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::::::::You removed my edits and now you are telling me to go to talk page and yalk there? Yes thats the best dodge i have ever seen. I dont think you will address any points I made. [[User:Adityaverma8998|Adityaverma8998]] ([[User talk:Adityaverma8998|talk]]) 08:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
::::::::You removed my edits and now you are telling me to go to talk page and yalk there? Yes thats the best dodge i have ever seen. I dont think you will address any points I made. [[User:Adityaverma8998|Adityaverma8998]] ([[User talk:Adityaverma8998|talk]]) 08:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Thanks for catching that. Glad to see you've seen the article, which doesn't show any signs of notability as the sources only have one line mentions. What do you think? I've warned the editor about falsely labelling edits as fixing typos. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 13:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Pakistani rape gangs in UK
In these little british towns, almost all people are white british. The white british girls are the easy target for the foreign sex rings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2800:484:7E80:1F00:F158:FA18:2C98:EE11 (talk) 06:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please only add what you can support with reliable sources, not what you think is true. See WP:V and WP:OR for the relevant guidelines. Sjö (talk) 06:25, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- The victims were vulnerable children, in care. They were victimised because they were vulnerable, not because of the colour of their skin. Making it about 'race' provides an easy excuse to avoid giving such vulnerable people the care they deserve. The majority of child abuse in Britain is, unsurprisingly, carried out by people from the majority (i.e. 'White') population. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi! Regarding the edit to Black Culture page
I saw the message and alteration on why the change, but there was a reason for the alteration I made as a historian, specifically African and African American historian.
If I may… Black Culture is not the same as African Culture, and this is confusing to many people. It’s not taking about black people as much as it is talking about specific “culture”. It is looked at as a full term, not separating words, similar to tennis shoe or basketball. Taking the words apart give different meaning.
African culture is founded within the continent of Africa, and the groups of that continent never in history referred to their cultures as “Black Culture”. Many didn’t and still don’t refer to themselves as Black. There cultures are such as Igbo culture, Zulu culture etc. per their ethnic groups.
Black Culture is what African Americans named their culture as it emerged at the Harlem Renaissance and in the 1960s, coming out of the United States of America. They named their culture Black Culture because they had already referred to themselves as Black, unlike anyone on the African Continent or Caribbean. The later to places only referred to themselves by their ethnic group.
This is noted is several historic documents and elders today around the globe. The issue isn’t if there are more black (as in race) around world. The point is that African American (Black American) (Black) in the USA and abroad refers automatically to African Americans because everyone knows the history and cultural context of Black Culture.
It has been an offense to call or rename “Zulu culture” or any other African or Caribbean CULTURE, Black Culture, when speaking of their ancient cultures. It is respectful to call it what it is, and not change it.
Black Culture is singular, not plural. African cultures are founded in Africa…. not saying by race many are not black, but a whole North side isn’t and many on the East are offended in being called Black. They are proud of their culture as Somali or Ethiopian Culture.
People move into America and assimilate into Black Culture (African American culture), but they know their birth ethnicity and ethnic culture of parents.
Ethnicity and broad “phenotype race” are different. We are black people by race(what we look like) but African Culture (really should say cultures), is different than Black Culture which emerged in the USA in the 1900s. The other cultures were already alive and thriving for thousands of years prior.
AA have always referred to themselves as Black ie. Black History Month, Black Panthers, Black… this is unlike any other. People who are not of the phenotype black may not know this, but if one searches anywhere, online or off, the words Black Culture pulls up African American. The words African culture pulls of the wonderful cultures that are thousands of years old, founded in Africa.
I am hoping you understand as I tried to explain as best I could. Thank you for your time. Be well. Sorry for any typos in this message because I didn’t look it over. 172.75.146.57 (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see your point and it would be valid if Black culture was an article. In articles, editors come to a consensus about the scope of an article, i.e. what should be included and what should be left out. A defined scope makes the article more readable and less confusing when the article is about one subject.
- Disambiguation pages serve a purpose different from articles. The purpose of a disambiguation page (such as Black culture) is to direct a reader seeking information on a topic to the right page. This means that disambiguation pages contain links to articles on very different subjects. See for instance the page Black mold that links to three different molds, a musician's alias, a music album and a graphic novel series. That those links are found on the same page does not in any way suggest that they are the same. The links are there because someone typing "black mold" in the search bar is probably looking for something found in one of those links. Same with the page Black culture, where there should be links to what people are reasonably looking for when they search for "black culture". This would include the culture of black people in other countries than the US, and it is trivial to show that black culture does not always mean African American culture; that is a very US-centric viewpoint and Wikipedia seeks to present information from a global point of view. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding about what links on disambiguation pages mean. Happy editing!Sjö (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Help wanted with user.
