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::* [[WP:WIKIVOICE]], [[WP:WTW]] - I think the lede could use some work. To "draw from their background" implies such a background exists, and this is not described in the article. This term is also a metaphor, as drawing alludes to drawing from a deck of cards, which is ambiguous. A much more neutral description would be to state what Zhang's involvement with those subjects has been, and that her work includes themes of these subjects. These things are much simpler to verify than a specific connection between an individual linking their past with their work and so on when this has not (from what I can see) been described in a secondary source. I have similar comments about terms like "imagine possible liberatory, anti-colonial futures", "documentation and speculation as strategies to understand". Finally, be careful about using terms like "environmental justice" in Wikivoice - the term refers to a specific shard of the environmentalist movement, and isn't itself a universally agreed upon state of being. |
::* [[WP:WIKIVOICE]], [[WP:WTW]] - I think the lede could use some work. To "draw from their background" implies such a background exists, and this is not described in the article. This term is also a metaphor, as drawing alludes to drawing from a deck of cards, which is ambiguous. A much more neutral description would be to state what Zhang's involvement with those subjects has been, and that her work includes themes of these subjects. These things are much simpler to verify than a specific connection between an individual linking their past with their work and so on when this has not (from what I can see) been described in a secondary source. I have similar comments about terms like "imagine possible liberatory, anti-colonial futures", "documentation and speculation as strategies to understand". Finally, be careful about using terms like "environmental justice" in Wikivoice - the term refers to a specific shard of the environmentalist movement, and isn't itself a universally agreed upon state of being. |
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::<span style="color:#ef5224">[[User:BrigadierG|BrigadierG]]</span> ([[User talk:BrigadierG|talk]]) 00:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Got it, thank you! This is so helpful. I really appreciate your time explaining what the yellow flags are! I/we will work on these changes as soon as we can and submit through AFC. Thank you again for your help! [[User:Walkingreason|Walkingreason]] ([[User talk:Walkingreason#top|talk]]) 04:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Hello, Walkingreason. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Bz Zhang, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
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- Hello! Thank you so much for flagging and sharing these resources. I am an architecture student with no relationship or conflict of interest, but was researching them for an assignment, and my classmate and I thought we would try to make our first article. We didn't mean to create any issues, and we will go through the Articles for Creation procedure moving forward. Thank you again! Walkingreason (talk) 16:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would be best to go through WP:AFC, but apologies if I was incorrect about COI! Welcome to Wikipedia, not trying to WP:BITE a new editor. We see quite a lot of promotional biographical articles at New Pages Patrol and the way the article was written raised a few yellow flags for COI that are common in self-promotional articles. I list them not to double down on the guess, but hopefully as pointers to help make this article stronger:
- WP:NOTEBOMB - It's a common strategy for COI editors to try and get borderline articles over the line for notability by including every mention they've ever had in any source anywhere. In this case, exhaustively listing every place where their work has been featured doesn't increase their notability because notability is not WP:INHERITED - close association with a notable entity does not raise notability in its own right in the case of biographies. To improve this, I would consider tidying up the exhaustive listing of displays into a prose summary, preferably as covered by some kind of WP:SECONDARY source to avoid WP:SYNTH. I would leave out very minor details like every place they got grants from and every speaking engagement they've had unless it's contextual for a specific piece of art or a noteworthy exhibition.
- WP:WIKIVOICE, WP:WTW - I think the lede could use some work. To "draw from their background" implies such a background exists, and this is not described in the article. This term is also a metaphor, as drawing alludes to drawing from a deck of cards, which is ambiguous. A much more neutral description would be to state what Zhang's involvement with those subjects has been, and that her work includes themes of these subjects. These things are much simpler to verify than a specific connection between an individual linking their past with their work and so on when this has not (from what I can see) been described in a secondary source. I have similar comments about terms like "imagine possible liberatory, anti-colonial futures", "documentation and speculation as strategies to understand". Finally, be careful about using terms like "environmental justice" in Wikivoice - the term refers to a specific shard of the environmentalist movement, and isn't itself a universally agreed upon state of being.
- BrigadierG (talk) 00:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Got it, thank you! This is so helpful. I really appreciate your time explaining what the yellow flags are! I/we will work on these changes as soon as we can and submit through AFC. Thank you again for your help! Walkingreason (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would be best to go through WP:AFC, but apologies if I was incorrect about COI! Welcome to Wikipedia, not trying to WP:BITE a new editor. We see quite a lot of promotional biographical articles at New Pages Patrol and the way the article was written raised a few yellow flags for COI that are common in self-promotional articles. I list them not to double down on the guess, but hopefully as pointers to help make this article stronger: