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== Neutral tone? == |
== Neutral tone? == |
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This page reads like Cohen's CV. [[Special:Contributions/87.112.151.26|87.112.151.26]] ([[User talk:87.112.151.26|talk]]) 14:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC) |
This page reads like Cohen's CV. [[Special:Contributions/87.112.151.26|87.112.151.26]] ([[User talk:87.112.151.26|talk]]) 14:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 11 September 2024 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved''' as nominated, no consensus for primary topic. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Bobby Cohn|Bobby Cohn]] ([[User talk:Bobby Cohn|talk]]) 19:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC) |
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[[:Danny Cohen (television executive)]] → {{no redirect|Danny Cohen (media executive)}} – The present name is outdated and inaccurate. Cohen is a media executive working with a large variety of media forms aside from just television. [[User:C at Access|C at Access]] ([[User talk:C at Access|talk]]) 15:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC) |
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[[:Danny Cohen (television executive)]] → {{no redirect|Danny Cohen (media executive)}} – The present name is outdated and inaccurate. Cohen is a media executive working with a large variety of media forms aside from just television. [[User:C at Access|C at Access]] ([[User talk:C at Access|talk]]) 15:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 14:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User talk:Reading Beans|<span style="color:#333">'''Reading Beans'''</span>]] 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Move to [[Danny Cohen]]'''. Article is getting a majority of all pageviews and is the primary topic per [[WP:PT1]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 16:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Move to [[Danny Cohen]]'''. Article is getting a majority of all pageviews and is the primary topic per [[WP:PT1]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 16:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:*'''Weak support''' per [[WP:concise]]. |
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*'''Support''' as proposed, and oppose a move to [[Danny Cohen]]—actually, it's only in the last few months that something like PT1 has been satisfied. Over a longer time period, the page views for this subject are [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2019-09&end=2024-08&pages=Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)|Danny_Cohen_(computer_scientist)|Danny_Cohen_(cinematographer) under a majority overall]. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 09:15, 25 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Second relist to discuss PT1, with one reply noting that it may be too soon (also PT2, long-term significance has not been discussed), discussion is currently split [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 14:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Do we not have a consensus per ASUKITE? [[User talk:Reading Beans|<span style="color:#333">'''Reading Beans'''</span>]] 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Support''' as proposed. I disagree a move to just base name [[Daniel Cohen]] because when we think about "Daniel Cohen", it may be referred as cinematographer, which is more notable IMO than a BBC executive. [[Special:Contributions/103.111.100.82|103.111.100.82]] ([[User talk:103.111.100.82|talk]]) 23:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Neutral tone?
[edit]This page reads like Cohen's CV. 87.112.151.26 (talk) 14:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, this needs more objective editing. Much talk of "boy wonder" and "wunderkind" - he has been called a lot of other things too, perhaps these should be included as well to give more balance? SkinheadEscapes (talk) 07:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Such as? As this a BLP anything added needs properly sourcing. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 14:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- This reads like Mr. Cohen's mother wrote it. A little neutrality please? Markhh (talk) 16:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well if you are talking about the "boy wonder" and "wunderkind" sentences, they are both sourced from quality newspaper articles. I don't really see there's anything wrong with including them as such and the overall tone seems fairly matter-of-fact. If there is critical material in reliable sources, we can include that too. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 11:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- Critical material in reliable sources duly included. Andysurtees (talk) 02:56, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 21 March 2019
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 18:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Danny Cohen (television executive) → Danny Cohen – The TV exec seems to be the primary topic? Andysmith248 (talk) 11:58, 21 March 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support this idea. Buster Reynolds (talk) 12:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Daniel Cohen disambiguation page has no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and lists three entries for men named Danny Cohen and also three for Dan Cohen (plus one for Dan Baron Cohen). The television executive is not an internationally renowned celebrity and does not have a public profile of such towering leadership and achievement as to be considered unquestionably above the other two same-named men. A similar discussion is also currently active at Talk:Dan Cohen#Requested move 21 March 2019. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:29, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Strong oppose no evidence presented and "Danny Cohen" search in GBooks shows no case for move whatsoever. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
"President of Access Entertainment" section
[edit]Hello. I would like to make the following suggestions to update the "President of Access Entertainment" section:
- In the first sentence, it is inaccurate and reductive to refer to "industrialist Len Blavatnik." Instead, please change to "businessman and philanthropist Len Blavatnik" or simply "Len Blavatnik."
- Change the second and third sentences, which vaguely refer to the company's "ambition" and how much money it "aims to invest," to the more factual and concise: "The company's stated aim was to be 'one of the world's leading independent investors in the entertainment media sector.'"[1] And follow that with an additional sentence on the entertainment categories in which the company invests: "Access Entertainment invests in content for theatre, film, television, gaming, the creator economy and the visual arts."[2]
- Please add the following sentence on Cohen's role in A24 films:
- Under Cohen's leadership, Access has invested in the production company A24, and, alongside Blavatnik, he has been named as executive producer on several A24 films, including Beau is Afraid, The Iron Claw and the Oscar-winning film The Zone of Interest.[3]
References
- ^ Szalai, Georg (12 May 2016). "Former BBC TV Boss Danny Cohen Joins Len Blavatnik to Launch Access Entertainment". The Hollywood Reporter.
