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An extreme cold watch is a weather watch issued by the United States' National Weather Service (NWS) to inform the public that "dangerously cold air, with or without wind, is possible."

As of 1 October, 2024, the NWS replaced the "wind chill watch" with the "extreme cold watch." The NWS officially implemented changes to its wind chill and hard freeze warnings, watches, and advisories (WWAs) as part of its "Hazard Simplification initiative." The goal of these WWA name changes, per the NWS, was "simplifying a suite of cold weather forecast products to improve messaging of winter hazards and provide better decision support." The changes include:

Extreme Cold Consolidation and Renaming

• Wind Chill Watch was renamed to Extreme Cold Watch
• Wind Chill Warning was renamed to Extreme Cold Warning
• Wind Chill Advisory was renamed to Cold Weather Advisory

Freeze Consolidation

• Hard Freeze Watch was renamed to Freeze Watch
• Hard Freeze Warning was consolidated to Freeze Warning

^{Local NWS offices will still determine the standards governing the issuance of such WWAs.}

Example

WWUS75 KPIH 111108
NPWPIH

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Pocatello ID
408 AM MST Thu Jan 11 2024

IDZ052-053-064-065-120000-
/O.NEW.KPIH.EC.A.0001.240113T0300Z-240113T1600Z/
Arco/Mud Lake Desert-Upper Snake River Plain-Big Hole Mountains-
Teton Valley-
Including the cities of Mud Lake, INL, Craters of the Moon NM, 
Idaho Falls, Rexburg, St. Anthony, Victor, Ashton, Tetonia, 
and Driggs
408 AM MST Thu Jan 11 2024

...EXTREME COLD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING...

* WHAT...Dangerously cold wind chills possible. Wind chills as low 
  as 25 below zero.

* WHERE...Arco/Mud Lake Desert, Upper Snake River Plain, Big Hole
  Mountains, and Teton Valley, including but not limited to Mud 
  Lake, INL, Craters of the Moon NM, Idaho Falls, Rexburg, St. 
  Anthony, Victor, Ashton, Tetonia, and Driggs.

* WHEN...From Friday evening through Saturday morning.

* IMPACTS...The dangerously cold wind chills could cause frostbite
  on exposed skin in as little as 10 minutes. 

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Monitor the latest forecasts for updates on this situation. 

&&

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User talk:Asukite/Archives/2024/October#AIM-174_Pre-Move_Review_Discussion

"AIM-174 air-to-air missile" was moved without discussion to "AIM-174B." Consensus was reached RE: the removal of "air-to-air missile," but no consensus was reached regarding the addition or removal of the "B." After a no-consensus RM close (which should have brought us back to the original title, sans agreed-upon unneeded additional disambiguator), I requested the discussion be re-opened, per policy. The original closer (who found for "no consensus") was concerned they had become "too involved" in the process and requested another closer. Said closer immediately found consensus for "AIM-174B." I pressed-on to a MRV, where an additional "no consensus" finding was issued. The issues, as I see them, are as-follows:

WP:RMUM: The move from “AIM-174 air-to-air missile” to “AIM-174B” was conducted without discussion, and I maintain all post-move discussions have achieved "no consensus."

Burden of Proof: The onus should be on the mover of the undiscussed title to justify their change, not on others to defend the original title. I refrained from reverting the move during the MRV process out of politeness, which should not shift the burden of proof onto me.

Precedent: I am concerned with the precedent. Undiscussed moves may be brute-forced into acceptance even if "no consensus" or a very slim consensus (WP:NOTAVOTE) is found?

Argument in-favor of "AIM-174:" See Talk:AIM-174B#Requested_move_20_September_2024 for arguments in-favor and against. However, I would like to make it clear that I was the only person arguing WP. Those in-favor of "174B" were simply disagreeing with my WP arguments, but not offering their own in-support of "174B."

TO BE CLEAR, I am not alleging bad faith on behalf of anyone, and I am extremely grateful to all those who have been involved, particularly the RM/MRV closers that I will be naming here. I would like to make it clear that this isn't simply a case of a MRV 'not going my way.' I have never, in over a decade on WP, filed a dispute.

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Talk:AIM-174B#Requested_move_20_September_2024 User talk:Asukite/Archives/2024/October#AIM-174_Pre-Move_Review_Discussion [1]

Ideally, I would request reversion to "AIM-174." Failing that, I would request reversion to the 'true' original title, "AIM-174 air-to-air-missile" and the onus be shifted onto the individual wishing to move this article to complete an RM. Otherwise, a review of my policy argument(s) weighed against the apparent "consensus" (which I, personally, deny exists).

I strongly believe that this move violates WP. That said, I will happily accept any resolution offered, here.