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i am already very tired of arguing about this but i am not a "deletionist" and i have no interest in anything other than improving the project and coverage of topics i'm interested in. in fact, i have written/rewritten multiple articles about medieval Insular saints' cults: [[Melangell]], [[St Melangell's Church]], [[Historia Divae Monacellae]], and just yesterday i rewrote & expanded [[Saint Lide]]. ''i just do not think Dachuna is notable.'' <br>i may not be a historian, but that does not even slightly matter - i am able to read and analyze academic sources, and more importantly, <span style="color:#507533">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#507533">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#507533">talk</span>]]</span> 18:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
i am already very tired of arguing about this but i am not a "deletionist" and i have no interest in anything other than improving the project and coverage of topics i'm interested in. in fact, i have written/rewritten multiple articles about medieval Insular saints' cults: [[Melangell]], [[St Melangell's Church]], [[Historia Divae Monacellae]], and just yesterday i rewrote & expanded [[Saint Lide]]. ''i just do not think Dachuna is notable.'' <br>i may not be a historian, but that does not even slightly matter - i am able to read and analyze academic sources, and more importantly, <span style="color:#507533">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#507533">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#507533">talk</span>]]</span> 18:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)


:I'll politely remind you Sawyer that you are the one that raised this issue, which has consumed some of my time, indeed I'd intended to write an article today but had to spend time instead commenting on this. So with all due respect you don't get to complain about being 'tired of arguing about this'. Regarding being a historian, I don't care if you're not a historian, I'm not a physicist or evolutionary biologist or Sinologist, I made the comment because you were saying nonsense things about something that is much more complex than you seemed to understand. Personally I think if one is editing articles on a project like this one should be conscientious and relaxed but also honest about where one can contribute competently. [[User:Deacon of Pndapetzim|Deacon of Pndapetzim]] (<small>[[User talk:Deacon of Pndapetzim|Talk]]</small>) 18:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:I'll politely remind you Sawyer that you are the one that raised this issue, which has consumed some of my time, indeed I'd intended to write an article today but had to spend time instead commenting on this. So with all due respect you don't get to complain about being 'tired of arguing about this'. Regarding being a historian, I don't care if you're not a historian, I'm not a physicist or evolutionary biologist or Sinologist, I made the comment because you were saying nonsense things about something that is much more complex than you seemed to understand. Personally I think if one is editing articles on a project like this one should be conscientious and relaxed but also honest about where and how one can contribute competently. [[User:Deacon of Pndapetzim|Deacon of Pndapetzim]] (<small>[[User talk:Deacon of Pndapetzim|Talk]]</small>) 18:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year to yourself, hope all is well! Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 00:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Evan Fraser of Balconie for deletion

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Hi, I see you're a member of WP:Mythology, would you be interested in a sub project on WP:Anthropology on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 14:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Eadwulfs

Looking at Eadwulf, Eadwulf of Bamburgh and Eadwulf, Earl of Bernicia, we have a lot of confusion of numerals:

Eadwulf of Northumbria redirects to Eadwulf I of Northumbria, but
Eadwulf II of Northumbria redirects to Eadwulf I of Bamburgh, but
Eadwulf II of Bamburgh is red, but
Eadwulf Cudel calls him "Eadwulf III of Bamburgh", yet
Eadwulf III of Bamburgh redirects to Eadwulf IV of Bamburgh, and
Eadwulf Evil-child also ruled Bamburgh and has no number.

From what I can tell, our Eadwulfs I and IV of Bamburgh are correct, but Evil-child should be the missing Eadwulf II and Cudel is the real Eadwulf III. Numbering Eadwulf I of Northumbria is a little confusing, given that no other Eadwulf who unambiguously ruled all Northumbria is presented. Srnec (talk) 00:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted. I think this is to do with confusion and mixed intentions about classifying Eadwulf died 913 as I of Bamburgh or II of Northumbria. Makes most sense to given them nicknames when possible, but start Bamburgh rather than Northumbria from after Aella's death; and number afresh rather than numbering as if they were still Northumbria, is that how you see it? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 00:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think so. I agree that the main issue of confusion is the Eadwulf who died in 913 and how he should be seen in relation to those that come before and after. If we leave him as is, then the numbering is correct and we just need to fix up the redirects. This is the scheme used here. There are no nicknames for Eadwulfs I and IV that I can see. Srnec (talk) 02:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried to clean it up and fix links. I left Eadwulf I of Northumbria as is and created a Eadwulf of Northumbria dab page, but we could easily move the first to the base name and use hatnotes. Srnec (talk) 03:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, looks good. I do wonder about the Eadwulf I page but I guess it's probably OK where it is. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 14:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]

The article Dachuna has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern... sawyer * he/they * talk 15:35, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any valid reason for deletion, when did limited historical sources mean limited notability? We basically have only one source for Beowulf, doesn't mean the topic isn't notable. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laws of London

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1=Launchballer 00:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

very interesting article, Deacon of Pndapetzim. I enjoyed reading it. Thanks for putting it together. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Mr Serjeant! Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Dachuna for deletion

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... sawyer * he/they * talk 15:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand where you get the motivation to put all that effort trying to get useful articles deleted. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This type of canvassing is highly inappropriate behavior. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, since I have Deacon's talk page watchlisted, I was already aware of the AfD (I saw it in my morning reading of my watchlist over breakfast before Deacon posted on my talk page). I had planned to weigh in, but I had to feed farm animals and batten down the hatches this morning in front of a large storm headed my way. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pbritti, please don't come to my talk page posting nonsense again. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this selective attempt to impose deletionist maximalism

i am already very tired of arguing about this but i am not a "deletionist" and i have no interest in anything other than improving the project and coverage of topics i'm interested in. in fact, i have written/rewritten multiple articles about medieval Insular saints' cults: Melangell, St Melangell's Church, Historia Divae Monacellae, and just yesterday i rewrote & expanded Saint Lide. i just do not think Dachuna is notable.
i may not be a historian, but that does not even slightly matter - i am able to read and analyze academic sources, and more importantly, ... sawyer * he/they * talk 18:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll politely remind you Sawyer that you are the one that raised this issue, which has consumed some of my time, indeed I'd intended to write an article today but had to spend time instead commenting on this. So with all due respect you don't get to complain about being 'tired of arguing about this'. Regarding being a historian, I don't care if you're not a historian, I'm not a physicist or evolutionary biologist or Sinologist, I made the comment because you were saying nonsense things about something that is much more complex than you seemed to understand. Personally I think if one is editing articles on a project like this one should be conscientious and relaxed but also honest about where and how one can contribute competently. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]