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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 September 2024

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They were terrorists not militants 86.169.230.76 (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bunnypranav (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the terrorists did not demand the release of Andreas Baader of RAF in their communiqué

As shown by Anna Greithanner, Dominik Aufleger and Robert Wolff in 2022 when they found a copy of the original communiqué in the Bavarian State Archives the terrorists of Black September did not demand the release of Andreas Baader but only of Ulrike Meinhof. Their article as showed that the formerly published number of to be released prisoners of about 236 was wrong since the list includes the names of 328. Thus the article should correct this mistake by removing Andreas Baader and including a section about common micsonceptions regarding the demands of Black September.

Link to the original german article: https://zeitgeschichte-online.de/kommentar/andreas-baader-ulrike-meinhof-und-hunderte-palaestinenserinnen and link to a (official) website including an upload of the original demands: https://www.erinnerungsort-fuerstenfeldbruck1972.de/en/police-operation-de 2003:102:B701:ED00:5534:EF4:F44F:E655 (talk) 16:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections made to show the "original communiqué" cited does in fact only list the name of Ulrike Meinhof and not that of Andreas Baader, plus add inline citation/reference. Nightsturm (talk) 21:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

grammatical errors

Ultimatum section: "Shortly before 5:00 am, the Munich police, the organizing committee, and paramedics were alerted. Ambulances arrived, and the blood-soaked Weinberg that the terrorists had thrown in front of the apartment building entrance (Connollystraße 31), who could not be saved, was recovered." This is poorly written overall but at a minimum change 'that' to who, in reference to a person.

News wire section: "Initial news reports published all over the world, indicated that all the hostages were alive and that all the attackers had been killed." This is not a grammatical sentence and is confusing as written. Most easily corrected with a comma after 'reports'. 2601:445:801:6F30:6168:FC43:BB71:8DA9 (talk) 07:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Engvar

The article appears to have started in UK English ("armoured") and to now be a mixture of spellings. I propose to standardise it on the original version, per MOS:RETAIN. Any objections? John (talk) 08:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'm done. There is still a lot of repetition in the article, and the section on Anton Fliegerbauer should probably either be a standalone article, or should be removed. John (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've just seen Talk:Munich massacre/Archive 4#Merger proposal. It seems this material was merged here a couple of yeas ago. Would we favour recreating it as an article, or removing it? Some of it is duplicative and most of the rest probably fails WP:NOTMEMORIAL. What do folks think? John (talk) 23:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 November 2024

