for a fact it was "evincing" badly on pages other than Leipzig... just that I had to hunt hard for what was under discussion, and if someone was unfamiliar with templates, they would have been lost the way it was located there. (Checks OK now!) Cheers! // FrankB 15:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Leeds Country Way

Well, your concerns over my decision are certainly valid. As for your version with sections, I do like it better personally. I don't see other glaring mistakes, so I'd suggest that you re-submit it to DYK. It's very backlogged, so my decision was probably hasty. So just re-submit it, upon doing that I'll tag it as second opinion requested, so that someone will look at it relatively quickly. Wizardman 18:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all the hard work on getting this one to GA status. It took some time but got there in the end. Keith D 09:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Your reversion on TLA

You reverted my edit on TLA claiming it had "removed useful content". Could you please explain why you feel redlinked articles on a disambiguation page is useful? Thank You. B1atv 05:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

As you have responded on my talk page I have responded there, to keep the conversation in one place. B1atv 07:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

MLibA

As a fellow librarian, i would like to support articles on library related topics when possible, but i cannot yet see how to do so here. There is general agreement that state branches or affiliates of associations are not notable, The MLA is probably not technically a branch of the ALA--I never could figure out the structure of that particularly labyrinthine organisation, but in effect it can reasonably be treated as such unless there is some reason otherwise. So what does the MLA do on its own, besides its newsletter? Have there been discussions of it in general library periodicals? That's the sort of thing that's needed. DGG (talk) 10:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

there is no reason why an article cannot be re-created if material is found. But I'm a little skeptical it will be--I do not think the public activities of most US state library associations are notable in an encyclopedic way. But UK Librarianship is very weakly covered in WP, and on a national basis the organisation are undoubtedly notable.--why don't you try some of that. I also dont think we have articles on the UK library schools.DGG (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Multiple Sclerosis organizations

Hi - My edit was one of a series to revert spamming (see Special:Contributions/80.169.79.66). If you think the links belong in the article, feel free to add them back :-) -SCEhardT 18:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

TLA et alia

Thanks for keeping a close eye on TLA et al; you are doing a sterling job, and doing it with much more patience, politeness, tolerance and skill than I could ever summon! Well done. Pdfpdf 05:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Emmaville

Hey, great start on the article on Emmaville, New South Wales. Another one to take off the list! Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 21:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Category

Hello PamD. Just discussing your recent creation of a cat here: Wikipedia:New_Zealand_Wikipedians'_notice_board#Category:Hills_of_New_Zealand. You might comment if you like. Cheers. Ingolfson 20:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi PamD - what made you choose to revert your choice on One Tree Hill? Regards. Ingolfson 08:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

See reply on the above page. (I thought I'd left a message there before, but must have moved on after hitting "Show Preview" and before actually saving it: easily done!). PamD 08:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

A58 road etc

Thanks for your msg. I have replied on my talk page, at User talk:BrownHairedGirl#references_for_roads. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Stub sorting

Thanks for the message. Note that the theatre stubs do not include play or musical stubs, or else there would be thousands more stubs there. The musical-theat-stub is correct for all musicals, and they're pretty much all there now. Several of the ones that originally were sorted as euro-theat-stub were my fault when I was new, so you have alerted me to my old mistake. Thanks, and best regards, -- Ssilvers 17:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Epsom

I put the citation tag because I didn't have time to check your comment. Usually I check the facts that people put up but I didn't have time. I've now followed your link. Yes there is a playhouse and it opened in 1984. Unfortunately your link goes to an advert rather than the about us page with the opening date. Strangely both sites have the same link so I don't know how to fix that for you. It would be better if it went to the correct page rather than spam. [Epsom Play house]. regards SuzanneKn (talk) 17:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

South West Coast Path

Thanks for all your hard work on the South West Coast Path rewrite! Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Geof, and thanks for your work on it too. It's looking good. I've just added a bit more about transport, and have also made an article for the SWCPA (sorting out the links from the path article to it). I think the article perhaps needs a bit more about walking the path, record times, etc, and a few statistics - somewhere I've got or have seen a list of how many stiles, gates etc! Plus which is the highest point? I think Great Hangman near Combe Martin, but can't find a source (it should go in the infobox). Plenty still to do. But then... are we aiming for GA? FA? Worth at least GA I should think, with a bit more polishing! PamD (talk) 20:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Thurrock Services (or services even!)