Hi, a user you’ve recently had dealings with is continuing to post spam links on various pages. In my personal opinion the user should be banned. Looking at their edit history, shows they have no interest in making useful contributions and instead will continue to cause disruption. I’m not entirely sure the user isn’t a bot. Could you please assist? Kind regards Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- For what it's worth I don't think he is a bot, just a person with poor English and no understanding of Wikipedia. Sjö (talk) 08:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edits???
Why did you revert my edits when new IMF data proves that? And why didn't you revert edits to other Developed countries or do u only revert African countries? Nlivataye (talk) 11:06, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I gave my reasons in the edit comments, and I'd be happy to explain them in more detail, but only after you answer a question: Do you think that my edit was motivated by racism, yes or no?
- You have made several comments that to me seem to imply that white editors purposely and in bad faith downgrade the information on African countries, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AUkraine&diff=prev&oldid=1149498885&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANlivataye&diff=prev&oldid=1146213142&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AList_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita&diff=prev&oldid=1145528421&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AUkraine&diff=prev&oldid=1142988524&diffmode=source
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASwahili_language&diff=prev&oldid=1142779205&diffmode=source . Hence my question. Sjö (talk) 07:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
CS1 error on Coastal artillery
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Your beetle edit
I noticed your concern about what-when-how.com as a source. The reference you removed from Beetle was copied from the Encyclopedia of Insects chapter on the Colorado potato beetle, which can be seen on Google books. Clearly there is no need to cite what-when-how.com when the original source is an alternative.
However, when I went to add the citation, I saw that the article has nothing to do with the topic in the beetle article (the thorax). So not only is the source dubious, it is being used inappropriately. I don't see the point, but it seems some sort of spam exercise. — Jts1882 | talk 10:46, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I guess that the source looks reliable, since it often copies from reliable sources. I didn't check to see if most of the links were refspam added by one editor, but my gut feeling is that they were added by mistake by several well-meaning editors. Sjö (talk) 16:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
John Yunshire's reverts
Hi, thanks for restoring my additions on Soviet military occupations to military occupation. However, John Yunshire (Special:Contributions/John Yunshire) also reverted multiple other related edits, which I restored, related to history and the USSR/Russia. One of the most strange is his revert on Nostalgia for the Soviet Union where he restored the unsourced claim that the Russian government is "anti-communist". I do not what is the rationale for the user's reverts, while he claims to be pro-Ukraine. 85.249.16.120 (talk) 09:47, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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Red Rock
Please read the history about the Red Rock under the history about Red Reck on Wikipedia website with Red Rock beverages and please read also Red Rock today on Wikipedia website about Red Rock (beverage).
After the 1950s, the Red Rock Company seemed to vanish entirely and it is unknown when the company disestablished. An orphaned affiliate continued producing the product in the Dominican Republic, and it is now distributed there by the Cervecería Nacional Dominicana. The formulas for Red Rock's carbonated beverage products survive and are now owned by Sensient Technologies of Indianapolis, Indiana, which has its own network of distributors.[1]http://soda-pops.blogspot.com/2006/09/red-rock-cola_05.html?m=1 Clayton Distributors of Atlanta is a major distributor of Red Rock branded ginger ale and cola. [2]https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/1998/07/27/smallb1.html?page=2
So yes you are wrong. Yes That actually is also about the American brand but also the Dominican brand products.
