:'''Oppose:''' For reasons stated by the other commenters. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 00:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose:''' For reasons stated by the other commenters. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 00:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
::Not up for discussion, but might be more recognizable to many readers if Varzaquan were changed to Iranian Air Force or just Iranian. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 00:03, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Threats to the diaspora and to anti-regime protesters and subsequent legal consequences
Just days before the incident in London, there was an incident in the DC area where diaspora members protesting a memorial to Raisi received death threats from someone who turned out to be an employee of the Iranian Special Interests Section of the Embassy of Pakistan. The staffer, Ramezan Soltan-Mohammadi, has received a temporary restraining order from the Maryland court system that prevents him from coming close to at least one protest leader's home and workplace. A group comprised of members of the diaspora has taken him to court, and the case is ongoing. 100.15.173.239 (talk) 22:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not convinced that these incidents are within the scope of this article, of which the primary topic is the crash itself. Threats against people protesting a commemoration of one of the victims of the crash would likely be a bit WP:OFFTOPIC. I'm not against a brief mention of the threats in this article, but any in-depth coverage should probably be in Interests Section of Iran in the United States or another article more closely related to the threats themselves. - ZLEAT\C06:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On social media platforms, Iranians and Iranian exiles are speculating that Raisi's death was an assassination carried out by members of the Islamic Republic, frequently using the terms "removed" or "deleted". One popular theory is that Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the Supreme Leader, was connected to the death. The premise that runs through most of these posts is that Raisi may have been a contender in the unofficial, unspoken race to become the next ruler of the Islamic Republic and therefore had to be "removed". "In Iran's conspiratorial political culture, few will believe that Raisi's death was an accident," Karim Sadjadpour of the Carnegie Endowment for Peace posted on X on Sunday night, hours before Raisi's death was confirmed.[1] The many violent and unexplained deaths in the Islamic Republic's 45-year history add to the speculation.[2] Another reason for speculation is that the pictures of the accident scene published by the official Iranian media were from another accident a few years ago.[3]Jason Rezaian, a journalist and former hostage of the Islamic Republic, thinks that the most likely cause of this fatal helicopter crash is that it was an accident that most likely happened because a large part of the Islamic Republic is in an advanced state of decay and points to the extremely high number of deaths from traffic accidents in Iran.[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by EiersalatmitGurken (talk • contribs) 09:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose – I'll give you a reason for having 2024 in the title: clarity. It immediately gives the reader the 'when' without sacrificing brevity. You cannot argue that 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash is not concise, while it makes it immediately clear that the event is not some accident from the Sixties or something. Titling an article is not a contest to see who comes up with the shortest possible title that is logically unambiguous. --Deeday-UK (talk) 16:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Deeday-UK. There's no reason to remove 2024 from the title and it's a useful bit of information. It removes any ambiguity. Other helicopters have crashed in the region before, such as this one in 2008, and while other crashes don't have their own articles they are still reason enough to include the year in the article title. Archimedes157 (talk) 19:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not up for discussion, but might be more recognizable to many readers if Varzaquan were changed to Iranian Air Force or just Iranian. Donner60 (talk) 00:03, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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