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== Title misinterpretation == |
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From casual observation over the years, I don't think this guideline is phrased intuitively. "Assumption of good faith" is often interpreted, especially by those new to it, as similar to a "blind faith". Most importantly with something like, "I do not have access to the source so I 'assume good faith'", even though that's not how it's meant to be applied. Or, less often, when a bad actor insists that trust in their faith should be immutable even when there is evidence that doubts them. |
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More appropriate, I think, would be something like "'''presume good intent'''". The point of intent instead of faith is to not encourage the association with "blind faith", and the point of presumption instead of assumption allows for the fact that this is a starting place, and to make an effort to understand, request/clarify, understand, and incorporate the evidence rather than guessing when there is none. Both get closer to the heart of the principle than "assume good faith". <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 08:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Czar|Czar]], I think you're right. For a smaller (and thus potentially more palatable) change, I think that [[Wikipedia:Assume good intentions]] might work. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 21:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== good faith? == |
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Title misinterpretation
From casual observation over the years, I don't think this guideline is phrased intuitively. "Assumption of good faith" is often interpreted, especially by those new to it, as similar to a "blind faith". Most importantly with something like, "I do not have access to the source so I 'assume good faith'", even though that's not how it's meant to be applied. Or, less often, when a bad actor insists that trust in their faith should be immutable even when there is evidence that doubts them.
More appropriate, I think, would be something like "presume good intent". The point of intent instead of faith is to not encourage the association with "blind faith", and the point of presumption instead of assumption allows for the fact that this is a starting place, and to make an effort to understand, request/clarify, understand, and incorporate the evidence rather than guessing when there is none. Both get closer to the heart of the principle than "assume good faith". czar 08:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Czar, I think you're right. For a smaller (and thus potentially more palatable) change, I think that Wikipedia:Assume good intentions might work. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
good faith?
The only way for anything that's not endorsed by USA to appear on wikipedia is through vandalism. 79.167.189.17 (talk) 01:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Why have you removed my edits
I know the figure was inaccurate but that’s what they provided as a source, here is the real figures https://www.oocities.org/~dagmawi/History/Ethiopia-Egypt-War.html And the causalities were unknown, no numbers were provided, there was no one captured or figures of wounded and Ethiopians didn’t keep written records of their causalities number and their army size was 80000 not 60000. Who is making those edits ? And why is no one checking the citations provided. They make up a figure and put a link that doesn’t have anything to do with the numbers 178.164.236.201 (talk) 16:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- You are African or Ethiopian aren’t you? 178.164.236.201 (talk) 16:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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Change administerial actions to actions by administrators. 92.30.146.64 (talk) 22:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Not done: The term "administerial" is being used correctly, and so this appears to be an issue of taste. Nothing wrong with prefering a different wording, but for changing a section title of an official guideline of this project, I'm thinking it's best left to consensus or the standard bold, revert, discuss cycle. —Sirdog (talk) 03:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC)