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== Emblem ==
== Horses ==


Wild horses have been reintroduced to their original home in Kazakhstan for the first time in centuries.<ref>BBC Global News Podcast 13 June 2024</ref> [[User:Benjaminikuta|Benjamin]] ([[User talk:Benjaminikuta|talk]]) 21:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [[User:Benjaminikuta|Benjamin]] ([[User talk:Benjaminikuta|talk]]) 21:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
See [[Talk:Emblem of Kazakhstan#not correct emblem of Kazakhstan]] for discussion. I'm seeing {{ping|Rkt2312}} replacing with the wrong one twice.
Official sources [https://senate.parlam.kz/en-US/statesymbols senate], [https://egov.kz/cms/en/information/state_agencies/state_symbols egov]. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 22:04, 21 October 2023 (UTC)


:Added this[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/14/wild-przewalskis-horses-return-to-kazakhstan-after-200-years#:~:text=Przewalski's%20horses%20have%20returned%20to,once%20roamed%20across%20Central%20Asia.]. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 22:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
:I uploaded [[:File:Emblem of Kazakhstan 3d.svg]] and swapped that in. I think part of the prior dispute was a lack of the svg version? Hope this helps, and I'll self-revert if requested. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 22:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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::{{re|Firefangledfeathers}} hey you forgot the white background, can you fix that? [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 09:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
:::I think I fixed it. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 14:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] The quality of the current file is a traced bitmap, and not a true SVG. [[Special:Contributions/71.239.86.150|71.239.86.150]] ([[User talk:71.239.86.150|talk]]) 22:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Firefangledfeathers}} thanks that's great! [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 22:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
::A higher quality vector file is available at [https://vector-images.com/image.php?epsid=27813]. (parameter required, see [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Template:Vector-Images.com_(2nd_request)#Third._Copyright_status] [[Special:Contributions/71.239.86.150|71.239.86.150]] ([[User talk:71.239.86.150|talk]]) 13:56, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


:: Thanks. But I'm curious why you found the BBC unreliable without even saying anything? [[User:Benjaminikuta|Benjamin]] ([[User talk:Benjaminikuta|talk]]) 17:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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:It's because the reference was not correct with no context. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 15:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
A recent edit removed a modifier before the 4% figure for some area .Kazakhstan is not a country, it was a continent 10000000 years ago. I question this removal since the removal gives a false sense of exactness. What is the consensus? [[User:Kdammers|Kdammers]] ([[User talk:Kdammers|talk]]) 17:45, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
:: What do you mean, how is it wrong? [[User:Benjaminikuta|Benjamin]] ([[User talk:Benjaminikuta|talk]]) 23:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
:Well, you haven't described the recents edits correctly. That's not what's happened. The first sentence of the article ends with the statement that Kazakhstan is "...mostly in Central Asia, with a small part in Eastern Europe". There is a longstanding footnote to this sentence which says: "About 4% of Kazakhstan's territory, west of the Ural River, lies in Eastern Europe." A source was given for this percentage. Eight days ago a new editor, with currently 193 edits, decided to ignore that source and without an edit summary add to "about 4%" the following additional unsourced qualification "By some definitions, about 4% ...". that gives the impression that other definitions say it is a different percentage. No source has been given for a different percentage. Today, that was reverted and the longstanding sourced version was restored. 59 minutes later the above message, which makes no sense, was posted. The longstanding and now restored version includes the "about" modifier. The reverted unsourced version includes the "about" modifier. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 22:55, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


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== Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2024 ==
== Kazakh famine of 1919–1922 ==


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The History section forget to talk about the [[Kazakh famine of 1919–1922]]. There are mentions about the [[Kazakh famine of 1930–1933]] but not the first one. It is important in the Kazakh history and the article need to mention it. But I can't do it myself because I don't have an account and this article is semi-protected. Can someone add it please? Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2A01:E0A:D09:A780:504B:BF09:1A6D:BA22|2A01:E0A:D09:A780:504B:BF09:1A6D:BA22]] ([[User talk:2A01:E0A:D09:A780:504B:BF09:1A6D:BA22|talk]]) 13:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


