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Kansas Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence

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Subject does not meet NORG - there is insufficient coverage in depth from reliable secondary sources to warrant inclusion. The only two references within are routine coverage. MaxnaCarta (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Kansas. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

• Keep I am adding more sources to the article but considering it is a local organization and one of the largest domestic abuse support groups in Kansas I believe it meets the criteria for inclusion. Des Vallee (talk) 16:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

  It is not satisfactory to say "it's a large domestic abuse support group" and therefore meets criteria for inclusion. You actually need to point out which sources cover the article subject in-depth. This article needs to meet NORG in order to warrant inclusion and a thorough WP:BEFORE check shows plenty of small routine coverage "hits" but this does not justify inclusion. Even a local business often will populate a number of hits in a search engine. We need evidence of sustained, indepth coverage. Not hits here and there briefly mentioning the name of the organisation. MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

  This source for example does not count towards notability. It simply says Jessa Farmer, public policy coordinator for the Kansas Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence, said current Kansas statute left victims who endured years of violence to refile annually for extension of a protection order. She said the burden was on victims to navigate the court system, often without legal representation due to a shortage of attorneys in Kansas willing to take these cases.

  That is the epitome of "routine" and trivial coverage. The article has nothing to do with the organisation itself. It's about domestic abuse and they've just quoted someone from this organisation. That does not substantiate a claim to notability. MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

  MaxnaCarta This source per example is entirely about the Kansas Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence, a quick search shows it has been mentioned at least 245 times by reliable sources. Des Vallee (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  That’s one source and not of sufficient depth to meet MNCORP. 245 hits means nothing unless the coverage is significant. Trivial mentions are not sufficient to meet NCORP. MaxnaCarta (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• keep passes WP:GNG. A quick search of news articles shows a measureable number of good sources.--Paul McDonald (talk)

@Paulmcdonald: Please list the best three sources you believe are reliable, secondary sources that demonstrate significant coverage so I can withdraw the nomination? MaxnaCarta (talk) 23:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Sigh. Click the "news link and you'll see plenty.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Delete - sources which are in-depth about the organization do not seem to exist. Lots of mentions, but fails WP:GNG and WP:ORGDEPTH.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)