please read the whole thing before you delete anything at all, just remember that okay
Brand
Red Rock Premium, Red Rock Cola, Red Rock Beverages and Red Rock Ginger Ale US only:
- Red Rock Cola Soda
- Red Rock Premium Cola Soda
- Red Rock Beverages Soda
- Red Rock Premium Beverages Soda
- Red Rock Premium Orange Soda
- Red Rock Premium Golden Ginger Ale Soda
- Red Rock Premium Peach Soda
- Red Rock Premium Grape Soda
- Red Rock Premium Root Beer Soda
Red Rock soft drinks Dominican Republic only:
- Red Rock Uva (Grape)
- Red Rock Chicle (Bubblegum)
- Red Rock Frambuesa (Raspberry)
- Red Rock Manzana Verde (Green Apple)
- Red Rock Naranja (Orange)
- Red Rock Merengue (Meringue)
- Red Rock Azul (Blue)
[1][2][3] 91.100.157.11 (talk) 14:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Nothing suggests that these are the same company. Do not hijack an article to add unrelated (except for the name) content. Sjö (talk) 14:31, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Because that thing is only for the US and some of the products is only Dominican republic, I cannot see the big deal here right and but anyway, this product is only made for the Dominican Republic. And if you find some other articles on the Internet, they say the same thing about this company only few products is made in the US and the other products is only made into the Dominican Republic only for Dominican Republic. 91.100.157.11 (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- And that has nothing to do with any hijacks at all, I don’t know why you’re talking about this? 91.100.157.11 (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- But anyways,this product it’s just it in the Dominican Republic you could ask can you Dominicans in your own country, about some of this or maybe some embassy in your country the Dominican embassy about this awesome buddy related to the Dominican Republic they will probably say the same thing just what I did right now 91.100.157.11 (talk) 14:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- That thing has nothing to do with that hijack at all of course you haft to use articles for all things here on Wikipedia or if not, that thing will be remove it without any reliable sources at all and but should read some other articles as well and they say a lot of those things about the American product and the Dominican product and what is available and what is not the Dominican Republic at all Red Rock and Red Rock have only made this product only for the Dominican Republic, only because I know it I have been into Dominican republic many times, because I am a part Dominican yes half Dominican. And I have been seeing this product with my own eyes. And tasted it. Have you ever been in this country before because if not sure, please travel to the Dominican Republic and see that with your own eyes, and all the other products and things from the Dominican Republic and a lot of different flowers, plants and animals that only exist in that area is the country and also in Haiti. Just remember that not all is on the Internet and the only information and history about things it’s not available on the Internet you have to see that for yourself and experience things and afterwards you can judge things based on that, so please try to Dominican Republic and enjoy your journey if you are traveling to the Dominican Republic maybe now or maybe in the future so please enjoy the Dominican Republic if you do that of course take care. 91.100.157.11 (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- That you were saying about hijack is just some nonsense and some bullshit. You say nothing indicates that it is not the same company behind these products, but it is and some of these products are only made for the American market and the others are only made for the Dominican market Try to check it yourself because the name of the product is basically the same and you are not allowed to use the same name for soft drinks due to copyrights and but try to read it again on Wikipedia on the website about Red Rock and other websites with the information you need about this 91.100.157.11 (talk) 17:20, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- But anyways,this product it’s just it in the Dominican Republic you could ask can you Dominicans in your own country, about some of this or maybe some embassy in your country the Dominican embassy about this awesome buddy related to the Dominican Republic they will probably say the same thing just what I did right now 91.100.157.11 (talk) 14:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
That thing has nothing to do with that hijack at all of course you haft to use articles for all things here on Wikipedia or if not, that thing will be remove it without any reliable sources at all and but should read some other articles as well and they say a lot of those things about the American product and the Dominican product and what is available and what is not the Dominican Republic at all Red Rock and Red Rock have only made this product only for the Dominican Republic, only because I know it I have been into Dominican republic many times, because I am a part Dominican yes half Dominican. And I have been seeing this product with my own eyes. And tasted it. Have you ever been in this country before because if not sure, please travel to the Dominican Republic and see that with your own eyes, and all the other products and things from the Dominican Republic and a lot of different flowers, plants and animals that only exist in that area is the country and also in Haiti.
References
Re Dirlewagner
See WP:LTA/GRP. Meters (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I figured it was something like that even if I couldn't find the user name. Sjö (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Chris Brown edits
im Just rollbacking the edits of Sockpuppet Giubbotto non ortodosso Aardlion67 (talk) 18:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- After looking at the article histories I can say that is B.S. Sjö (talk) 18:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
my barn star from my main account says otherwise you weirdo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aardlion67 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC) you can try to block me as much as you want, I still got my other account regular dumb swedish. Is it cold out there!
Shamier Little
Please refrain from threats of blocking before doing your research. You reverted an edit about Shamier Little's PB. It actually stands now (as I entered it) as 49.68s. She ran it in a second-place loss to Natalia Kaczmarek at the Monaco 2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsLuOzk2pDQ&pp=ygUTc2hhbWllciBsaXR0bGUgNDAwbQ%3D%3D
Change it back, or I will. 72.174.131.123 (talk) 04:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- I call edits as I see them based on evidence I can find. Your edit was unsourced, but I made an attempt to find a source. I looked at the date and location you gave which were London and 23 July 2023. Shamier Little did not run that distance on that date, which is why I reverted it and explained why in the edit comment. I also warned you since, as far as I could see at the time, you had added incorrect information.