The page says " Kazakh people, derives from Russian: казах." It is not true. Kazakh work derives from Turkic origin, is thought to mean “free man” [[Special:Contributions/12.47.48.228|12.47.48.228]] ([[User talk:12.47.48.228|talk]]) 20:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
== Renaming Astana ==


:Pretty sure that in that instance, "Kazakh comes from Russian" was actually meant to say that the spelling of the ethnic group's name came from Russian, as in "if the name was taken from Kazakh, it'd have been "Qazaq" or "Kazak", and not "kazaKH"". That "Kh" at the end is the thing that comes from Russian, not the name "Қазақ" itself. [[User:Malik Nursultan B|Nursultan Malik]]<sup>([[User talk:Malik Nursultan B|talk]])</sup> 00:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
I think the sentence saying in 2022 the current president names the city after his predecessor is not clear.


: [[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;'''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp -->
When the city changed to Nur Sultan it reflected the first president. When the name was restored to Astana the name of the first president was being removed.
:Is it unreasonable to suppose that English speakers picked up their knowledge of Kazakhs through Russians with whom they were more likely to have had direct contact than from Kazakhs themselves? [[User:Largoplazo|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 01:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2024 ==
So saying in 2022 it was named after his predecessor is inaccurate. [[User:Malemke|Malemke]] ([[User talk:Malemke|talk]]) 05:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


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== Edit request ==
I want to make a Infobox about alternative countries[[Special:Contributions/2601:601:D481:8140:15A0:698A:11E:305E|2601:601:D481:8140:15A0:698A:11E:305E]] ([[User talk:2601:601:D481:8140:15A0:698A:11E:305E|talk]]) 23:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Europe ==
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Please revert [[special:diff/1217287981|this]] unexplained edit, as it contradicts [[Kazakhstan#Languages|the article's body]]. [[Special:Contributions/212.3.150.115|212.3.150.115]] ([[User talk:212.3.150.115|talk]]) 13:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The user reverted his own edit. <code><nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>'''[[User:CanonNi]]'''<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki></code> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 13:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> {{u|CanonNi}}, the IP was referring to the later edit, in which the editor removed Russian from the infobox ''again''. [[User:Liu1126|Liu1126]] ([[User talk:Liu1126|talk]]) 13:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
::In that case I'm very sorry for my mistake, and thank you for fixing it. I didn't see the full edit history and wrongly assumed that the edit in question was the only edit made by the user. <code><nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>'''[[User:CanonNi]]'''<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki></code> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 13:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


{{ping|Are2The2}} Please make your case on the talk page first. The body states that part of Kazakhstan is in Europe and this is supported by current sourcing. We cannot write that it is only sometimes considered to be partly in Europe in the lead when the rest of the article does not say this. To claim that most sources do not consider Kazakhstan to be partly in Europe requires a good amount of evidence.
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== Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2024 ==


I have reverted you already and you were earlier reverted by [[User:Beshogur]]. Please refrain from restoring your changes. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk|talk]]) 14:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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[[User:Steve Earls|Steve Earls]] ([[User talk:Steve Earls|talk]]) 03:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)It was inhabited by Africans who first migrated from the horn of Africa 109,000 years ago.
== Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2024 ==
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In the political system section, there is a line: "sixteen principal administrative divisions (fourteen regions plus the cities of Astana, Almaty, and Şymkent)."
That is an obvious mistake. It must be either seventeen or twenty in total, not sixteen, especially considering that in the administrative divisions section, there are 17 regions and 3 towns. [[Special:Contributions/2.133.185.121|2.133.185.121]] ([[User talk:2.133.185.121|talk]]) 15:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp -->{{snd}}[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 21:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
::You don't need a reliable source to prove that 14 + 3 isn't 16 and that the sentence is therefore incorrect. [[User:Largoplazo|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 21:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
::: Two things: one, I think I owe myself a {{self-trout}} for not looking at the article's sources—or even the article—before replying, but, two, the existing source mentioning regions claims there are indeed only 16 regions ({{tq|14 regions (oblasts) and 2 'cities of republican significance' |q=y |title="Kazakhstan, Unitary County"}}).<ref>{{cite web |title=Kazakhstan, Unitary County|url=https://www.oecd.org/regional/regional-policy/profile-Kazakhzstan.pdf |publisher=OECD |date=October 2016 |access-date=9 November 2024 |url-status=deviated |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180206190320/https://www.oecd.org/regional/regional-policy/profile-Kazakhzstan.pdf |archive-date=6 February 2018}}</ref> Yes, you do not need a [[WP:Reliable Source|RS]] to do basic math (and yes I should've looked at the article), but the 16 figure is the correct one.<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord]] ([[User talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|contribs]]) 22:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::[https://www.akorda.kz/en/republic_of_kazakhstan/kazakhstan There are 17 regions and 3 cities of national importance]. That is 20 in total. Your reference is too old and doesn't include 3 new regions added in 2022 as well as the status of Shymkent as a city of national importance granted in 2018. [[Special:Contributions/2.72.147.212|2.72.147.212]] ([[User talk:2.72.147.212|talk]]) 19:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
::::: Okay. {{in progress}}: An editor is implementing the requested edit.<!-- Template:ESp -->{{snd}}[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 22:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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Horses