I wondered why they were redlinked! Thanks! Sunil060902 (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

cool green thingy

Hi, I had the same spacing problem, thanks for fixing it. I also stole, borrowed, recycled your date thingy :) You know I never noticed the + and I've been a wikipedian close to a year now. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving. VartanM (talk) 00:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

South West Coast Path

Hi Pam, thanks for your message. I've replied on my talk page, by giving a few pointers as to what can be taken at face value and what could perhaps be verified. It's not intended to be a check list, but if you choose to use it as one, thats OK by me. I hope it helps. I think that its a good article, certainly worth the B class that I gave it, but for a B class article most of the sections are unreferenced - it would probably not make a GA at present.Pyrotec (talk) 22:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Batley Hall

Hello. I was very interested to read your small addition to Upper Batley with reference to The 17th century banqueting hall in the grounds of Batley Old Hall. I am not sure which building you mean. I suspect you mean the brick built building that has been restored and extended? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Countarthurstrong (talk • contribs) 20:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I got my information from the Images of England database, to which I made a link. If it's wrong, please correct it. The OS grid ref in the IoE entry might help identify which building it is, if the description doesn't. I can't now remember what led me to Upper Batley in the first place! PamD (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You don't know how impressed I am that you have corrected my spelling! Researched the info from THe History Of Batley 1800 to 1976 written by Malcolm Haigh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Countarthurstrong (talk • contribs) 19:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Williams Wollaston

Thanks for that, I wasn't aware of that convention (oops, I should study stuff a bit closer maybe!) That might be the easiest way to distinguish them though. I'm aware that there is already a William Wollaston page, (seems to have been a popular name!) Maybe when I've done both Ips MPs I'll move that one and make it a disambig.... As for my interest in them, I lived there for 25 years...

ttfn Jcuk (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I've now done a dab page, leaving the philosopher with the unmodified name, and tidied various hatnotes. In the process I find there are two Francis Ws only distinguished by birthdates... but I'm not going to try and sort them out, as a father and son, both FRS, with very little info about them! I guess sometimes it's the only option as a last resort. PamD (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I've had a go at Francis....called Father FW (Scientist), son FW (Priest and Astronomer) and left grandson well alone!! Thanks for pointing out the dates in that box, sorted. Jcuk (talk) 10:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

There was a typo in one of the Wollastons in the dab page, and I think the convention is that what you see on the dab page is the article title, so I've tweaked it around a bit. Hope you're happy with it. PamD (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Checking on "what links here" for the dab page it seemed that the grandson was the most interesting of them! Have created a stub for Francis John Hyde Wollaston, and dabbed a couple of links to him. PamD (talk) 14:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

UK National Trails

Thanks for your note about these. I am putting in info boxes in the Category:Long-distance footpaths in the United Kingdom and I won't therefore put in UK national trails in them all. Glad you were pleased with the Fen Rivers Way, it was a surprise to see it duplicated and very easy to sort out. As a retired librarian you are certainly carrying on doing a lot of excellent work SuzanneKn (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hugh Seat

Thanks for some "face washing" of my recent article on Hugh Seat - I'm gradually getting trained in Wiki-ways! OldFaw (talk) 22:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

William Beckett

Just a quick note to say that this page is no longer protected. Have at it.  :-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:SMRTlogo.jpg

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I didn't realise I needed to put the info in a formal "rationale" section, thought I'd included all the relevant facts in the "summary". I hope I've now fulfilled the requirements. PamD 15:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fen Rivers Way

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Good edit work on Fen Rivers WaySuzanneKn (talk) 21:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, Thanks! My very first barnstar. PamD (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

TLA

OK. I'll stop "helping" and leave it to you to sort out. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Pdf: Sorry if my edit summary was a bit brusque - just that italic "hatnotes" ought to be to help the reader find where the heading they've just typed is actually to be found, and no-one is going to hit the "Three letter acronym" page by typing "TLA"! But I quite agree that there should be links to the dab page from the acronym Cheers, PamD 14:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

{{formatnum}}

Just a note to let you know that having considered the points you made on the [[Yorkshire Museum Gardens}} talk page I have now come round to your way of thinking about the {{formatnum}} template. I don't know of any English speaking nation that doesn't use decimal points and commas in the way that we do, so its only use, as you said, is to format the numerical output from other templates. Thanks for making me think about that. :) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

IP vandal

Thanks for your message. In this instance, someone at the IP address made two vandalism edits at about 9:30 UTC and then stopped even before you warned and reported them at about 10:00 UTC. Thereafter, there were no further edits. As blocks are preventative rather than punitive, and the vandal was no longer active, there was no need to block the IP at 11:05 UTC when I looked at the report, and so I removed it. As for the previous warnings, there is no guarantee that the person who made those previous edits was the same person who made the edit today: in fact, as the IP is a "BT Broadband" one, it's more than likely that the IP had been reallocated. See Wikipedia:Guide to administrator intervention against vandalism for more information. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 11:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For your terrific work disanbigating. . . disbigamuat. . . ambedis. . . making dab pages, Quadell awards you this nifty barnstar!