- Please go ahead and add the PB, but with the correct date and location. The data also needs a source. However, the video you linked is unavailable in my location. There must be another source, right? Sjö (talk) 06:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Adding incorrect or incomplete information doesn't warrant a Block. That's why we edit. Here's a another source; it's text with an embedded video, but it also references the same YouTube video. https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sports/articles/watch_natalia_kaczmarek_glides_by_shamier_little_to_win_400m_in_monaco/s1_15557_39043386 72.174.131.123 (talk) 07:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Since it is the same video it still unavailable at my location, and the text says nothing about Little's time. Try the results page for the event.
- And for the warning, I (and other editors) factor in an editor's previous edits and warnings in the decision about a warning. As you had an earlier warning, as well as other questionable additions of unsourced/incorrect information, I think that the warning was appropriate given the information I had at the time. Sjö (talk) 07:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Adding incorrect or incomplete information doesn't warrant a Block. That's why we edit. Here's a another source; it's text with an embedded video, but it also references the same YouTube video. https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sports/articles/watch_natalia_kaczmarek_glides_by_shamier_little_to_win_400m_in_monaco/s1_15557_39043386 72.174.131.123 (talk) 07:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Request for Inclusion of External Link on Wikipedia Page
Dear Wikipedia Team,
I am writing to request the addition of an external link to a reputable website that I believe would be valuable to Wikipedia readers and users. My website, [1], is a reliable and informative resource related to Short Story
As an enthusiastic contributor and advocate for sharing knowledge, I have noticed that the Wikipedia page on this Short story Wikipedia lacks a link to my website, which I believe could significantly enhance the available information for interested readers. My website provides unique insights, in-depth analysis story making it a valuable complement to the existing content on Wikipedia.
To maintain transparency and uphold the principles of verifiability and neutrality, I would like to clarify that while I am the owner of Englishstory, my primary intention is to offer useful and credible information to the community, rather than promoting any commercial interests. The content on my website adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines, and I believe it could serve as an authoritative source for users seeking additional information.
I kindly request that you consider adding my website as an external link on the Wikipedia page for relevant topic. The inclusion of this link would not only improve the depth of knowledge available to readers but also contribute to a more comprehensive and informative article on [relevant topic].
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If necessary, I am open to providing any additional information or answering any questions you may have about my website's content, credibility, or intent.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to the possibility of seeing my website's link included on the Wikipedia page and contributing positively to the knowledge-sharing ecosystem of Wikipedia.
Sincerely,
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- That is not my call to make. Please familiarise yourself with the relevant policies (linked on your user talk page) and make the request at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard. You will also want to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest since you call it "my website". Sjö (talk) 12:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
"Poor country" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Poor country has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 22 § Poor country until a consensus is reached. Crashed greek (talk) 04:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
that attack name
My apologies. I accidentally reported that attack username under 'your username. Ignore the ping, it's already fixed. Meters (talk) 05:37, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Your edit on Yunarmiya
Hello, Sjo. Do you speak Russian or Ukrainian? If not, why did you revert my edit on Yunarmiya page? The sentence misrepresented the article. F.Alexsandr (talk) 16:21, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't speak Ukrainian and very little Russian. But even considering the errors that Google Translate can make, I see nothing in the article that suggests that the link says that it is about conscription. The lede indicates that they could be recruited as members of the organization. "Due to the lack of manpower to replenish the ranks of the occupying army, the leadership of the Kremlin is considering the possibility of involving 17-18-year-old members of the Russian children's and youth military organization "Unarmiya" in combat operations." It also clearly indicates that 17-year-old members could be put in combat, which is a noteworthy fact that you removed.
