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CNN is reporting that "No survivors" were found at the crash site. They are citing both IRINN and Mehr News. https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash/h_84e1c9ad10338418fd5540d8f7723cc6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coasterghost (talk • contribs) 03:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brother you just added a new section instead of adding a topic, moreover I think that this should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M Waleed (talk • contribs) 04:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Threats to the diaspora and to anti-regime protesters and subsequent legal consequences

Just days before the incident in London, there was an incident in the DC area where diaspora members protesting a memorial to Raisi received death threats from someone who turned out to be an employee of the Iranian Special Interests Section of the Embassy of Pakistan. The staffer, Ramezan Soltan-Mohammadi, has received a temporary restraining order from the Maryland court system that prevents him from coming close to at least one protest leader's home and workplace. A group comprised of members of the diaspora has taken him to court, and the case is ongoing. 100.15.173.239 (talk) 22:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source? - ZLEA _T\^C 23:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202405286086 100.15.173.239 (talk) 01:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technically not an article, but an opinion piece in The Hill has also mentioned the incident: https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4696456-why-does-iran-still-have-operatives-in-washington/ 100.15.173.239 (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another source following more developments on this case: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202406188444 100.15.173.239 (talk) 04:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced that these incidents are within the scope of this article, of which the primary topic is the crash itself. Threats against people protesting a commemoration of one of the victims of the crash would likely be a bit WP:OFFTOPIC. I'm not against a brief mention of the threats in this article, but any in-depth coverage should probably be in Interests Section of Iran in the United States or another article more closely related to the threats themselves. - ZLEA _T\^C 06:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, it'd probably be at most a short statement, comparable to the description of the London incident already in the article. 100.15.173.239 (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add this hypothesis to end of domestic reactions

On social media platforms, Iranians and Iranian exiles are speculating that Raisi's death was an assassination carried out by members of the Islamic Republic, frequently using the terms "removed" or "deleted". One popular theory is that Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the Supreme Leader, was connected to the death. The premise that runs through most of these posts is that Raisi may have been a contender in the unofficial, unspoken race to become the next ruler of the Islamic Republic and therefore had to be "removed". "In Iran's conspiratorial political culture, few will believe that Raisi's death was an accident," Karim Sadjadpour of the Carnegie Endowment for Peace posted on X on Sunday night, hours before Raisi's death was confirmed.^[1] The many violent and unexplained deaths in the Islamic Republic's 45-year history add to the speculation.^[2] Another reason for speculation is that the pictures of the accident scene published by the official Iranian media were from another accident a few years ago.^[3] Jason Rezaian, a journalist and former hostage of the Islamic Republic, thinks that the most likely cause of this fatal helicopter crash is that it was an accident that most likely happened because a large part of the Islamic Republic is in an advanced state of decay and points to the extremely high number of deaths from traffic accidents in Iran.^[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by EiersalatmitGurken (talk • contribs) 09:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
^ "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
^ "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
^ "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.

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2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash → Varzaqan helicopter crash – If there was no helicopter crash around Varzaqan before, I do not see any reason why should 2024 be specific in the article title. Cmsth11126a02 (talk) 15:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose – I'll give you a reason for having 2024 in the title: clarity. It immediately gives the reader the 'when' without sacrificing brevity. You cannot argue that 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash is not concise, and it makes it immediately clear that the event is not some accident from the Sixties or something. Titling an article is not a contest to see who comes up with the shortest possible title that is logically unambiguous. --Deeday-UK (talk) 16:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.

[2] "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.

[3] "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.

[4] "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.

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 [[:2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash]] → {{no redirect|Varzaqan helicopter crash}} – If there was no helicopter crash around Varzaqan before, I do not see any reason why should 2024 be specific in the article title. [[User:Cmsth11126a02|Cmsth11126a02]] ([[User talk:Cmsth11126a02|talk]]) 15:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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+* '''Oppose''' – I'll give you a reason for having 2024 in the title: clarity. It immediately gives the reader the 'when' without sacrificing brevity. You cannot argue that ''2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash'' is not concise, and it makes it immediately clear that the event is not some accident from the Sixties or something. Titling an article is not a contest to see who comes up with the shortest possible title that is logically unambiguous. --[[User:Deeday-UK|Deeday-UK]] ([[User talk:Deeday-UK|talk]]) 16:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)