P.S. Have you ever given any thought to becoming an admin? Would you like me to nominate you? I think you'd be great at it, and we need more librarians with mops (and flamethrowers) around these parts. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 17:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the barnstar! I've only today found the Names disambiguation project, and it's rather fun... and I've allowed myself to keep putting off what I ought to have been doing today! As for admin... well, thanks but no thanks. I spend too much of my life on WikiPedia as it is, must try and kick the habit and get on with more real life, so becoming an admin would not be a Good Thing for me. But it's kind of you to suggest it! PamD (talk) 17:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah well, it's our loss. But if you ever consider changing your mind, drop me a line! – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

One more thing. A long time ago, I'd asked here if there were changes that would have made the list easier to use. I have another batch of dab-needed names for when this first batch is done, but I'd like to make it as easy for our disambiguators as possible. So if you have suggestions, I'm all ears! – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 01:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Robert Milligan (Bradford MP)

Where? The link goes to a main page. Where is the reference to Milligan? Sting_au Talk 11:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok thanks :-) Found him when I scrolled down. Some of my ancestors came out from Yorkshire. I did find several hits for Robert Milligan via Google. That link you gave me would be a better one to use on the article as it leads more directly to his listing. Certainly makes it easier to check the source. Cheers, Sting_au Talk 12:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

opinion request

On the disamb page Kevin Brown there are three baseball players. The article of one is distinguished by (baseball), while the other two are distinguished by middle initials. This doesn't look right to me. What do you think? Kingturtle (talk) 02:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Quite a problem! I've tidied up the page for KDB a bit, while looking at it. WP:NAMEPEOPLE doesn't really help - don't use middle names/initials to dab if they aren't generally used, don't use dates of birth to dab, "be imaginative". We can't even split them into pitcher and catcher as there are 2 pitchers. It might be interesting to ask at .... well, you've beaten me to it, I was just checking Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people) and you're there! I've added it as a followon to your question there. PamD (talk) 08:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

PS I see that Kevin Brown (baseball) was originally Kevin Brown and then was moved to Kevin Brown (pitcher) ! Also, looking at "What links here" from the dab page, I bet the vast majority of them are intended for this person, and may well have predated that first move if the moving editor didn't chase up all the links and update them. Complicate. PamD (talk) 08:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

"LEA and local authority not the same"

In fact they are. The government has specifically denegrated the use of the term LEA, as stated at Local Education Authority - "The phrase is now obsolete in official use, but is still frequently used informally to refer to the Education Department of the relevant local authority." I'll leave your amendment on the Dorset page however, until I can think of better wording.

CS⁴⁶ 18:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Exmoor

Thanks for your comments on the Sport and recreation section of Exmoor. I've incorporated them but if you feel further changes are needed please feel free.— Rod ^talk 17:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Sir Roger Clifford: hanged or hung?

Question is still open. See my last comment on the York Castle talk page. I now lean towards hung, but the evidence is ambiguous. Acad Ronin (talk) 01:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

TLA (again)

		The "Patience of Job" Barnstar
		I'm giving you this barnstar because of your incredible patience, politeness, persistence, tolerance and skill in dealing with mis-guided editors. Well done, and keep up the good work. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, thank you very much! It remains to be seen, of course, whether the latest little tiff has been concluded or whether we're in for more of it! PamD (talk) 11:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

True. But I have confidence that you will handle it all in a more than adequate manner. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The link

Hi. I'm removing the link deliberately as traditional county links to Counties of the United Kingdom. Traditional counties as a concept did not really exist across the UK on a similar basis. Most notably Scotland just had "counties". MRSC • Talk 09:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Historic counties of England might be a good one to add there. MRSC • Talk 09:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

As long as the unit referred to is linked e.g. Monmouthshire there is no need to link to a unit describer article. If anything that is overlinking as the detail is contained within the article. Removing overlinking or links to irrelevant/misleading articles is a good thing. MRSC • Talk 09:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Current revision

• I'm sorry, but I think you have the wrong user. 75.56.56.196 (talk) 00:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Perhaps your IP address is shared with other users - there certainly appear to have been 2 vandalising edits to Mile made by User:75.56.56.196 - see here and here PamD (talk) 00:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Leeds

Just to update - I ask another admin, Pedro, to take a quick look and he has just got back to suggest taking to WP:RM to get it reversed. Also noticed it leaves us with 2 articles on the council - Leeds city council & Leeds City Council. Keith D (talk) 17:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

caves etc

I'm glad someone is taking an interest!!! I hope you can keep me honest. I'm trying to mobilize some cavers (apart from me) to start making contributions. Otherwise progress will be slow. I was only starting out these pages from a basic guidebook and a few web references. My guidebook is only 5 years old but already out of date. There is an extensive amount of recent discoveries in the caves on Leck Fell, which are being reported in Descent (a valid periodical for citations, and for sale from the shops in Ingleton). There is also a huge quantity of historical paperwork in the libraries listed at Caving in the United Kingdom, which few people know about. See the picture on cave digging for an image of a shaft that was very recently opened up, creating a way down to a 5km cave system that was formerly only accessible by cave diving from the bottom of an adjacent cave.