- ^ "Entertainment – Access Industries". Access Industries.
- ^ Balaga, Marta (17 March 2023). "Access Entertainment Invests in Israeli Series 'Red Skies,' Co-Created by 'Euphoria's' Ron Leshem (EXCLUSIVE)". Variety.
Thanks for your attention. C at Access (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Partially done! Minus some promotional-sounding language. Likeanechointheforest (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Infobox, BBC Three, and Personal life
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello again. I have a few more edits to suggest.
- In the infobox, please change the "Known for" field from the inaccurate and overly broad "Contribution to comedy and entertainment" to the more specific "Former Director of BBC Television"
- In the "Controller of BBC Three" section, the list of TV series names at the end of the first paragraph is excessively long, so please trim by removing Lip Service and Lee Nelson's Well Good Show.
- In the "Personal life" section, please add Daniel Craig[1] after Rachel Weisz (his wife), as one of the attendees at the wedding.
- At the end of the "Personal life" section, please add the following:
- Since the October 7, 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel and the ensuing Israel-Hamas war, Cohen has been a regular contributor to The Telegraph, writing on antisemitism in the UK. In particular, he has criticized the BBC's coverage of the war, accusing the broadcaster of anti-Israel bias.[2][3][4][5]
References
- ^ Plunkett, John (16 October 2015). "Danny Cohen: the political animal who got rid of Jeremy Clarkson". The Guardian.
- ^ Rose, David (15 February 2024). "Why I had to come out against the BBC, former corporation boss reveals". The Jewish Chronicle.
- ^ "Ex-BBC chief: Network's Arabic service rife with anti-Israel bias, support for terror". The Times of Israel. 21 May 2024.
- ^ Pope, Felix (20 November 2023). "BBC is 'institutionally antisemitic', says corporation's former director of television". The Jewish Chronicle.
- ^ Ravindran, Manori (23 May 2024). "Analysis: why no one knows how to talk about Israel and Gaza". Broadcast.
Thanks, C at Access (talk) 13:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I've adding a BBC source for that last point so that there's no question for a BLP. --Masem (t) 23:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Masem for implementing the edit request. I had two other quick thoughts:
- In the "President of Access Entertainment" section, could you add the following at the end? "He has also invested in creator economy firm Spotter, the mobile game developer Tripledot Studios, and the arts centre Lightroom." (Sources: The Times, The Stage)
- In the second paragraph of the Personal life section, the part about voting for Corbyn being like a Muslim voting for Trump - though based on an accurate quote - feels like excessive and distracting detail that doesn't add anything encyclopedic to the first part of the sentence. Would it make sense to trim that part?
- Thanks again, C at Access (talk) 14:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- added the first point, and replaced the prose with the direct quote for the second since there's more subtle meaning to it. — Masem (t) 16:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Masem for implementing the edit request. I had two other quick thoughts:
Jimmy Savile and Pollard report
[edit]Hi. I'd like to request that the "Jimmy Savile and Pollard report" section be removed. After reading through the sources, it's clear that Cohen had no direct involvement in the incident- the relevance to him personally is limited to his not reading an email he was cc'd on while working at the company. This article from The Guardian covers the entire scandal in detail and doesn't mention Cohen at all. The current paragraph alludes to more connection than there really was, which is even demonstrated in the following speculative quote: "it was at least possible that further questions..." As such, this material seems to violate WP:UNDUE and does not belong in a WP:BLP. Thanks for taking the time to look this over. C at Access (talk) 14:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, I read the sources and at least to call this a controversy around him seems excessive. — Masem (t) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Masem for implementing the edits. It is much appreciated. C at Access (talk) 21:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 11 September 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved as nominated, no consensus for primary topic. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bobby Cohn (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Danny Cohen (television executive) → Danny Cohen (media executive) – The present name is outdated and inaccurate. Cohen is a media executive working with a large variety of media forms aside from just television. C at Access (talk) 15:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Danny Cohen. Article is getting a majority of all pageviews and is the primary topic per WP:PT1. 162 etc. (talk) 16:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support per WP:concise.
- 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 13:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject University of Oxford, WikiProject BBC, and WikiProject United Kingdom have been notified of this discussion. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support as proposed, and oppose a move to Danny Cohen—actually, it's only in the last few months that something like PT1 has been satisfied. Over a longer time period, the page views for this subject are under a majority overall. Dekimasuよ! 09:15, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Second relist to discuss PT1, with one reply noting that it may be too soon (also PT2, long-term significance has not been discussed), discussion is currently split ASUKITE 14:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Do we not have a consensus per ASUKITE? Reading Beans 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support as proposed. I disagree a move to just base name Daniel Cohen because when we think about "Daniel Cohen", it may be referred as cinematographer, which is more notable IMO than a BBC executive. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 23:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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