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http://web.archive.org/web/20080706170406/http://www.old-church-galleries.com/stock_7336.asp details "A fine and rare proof engraving of the House of Lords interior. The scene relates to the time when Caroline Brunswick, estranged wife of King George IV was brought before the House of Lords following her husband’s accession to the Throne. The Pains and Penalties Bill 1820 was introduced in Parliament in order to strip Caroline of the title of Queen and dissolve her marriage to the King on the grounds that Caroline had been involved with a man called Bartolomeo Bergami, ("a foreigner of low station") in a most degrading intimacy." Why is there no mention of this episode in the article? [[Special:Contributions/2.31.162.47|2.31.162.47]] ([[User talk:2.31.162.47|talk]]) 00:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
http://web.archive.org/web/20080706170406/http://www.old-church-galleries.com/stock_7336.asp details "A fine and rare proof engraving of the House of Lords interior. The scene relates to the time when Caroline Brunswick, estranged wife of King George IV was brought before the House of Lords following her husband’s accession to the Throne. The Pains and Penalties Bill 1820 was introduced in Parliament in order to strip Caroline of the title of Queen and dissolve her marriage to the King on the grounds that Caroline had been involved with a man called Bartolomeo Bergami, ("a foreigner of low station") in a most degrading intimacy." Why is there no mention of this episode in the article? [[Special:Contributions/2.31.162.47|2.31.162.47]] ([[User talk:2.31.162.47|talk]]) 00:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
:There is. In fact, it's the bulk of the article and there are four pictures of it. [[User:DrKay|DrKay]] ([[User talk:DrKay|talk]]) 08:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
:There is. In fact, it's the bulk of the article and there are four pictures of it. [[User:DrKay|DrKay]] ([[User talk:DrKay|talk]]) 08:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

== in the Jupiter or on the Jupiter ==

In the Engagement section, it stated 'Caroline and Malmesbury left Cuxhaven in the Jupiter.' I Googled 'in a ship or on a ship' and the general consensus appears to be that passengers are on a ship whilst cargo is in a ship (and even then not always). I have therefor made what I've marked as a minor edit. As this is a page of an important historic figure, which has been the subject of some shenanigans in the past, I thought it important to document. [[User:Adagio67|Adagio67]] ([[User talk:Adagio67|talk]]) 09:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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Pains and Penalties Bill 1820

ODNB says ". . . convince many peers of her guilt, many also feared that her condemnation would spark off popular rioting or even revolution. Ministers realized that even if the Lords passed the bill the House of Commons would almost certainly reject it under intense pressure from their constituents. The bill passed its third reading in the Lords by only nine votes and Liverpool, the prime minister, announced on 10 November that it would proceed no further. SOURCE: E. A. Smith, ‘Caroline (1768–1821)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford Universityy Press, 2004 accessed 30 Sept 2006.

Why does WP think the Bill was defeated?

Did she play cricket for England?88.211.22.56 (talk) 11:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

---Vernon White

text corrected.Ekem 14:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Lushington

There seems to be a conflict between the narrative on this page and of that on the page of Stephen Lushington johnnybriggs (talk) 08:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Brougham

... Henry Brougham (pronounced "broom", "brew-am", or "bro'am")....

Do we mean it was pronounced three ways, or that we're not sure how it was pronounced? Sca (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I boldly removed it, it's not even listed three ways on Brougham's own wikipedia article. Tkech (talk) 11:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recently the file File:Caroline Amelia Elizabeth of Brunswick by Sir George Hayter.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 02:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Complaints to the BBC.

Given the vandalism was encouraged by the BBC Cricket coverage, I think it is fair to point to the BBC Complaints homepage. I know I will be submitting a complaint about this matter. Catwhoorg (talk) 13:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've read through the BBC Cricket coverage and, although they show an image of the vandalism, I don't really think the BBC encouraged people to vandalise this entry Si1965 (talk) 15:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If people are going to be taken in by such irreverence, and indeed if "Catwhoorg" is going to persist in believing that people are going to taken in by the possibility that Caroline of Brunswick was the lover of Shane Warne, I should let them. It says more about those being taken in, than those people who are just having a laugh. Do you really think anyone, regardless of whether or not they have heard of C of B, would use wikipedia to discover if she had any connection to (as the same BBC Cricket forum put it) the "Varnished Weeble"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 7thTricky (talkcontribs) 09:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bartolomeo Bergami

http://web.archive.org/web/20080706170406/http://www.old-church-galleries.com/stock_7336.asp details "A fine and rare proof engraving of the House of Lords interior. The scene relates to the time when Caroline Brunswick, estranged wife of King George IV was brought before the House of Lords following her husband’s accession to the Throne. The Pains and Penalties Bill 1820 was introduced in Parliament in order to strip Caroline of the title of Queen and dissolve her marriage to the King on the grounds that Caroline had been involved with a man called Bartolomeo Bergami, ("a foreigner of low station") in a most degrading intimacy." Why is there no mention of this episode in the article? 2.31.162.47 (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is. In fact, it's the bulk of the article and there are four pictures of it. DrKay (talk) 08:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

in the Jupiter or on the Jupiter

In the Engagement section, it stated 'Caroline and Malmesbury left Cuxhaven in the Jupiter.' I Googled 'in a ship or on a ship' and the general consensus appears to be that passengers are on a ship whilst cargo is in a ship (and even then not always). I have therefor made what I've marked as a minor edit. As this is a page of an important historic figure, which has been the subject of some shenanigans in the past, I thought it important to document. Adagio67 (talk) 09:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]