Wild horses have been reintroduced to their original home in Kazakhstan for the first time in centuries.[1] Benjamin (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC) Benjamin (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added this[1]. Beshogur (talk) 22:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ BBC Global News Podcast 13 June 2024
Thanks. But I'm curious why you found the BBC unreliable without even saying anything? Benjamin (talk) 17:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's because the reference was not correct with no context. Beshogur (talk) 15:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean, how is it wrong? Benjamin (talk) 23:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2024

The page says " Kazakh people, derives from Russian: казах." It is not true. Kazakh work derives from Turkic origin, is thought to mean “free man” 12.47.48.228 (talk) 20:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure that in that instance, "Kazakh comes from Russian" was actually meant to say that the spelling of the ethnic group's name came from Russian, as in "if the name was taken from Kazakh, it'd have been "Qazaq" or "Kazak", and not "kazaKH"". That "Kh" at the end is the thing that comes from Russian, not the name "Қазақ" itself. Nursultan Malik(talk) 00:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
Is it unreasonable to suppose that English speakers picked up their knowledge of Kazakhs through Russians with whom they were more likely to have had direct contact than from Kazakhs themselves? Largoplazo (talk) 01:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2024

I want to make a Infobox about alternative countries2601:601:D481:8140:15A0:698A:11E:305E (talk) 23:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Largoplazo (talk) 00:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Europe

@Are2The2: Please make your case on the talk page first. The body states that part of Kazakhstan is in Europe and this is supported by current sourcing. We cannot write that it is only sometimes considered to be partly in Europe in the lead when the rest of the article does not say this. To claim that most sources do not consider Kazakhstan to be partly in Europe requires a good amount of evidence.

I have reverted you already and you were earlier reverted by User:Beshogur. Please refrain from restoring your changes. Mellk (talk) 14:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2024

In the political system section, there is a line: "sixteen principal administrative divisions (fourteen regions plus the cities of Astana, Almaty, and Şymkent)." That is an obvious mistake. It must be either seventeen or twenty in total, not sixteen, especially considering that in the administrative divisions section, there are 17 regions and 3 towns. 2.133.185.121 (talk) 15:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 21:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need a reliable source to prove that 14 + 3 isn't 16 and that the sentence is therefore incorrect. Largoplazo (talk) 21:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two things: one, I think I owe myself a trout Self-trout for not looking at the article's sources—or even the article—before replying, but, two, the existing source mentioning regions claims there are indeed only 16 regions (14 regions (oblasts) and 2 'cities of republican significance').[1] Yes, you do not need a RS to do basic math (and yes I should've looked at the article), but the 16 figure is the correct one.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord (talk • contribs) 22:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are 17 regions and 3 cities of national importance. That is 20 in total. Your reference is too old and doesn't include 3 new regions added in 2022 as well as the status of Shymkent as a city of national importance granted in 2018. 2.72.147.212 (talk) 19:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay.  In progress: An editor is implementing the requested edit. – Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 22:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done by Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤), 22:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Kazakhstan, Unitary County" (PDF). OECD. October 2016. Archived from the original (PDF) on 6 February 2018. Retrieved 9 November 2024.
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