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Wikilinking

Ping David Eppstein who I believe is interested in this article and know of some (semi-)automatic tool to complete the Wikilinking save one slot of the article. Solomon 7968 06:14, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That was easy. Harder will be finding and fixing all the links to other people with similar names, links to dab pages, and redlinks to people whose articles have different names than the one they are listed under here. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:30, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but I wonder how you managed to do it. I suppose there is some option in some text editor where it is possible to search-and-replace from the start and end of a word. What software it is? Solomon 7968 06:36, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Search-and-replace newline with ]],newline[[ and then some more search-and-replace to clean up the headers, in TextWrangler. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:45, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Googling reveals TextWrangler is available only for the Macintosh. What for us Windows folks? How I made this list is first scrapping the entire list from the ACM database then manually going the "Surname, Name" list, googling to get a non-wiki variant of the title of the fellow to create as many redirects as possible, and then manually wikilinking the first slot. Did I waste any time, precisely is it possible to scrap the citation field (say with some option such as "delete everything after "For"") and change from "Surname, Name" to "Name Surname". Solomon 7968 07:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably using regular expressions. Or you could write a quick Python script. I don't know how to do that using just textual search and replace. BTW, when you wrote "interested" in your first note you could as easily have written conflict-of-interested... —David Eppstein (talk) 07:05, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I think I've removed all the wrong links and added all the missing links to people with articles under different titles. There are still a lot of links that go through redirects but I don't see a lot of urgency in cleaning those up. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you solved the links to dab pages with Dab solver. Why isn't there something similar "Redirect solver" to bypass redirects? Solomon 7968 04:03, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not dab solver. I use User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js, which colors dabs, redirects, and under-deletion-review links in distinctive colors. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:50, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Blog post

David Eppstein, would you be able to write a new blog post on your blog detailing the musical skills of the Computer scientists listed here? Looking around I found out this Harvard Crimson article on Noam D. Elkies (see particularly the quote by Harvard Math Department Chair Arthur M. Jaffe). There ought to be a similarly informative article on "Music + CS" and you might very well be the best person to write it. Solomon 7968 04:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thought Elkies was more known for his chess puzzling skills? But he's a mathematician much more than a computer scientist. I'll consider it, but probably not; I have a lot of respect for people who are good musicians, but not a lot of personal interest in musicianship, and to put something on my blog I generally have to be personally interested in it (I am my own target audience). —David Eppstein (talk) 04:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, then what about foreign language skills? I suppose such a post would be of interest to folks in the OCR industry (non Latin script languages, I mean) and to ethnic/linguistic minority groups in the CS academia. Solomon 7968 04:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No one considers Elkies a computer scientist, he least of all, I would be quite confident. E Eng 08:59, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

Ping Roll-Morton and Claude J, if any of you are willing to do the (easy) job of translating this article to French and German respectively. Solomon 7968 16:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am not very excited by the job, but maybe someone else is, I will forward the message on the computer science project in French. --Roll-Morton (talk) 11:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to sound rude but it would probably have taken the same time to create the article than while writing this post. Whatever, ping Cbyd, ManiacParisien, Sol1, Mario93, Cantons-de-l'Est if any of you are willing to do the job and Kaktus Kid for translation to Portuguese. Solomon 7968 15:31, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will do that this afternoon. There is a risk for such a List on WPfr to be deleted soon, but let's try... --Cbyd (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done--Cbyd (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiquote

David Eppstein, would you be able to find source/quote(s) for university affiliation of the fellows listed here? I guess it is approximately proportional to the data in List of Turing Award laureates by university affiliation. The idea is to create a Wikiquote page similar to what I have done in q:Shiraz Minwalla (where he talks about the String theory work done in Indian institutions) and then we can create Wikiquote pages for the (predominantly US) institutions. Same request for ICM speakers too, I guess Princeton tops the chart here. The institution quote pages can be modeled after the Princeton article I created. Solomon 7968 15:44, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It changes. Their affiliation now, or when they won? Also a fair fraction of them have industry affiliations. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiquote coverage of companies is very shallow. There is no article for IBM for instance. If you consider our article IBM Research, someone coming from a mathematics background (with exposure to the P = NP problem) may be baffled what research is being carried out in the twelve "labs" of the said organization. One solution in my mind is to create its Wikiquote page and then add quotes on its budget, company hierarchy and innovations. Solomon 7968 02:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery → List of Fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery – Proper capitalization per https://awards.acm.org/fellows. Frostly (talk) 02:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning oppose – Is this not a common noun like professor? Graham (talk) 04:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is both a common noun and a part of a proper noun phrase for a particular award. For instance (for a much more famous award) the word "prize" is a common English word, but yet the name of the Nobel Prize is "Nobel Prize", with capitals on both of its words. The words "medal" and "honor" are common English words, but yet the name of the Medal of Honor is capitalized, even when in plural: "Medals of Honor". The word "professor" is a common English word, but yet it appears capitalized when part of a proper noun phrase like Sedleian Professor of Natural Philosophy.

One issue is that Frostly's link only shows the short name of this award, "ACM Fellow". But one can find the longer name "Fellow of the Association for Computing Machinery" on other pages controlled by the association such as [1]. The fact that there is both a longer name and a shorter name is also not contradictory to other practice on Wikipedia; consider for example the person with the longer name Ellas Otha Bates and the shorter name Bo Diddley. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[:List of fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery]] → {{no redirect|List of Fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery}} – Proper capitalization per https://awards.acm.org/fellows. [[User:Frostly|Frostly]] ([[User talk:Frostly|talk]]) 02:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * '''Leaning oppose''' – Is this not a common noun like ''professor''? [[User:Graham11|Graham]] ([[User talk:Graham11|talk]]) 04:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
-*:It is both a common noun and a part of a proper noun phrase for a particular award. For instance (for a much more famous award) the word "prize" is a common English word, but yet the name of the Nobel Prize is "Nobel Prize", with capitals on both of its words. The words "medal" and "honor" are common English words, but yet the name of the [[Medal of Honor]] is capitalized, even when in plural: "Medals of Honor".
+*:It is both a common noun and a part of a proper noun phrase for a particular award. For instance (for a much more famous award) the word "prize" is a common English word, but yet the name of the Nobel Prize is "Nobel Prize", with capitals on both of its words. The words "medal" and "honor" are common English words, but yet the name of the [[Medal of Honor]] is capitalized, even when in plural: "Medals of Honor". The word "professor" is a common English word, but yet it appears capitalized when part of a proper noun phrase like [[Sedleian Professor of Natural Philosophy]].
 *:One issue is that Frostly's link only shows the short name of this award, "ACM Fellow". But one can find the longer name "Fellow of the Association for Computing Machinery" on other pages controlled by the association such as [https://awards.acm.org/about]. The fact that there is both a longer name and a shorter name is also not contradictory to other practice on Wikipedia; consider for example the person with the longer name Ellas Otha Bates and the shorter name [[Bo Diddley]]. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 07:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)