- If you insist, I am sure someone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ukraine could take a look at the source and tell us if it says something about conscription. Sjö (talk) 17:02, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ah. I see. So you dont speak the language and unable to verify on your own. The order in question (which we dont even know if genuine but lets say it is) clearly states that "...and also assess the potential of attracting (using) members of the Yunarmiya aged 17 to 18 years towards (in) conducting a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine after their conscription for military service in the spring and autumn conscriptions of 2022." Conscription in Russian armed forces starts after 18. As such the article (and even more so the wikipedia sentence) misrepresents the source. Of course you can ask for help from other people who understand the language, but since you deleted my contribution without looking on the source, i will be reverting your edit. F.Alexsandr (talk) 23:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't doubt your language skills, but I do doubt that you let the article describe what secondary sources say. Instead, it appears that you use the Russian primary source to make your own interpretation. I will ask for a third opinion. Sjö (talk) 05:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ah. I see. So you dont speak the language and unable to verify on your own. The order in question (which we dont even know if genuine but lets say it is) clearly states that "...and also assess the potential of attracting (using) members of the Yunarmiya aged 17 to 18 years towards (in) conducting a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine after their conscription for military service in the spring and autumn conscriptions of 2022." Conscription in Russian armed forces starts after 18. As such the article (and even more so the wikipedia sentence) misrepresents the source. Of course you can ask for help from other people who understand the language, but since you deleted my contribution without looking on the source, i will be reverting your edit. F.Alexsandr (talk) 23:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Taylor Guitars
Hello, Sjo. I understand you may think my edit to the Taylor Guitar page was unconstructive, but I do not agree. Please stop being annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.132.163.34 (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- If you add unsourced text and you personal opinions to an article, you can expect it to be reverted. Especially if your edit history shows that you use to vandalize articles. Sjö (talk) 14:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Assault Weapon Terminology
Hey Sjo! I'm not sure if you remember me, I made some edits the other day on some american gun law pages, mostly editing out "assault weapon" and replacing it with "semi-automatic weapon". I have since learned a little more about the process for contributing to wikipedia, and I wanted to apologize for just jumping on and making edits without any backgeound work. I am genuinely concerned about the language used from a technical and politically accurate sense, as "assault weapon" is generally a politically charged term that isn't historically used in that way. Breaching tools like shotguns would fall more into that category if anything. Would you have any advice for how I can contribute to this, or better contribute to discussion on whether or not to make these alterations? 2601:444:382:FC20:7E3C:FB95:C3C6:4D2C (talk) 05:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Here's a good (non-partisan) look at AR-15's specifically if you're interested!
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U8iDGmJ-Bs 2601:444:382:FC20:D51F:4FCF:10DC:B66D (talk) 17:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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Why did you revert my edits? Give reasons.
On what basis did you claim that my edits were socialistic perspectives? And explain why my edits were not suitable for lede, when it is just introducing the concept of ownership as the article should in its opening. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 06:29, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- The lede should be an overview of the article and reflect what is in the body of the article. It should not introduce new information, and what information is there should be presented in an accessible way. Sjö (talk) 06:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- You missed a point. On what basis did you make the claim that my edits were socialistic perspectives and therefore biased? Just because the name of the book is Socialism, on that basis?
- Second Point
- What part of it is "new information"? My edits were just expounding on the topic of ownership in such a way that was very accessible and introductory. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 06:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- That ownership is only related to economic goods is a questionable view and I believe not the general opinion. The differentation between legal, sociological and economic ownership is less problematic, but the reasoning about "having" seems to be specific to this particular philosopher. And it is absolutely not accessible. However, if you think the text should be included I think that you should start a discussion about the addition at Talk:Ownership. My talk page is not the place to discuss article content. Sjö (talk) 06:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are you even thinking before replying?
- What is written at the very initial of the article?
- "possession of property that may be any asset tangible or intangible".
- What property do you know that does not have an economic value? Property is an asset be it in control of an individual or the government or state, and therefore an economic good. Most, if not all property is an economic good.
- And you said "reasoning of having seems unique to that particular philosopher"?
- My edit just talked about possession, and that possession of something does not mean that the possessor has the ownership of it. Example - A thief stealing something does not make the thing its, and that the law recognises this. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 07:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please discuss article content on the article talk page. Sjö (talk) 07:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am not here to discuss article content, I am here to ask on what basis you removed mine? And that's your reply? You just dodged everything. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 07:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- You are discussing article content. This is the wrong place. Take it to the article talk page. Please stop posting here. Sjö (talk) 07:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- You removed my edits and now you are telling me to go to talk page and yalk there? Yes thats the best dodge i have ever seen. I dont think you will address any points I made. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 08:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- You are discussing article content. This is the wrong place. Take it to the article talk page. Please stop posting here. Sjö (talk) 07:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am not here to discuss article content, I am here to ask on what basis you removed mine? And that's your reply? You just dodged everything. Adityaverma8998 (talk) 07:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please discuss article content on the article talk page. Sjö (talk) 07:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- That ownership is only related to economic goods is a questionable view and I believe not the general opinion. The differentation between legal, sociological and economic ownership is less problematic, but the reasoning about "having" seems to be specific to this particular philosopher. And it is absolutely not accessible. However, if you think the text should be included I think that you should start a discussion about the addition at Talk:Ownership. My talk page is not the place to discuss article content. Sjö (talk) 06:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that. Glad to see you've seen the article, which doesn't show any signs of notability as the sources only have one line mentions. What do you think? I've warned the editor about falsely labelling edits as fixing typos. Doug Weller talk 13:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)