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In the Ultimatum section of Ultimatum, negotiations and first rescue effort, last line of fourth paragraph, change "Minister of Defence" to "Minister of Defense" ParkerSolar (talk) 00:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: both are correct and no valid reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 01:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 September 2024 ==
-== More institutional antisemitism from Wikipedia ==
+{{Edit extended-protected|Munich massacre|answered=yes}}
-Terrorists tortured and murdered eleven athletes. Irrefutable history. Full stop.
+They were terrorists not militants [[Special:Contributions/86.169.230.76|86.169.230.76]] ([[User talk:86.169.230.76|talk]]) 20:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
+:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:Bunnypranav|Bunnypranav]] ([[User talk:Bunnypranav|talk]]) 14:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
+== the terrorists did not demand the release of Andreas Baader of RAF in their communiqué ==
-None of this "2 were killed and 9 happened to die later whoopsie" minimizing crap.
+As shown by Anna Greithanner, Dominik Aufleger and Robert Wolff in 2022 when they found a copy of the original communiqué in the Bavarian State Archives the terrorists of Black September did not demand the release of Andreas Baader but only of Ulrike Meinhof. Their article as showed that the formerly published number of to be released prisoners of about 236 was wrong since the list includes the names of 328.
-Revisionist antisemites are torching Wikipedia's credibility in real time.
+Thus the article should correct this mistake by removing Andreas Baader and including a section about common micsonceptions regarding the demands of Black September.
-[[Special:Contributions/2601:182:D000:8050:659F:65A7:C08F:E37|2601:182:D000:8050:659F:65A7:C08F:E37]] ([[User talk:2601:182:D000:8050:659F:65A7:C08F:E37|talk]]) 06:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
+Link to the original german article: https://zeitgeschichte-online.de/kommentar/andreas-baader-ulrike-meinhof-und-hunderte-palaestinenserinnen
-== Edit request, and a question about conflicting info ==
+and link to a (official) website including an upload of the original demands: https://www.erinnerungsort-fuerstenfeldbruck1972.de/en/police-operation-de [[Special:Contributions/2003:102:B701:ED00:5534:EF4:F44F:E655|2003:102:B701:ED00:5534:EF4:F44F:E655]] ([[User talk:2003:102:B701:ED00:5534:EF4:F44F:E655|talk]]) 16:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
+:Corrections made to show the "original communiqué" cited does in fact only list the name of Ulrike Meinhof and not that of Andreas Baader, plus add inline citation/reference. [[User:Nightsturm|Nightsturm]] ([[User talk:Nightsturm|talk]]) 21:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
-In "Surviving Black September members," under "Abu Daoud", it should be clarified that according to the source, the PLO (etc.) were protesting Daoud's arrest--currently it looks like they were protesting France sending him to Algeria before Germany could get him. I have already corrected this on Daoud's article itself, which had the same text. Additionally, here it is implied that France was trying to get him off their hands before Germany could get the correct paperwork in order, but above in the final paragraph of "Alleged German Cover-up", the article states that the Barvarian government intentionally did not act after France asked whether they intended to extradite. Which of these is true? [[Special:Contributions/204.134.245.226|204.134.245.226]] ([[User talk:204.134.245.226|talk]]) 18:39, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
-== Torture ==
+== grammatical errors ==
+Ultimatum section:
-This article is light on the mention of torture, which is a critical detail about such an event. The NYT article that mentions beatings also says that one of the victims was castrated alive. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:88B0:6090:A1E1:8FD7:2029:F8A2|2600:1700:88B0:6090:A1E1:8FD7:2029:F8A2]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:88B0:6090:A1E1:8FD7:2029:F8A2|talk]]) 18:44, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
+"Shortly before 5:00 am, the Munich police, the organizing committee, and paramedics were alerted. Ambulances arrived, and the blood-soaked Weinberg that the terrorists had thrown in front of the apartment building entrance (Connollystraße 31), who could not be saved, was recovered."
-:That is already mentioned in the article, sourced to the NYT, after he was dead. ([[User:Hohum|<b style="color: Green;">Hohum</b>]] [[User talk:Hohum|<sup style="color: Red;">@</sup>]]) 19:52, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
+This is poorly written overall but at a minimum change 'that' to who, in reference to a person.
+News wire section:
-== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 February 2024 ==
+"Initial news reports published all over the world, indicated that all the hostages were alive and that all the attackers had been killed."
+This is not a grammatical sentence and is confusing as written. Most easily corrected with a comma after 'reports'. [[Special:Contributions/2601:445:801:6F30:6168:FC43:BB71:8DA9|2601:445:801:6F30:6168:FC43:BB71:8DA9]] ([[User talk:2601:445:801:6F30:6168:FC43:BB71:8DA9|talk]]) 07:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
+== Engvar ==
-{{Edit extended-protected|Munich massacre|answered=yes}}
-Correcting Carmel Eilash's death date, he did not die during the memorial of this event. [[User:Bllasae|Bllasae]] ([[User talk:Bllasae|talk]]) 01:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
-:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 14:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
+The article appears to have started in UK English ("armoured") and to now be a mixture of spellings. I propose to standardise it on the original version, per [[MOS:RETAIN]]. Any objections? [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 08:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
-== You are missing a victim ==
+:Sounds good to me. <span class="nowrap">–[[User:CWenger|CWenger]]</span> ([[User talk:CWenger|<span style="font-family:Webdings;"><big>^</big></span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/CWenger|<span style="font-family:Webdings;"><big>@</big></span>]]) 16:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
-Moshe Weinberg wrestling coach [[Special:Contributions/72.68.204.110|72.68.204.110]] ([[User talk:72.68.204.110|talk]]) 21:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
+::I think I'm done. There is still a lot of repetition in the article, and the section on Anton Fliegerbauer should probably either be a standalone article, or should be removed. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
+::I've just seen [[Talk:Munich massacre/Archive 4#Merger proposal]]. It seems this material was merged here a couple of yeas ago. Would we favour recreating it as an article, or removing it? Some of it is duplicative and most of the rest probably fails [[WP:NOTMEMORIAL]]. What do folks think? [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
+== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 November 2024 ==
-== Edit request: mention controversy around Adidas commemorating the 1972 Munich Olympics ==
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+{{Edit extended-protected|Munich massacre|answered=yes}}
+In the Ultimatum section of '''Ultimatum, negotiations and first rescue effort''', last line of fourth paragraph, change "Minister of Defence" to "Minister of Defense" [[User:ParkerSolar|ParkerSolar]] ([[User talk:ParkerSolar|talk]]) 00:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
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+:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:EEp --> both are correct and no valid reason given for the proposed change. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 01:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
-* '''What I think should be changed''': Add a section to the article, to discuss the longer-term legacy. Within that, mention the ongoing controversy around Adidas commemorating the 1972 Munich Olympic Games - the company chose to do this via launching a new shoe, featuring Bella Hadid as a model. This is causing significant controversy within the Israeli and Jewish communities, due to Hadid's past controversies on her stance on Hamas and Palestinian political violence in general.
-* '''Why it should be changed''': The Munich Massacre has a long legacy, now with commemoration of the Munich Olympics occuring via Adidas' new shoe in 2024. Adidas is a household name in the fashion space and hence their actions and controversies hold significance. The controversy around Adidas' collaboration with a famous yet controversial model, who is perceived by some in the Jewish and Israeli communities as having problematic stances on Palestinian political violence, is an important point to record in the history of the legacy/commemoration of the Munich Massacre. It also ties into the wider discussion around the ongoing Israel-Hamas War.
-* '''References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)''': Please see this [https://www.thejc.com/news/adidas-criticised-for-collab-with-bella-hadid-on-1972-olympics-shoe-m052zjuz article by the Jewish Chronicle] about the ongoing controversy. Please see this [https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806030 article by the Jerusalem Post] highlighting a past controversy by Bella Hadid.
-[[User:Neutral Editor 645|Neutral Editor 645]] ([[User talk:Neutral Editor 645|talk]]) 11:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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-:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> — [[User:DaxServer|DaxServer]] ([[User talk:DaxServer|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServerOnMobile|m]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServerEverywhere|e]]·[[Special:Contributions/DaxServer|c]]) 11:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
-:The story has now been picked up by more mainstream news outlets, such as [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqdwpv8vw1o BBC News]. I did not mention specific changes, because I propose something more general - this incident needs to be mentioned in some way, and it would be irresponsible to propose any specific paragraph. Should I propose a specific paragraph? [[User:Neutral Editor 645|Neutral Editor 645]] ([[User talk:Neutral Editor 645|talk]]) 14:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
-:{{already done}}. Another editor has added a paragraph to the end of [[Munich massacre#Effect on the Games]]. <span class="nowrap">–[[User:CWenger|CWenger]]</span> ([[User talk:CWenger|<span style="font-family:Webdings;"><big>^</big></span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/CWenger|<span style="font-family:Webdings;"><big>@</big></span>]]) 15:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)