I have put some of my ideas into Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caves. Perhaps you could review its suitability. Basically, I don't want to use the wikipedia pages as a guidebook; but perhaps only to refer to which guidebooks describe how to get down the cave. Also to outline the history of exploration, which is not normally mentioned in a guidebook, and has to be compiled from multiple references. The history goes back 70 years on many of those caves. Between those caves on Leck Fell, and across the valley towards Casterton Fell is the Easegill System, which is the longest cave system in the UK. It would be sad if walkers were not generally aware of this.

I'm afraid I don't have time to clear up the Rowton Pot/Cave mixup as it's not in my guidebook. It'll have to be someone else.Goatchurch (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Grand Theatre disambiguation page

Reeeeeeeeealllllllly because 33,157,200 people believe Canada is as important as the UK, or the US, who both have divided listings on the page. I am a professional theatrical props builder in Canada, and I plan on updating the Grand Theatre pages for my country with pride, because they are important, and culturally significant. Thanks for your welcome, and your tips. I'm glad to be here. John.

John, I've got no problem at all with there being a "Canada" section on that page. I just don't think you then need to specify "Canada" in each line. That's just the same as the UK and US sections - the only countries named are those in the "Other" section, from which you've quite reasonably extracted the Canadian entries to give them their own section. What's the problem? PamD (talk) 22:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

None, I misunderstood your issue with the page, and the undo's of my original edit. Now I understand, Thanks.

Somerset FAC

Unfortunately there has been a problem with FAC (possibly due to transcluded pages/templates & overall page size). As a result several nominations, including Somerset, have had to be restarted and I have been informed that all previous commentary (both supporting and opposing), including yours is void. As a result would you be kind enough to review the page and place any comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Somerset. Thanks— Rod ^talk 19:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Constituency templates continued

Thank you for your recent messages on my talk page: I appreciate the effort involved. Unfortunately, I find myself distracted by events and so cannot give your messages my full attention. Thank you for your time, regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for telling me about the discussion at TfD. Green Giant (talk) 00:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Woman's Barnstar
		For your tireless contributions on the disambiguation project and especially for clearing out the 'D's this afternoon I award you this Working Woman's Barnstar. nancy (talk) 18:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Well that's very kind of you, thanks! We only just avoided edit conflict over John Duffy, I see. I tend to meander around looking for other eligible folk to add to any dab page, as well as the ones on the list - all part of the infinite jigsaw puzzle which is Wikipedia. And all good excuses for not doing various real-life jobs I should have done this afternoon! PamD (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

John Marshall

Thanks for the information regarding redlinked entries. I'm in the middle of making a list of former Middlesbrough F.C. players, which is taking a while with the amount of notable (per given criteria) players included, and he was one of them. I'll make sure to re-include him when the thing finally goes live. Thanks again for the heads-up regards policy. --Simmo676 (talk) 18:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Patriarch Alexius II

I have made a suggestion at Patriarch Alexius II#Propose Protecting this Article that I think is workable. It changes the rules a little and should significantly reduce conflict. I would like to invite you to review the proposal and participate in the creation of a great article. It will stop edit warring by restricting work to the talk page in part because reverting another editors comments on the talk page is counter to WP:TALK. Jeepday (talk) 04:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Stub sorting

Thanks for your invitation to join the stub sorting project, but it is an activity in which I have no interest. After nearly 9500 mainspace edits, I am thoroughly aware of the existence of a diverse variety of stub templates. When I encounter stubs in areas I am familiar with, I usually try to add an appropriate topical template. However, when I encounter or create a stub article in an unfamiliar area (for example, an article I visited because of following a link on a vandal's edit log), I feel I am doing good when I fix obvious problems (such as the need for categorization or the lack of a stub template on a vestigial article), and I feel no obligation to make the article more perfect by researching stub templates appropriate to the topic. (As it happens, you encountered my edits in an article about a school in Malaysia, which is probably the only Malaysian school article I've ever touched.) I'm glad that there are other contributors, like you, who are willing to focus on areas that don't happen to interest me. --Orlady (talk) 01:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Run for Mooore

Can you confirm Run for Moore is a mens-only charity event, women can run to I thought? --Gothgirlangel1981 (talk) 16:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)