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Texting controversy

@Jjazz76: If, as you say, Sorett's role in this controversy has "gotten pretty significant coverage" to the point that his text ought to be included in an encyclopedia article about him, why would you not include those sources? GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just did. Added cites for two NY Times articles and WNBC 4 NY. If you would like more, happy to include them. Jjazz76 (talk) 18:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The last NYT source does not support the statement in the article. The statement by Shafik is referring to texts sent by the admins who were removed, not the text sent by Sorett. I am still concerned about including this in the article, given Sorett's fairly minor role. The coverage cited has been almost exclusively to do with the more substantive text messages, not Sorett's involvement. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still think it deserves a mention. Even if a one liner at this point. There is a whole statement on it from both the President and the Provost of the University that mentions him a number of times:

https://president.columbia.edu/news/messages-president-shafik-and-provost-olinto

I am in agreement with your removal of his statements related to the April protests in which he played a very very minor role, but here he plays a rather central role, even if the whole story is mostly concocted by the Washington Free Beacon, which I believe it is. Jjazz76 (talk) 18:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :I just did. Added cites for two NY Times articles and WNBC 4 NY. If you would like more, happy to include them.  [[User:Jjazz76|Jjazz76]] ([[User talk:Jjazz76|talk]]) 18:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 ::The last NYT source does not support the statement in the article. The statement by Shafik is referring to texts sent by the admins who were removed, not the text sent by Sorett. I am still concerned about including this in the article, given Sorett's fairly minor role. The coverage cited has been almost exclusively to do with the more substantive text messages, not Sorett's involvement. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 18:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
+:::I still think it deserves a mention. Even if a one liner at this point. There is a whole statement on it from both the President and the Provost of the University that mentions him a number of times:
+:::https://president.columbia.edu/news/messages-president-shafik-and-provost-olinto
+:::I am in agreement with your removal of his statements related to the April protests in which he played a very very minor role, but here he plays a rather central role, even if the whole story is mostly concocted by the Washington Free Beacon, which I believe it is. [[User:Jjazz76|Jjazz76]] ([[User talk:Jjazz76|talk]]) 18:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)