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Section size for Fake news (95 sections)
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(Top)	8,461	8,461
Defining fake news	9,617	24,119
Roots	2,434	2,434
Popularity and viral spread	6,187	6,187
Its damaging effects	5,881	5,881
Types of fake news	1,902	1,902
Criticism of the term	5,440	5,440
Identification	4,070	6,446
Online identification	2,376	2,376
Tackling and suppression strategies	1,749	41,015
Strategies regarding the perpetrator	45	6,050
Promotion of facts over emotions	1,804	1,804
Technique rebuttal	1,053	1,053
Individual counteraction	1,790	1,790
Backfire effect	1,358	1,358
Strategies regarding carriers	38	22,084
Regulation of social media	1,787	1,787
General strategy	2,878	2,878
Fact-checking	2,286	2,286
Facebook	2,597	2,597
Google	1,902	1,902
Legal and criminal sanctions in general	10,596	10,596
Strategies regarding the recipient	42	11,132
Cognitive biases of recipient	2,059	2,059
Nudges as reflection prompts	2,518	2,518
Media critical thinking skills	515	515
Mental immune health, inoculation and prebunking markup removed; cannot link (help)	5,998	5,998
History	14	34,743
Ancient	3,878	3,878
Medieval	878	878
Early modern	3,108	3,108
19th century	3,799	3,799
20th century	7,505	7,505
21st century	15,561	15,561
Special topics	22	26,408
Deepfakes and shallowfakes	5,568	5,568
Bots on social media	9,783	9,783
Internet trolls	3,690	3,690
Fake news hoaxes	7,345	7,345
Donald Trump's misuse of term	11,821	11,821
By country	17	132,916
Europe	15	44,929
Austria	1,099	1,099
Belgium	941	941
Czech Republic	1,833	1,833
European Union	932	932
Finland	1,219	1,219
France	5,491	5,491
Germany	5,709	5,709
Hungary	1,153	1,153
Italy	2,043	2,043
Malta	2,841	2,841
Netherlands	1,384	1,384
Poland	2,164	2,164
Romania	750	750
Russia	3,252	3,252
Serbia	4,023	4,023
Spain	1,955	1,955
Sweden	1,660	1,660
Ukraine	2,575	2,575
United Kingdom	3,890	3,890
Asia	13	40,698
China	5,015	7,162
Hong Kong	2,147	2,147
India	1,064	1,064
Indonesia	7,527	7,527
Malaysia	3,619	3,619
Myanmar (Burma)	1,230	1,230
Pakistan	1,022	1,022
Philippines	6,779	6,779
Singapore	8,639	8,639
South Korea	1,669	1,669
Taiwan	1,974	1,974
Americas	18	25,987
Brazil	7,377	7,377
Canada	1,515	1,515
Colombia	4,600	4,600
Mexico	12,340	12,340
United States	137	137
Middle East and Africa	31	18,820
Armenia	961	961
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I made an account just to say this page needs work

Hello Wikipedia, normally your pages are easy to read. This one is very long and has no table of contents or way to easily navigate it. Sorry I can't help. HeretoCriticize (talk) 21:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The History section is missing the Cold War entirely...

...and should be expanded. JackTheSecond (talk) 23:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any ideas what should be added?--Jack Upland (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working on the German Service of the BBC for a while and got the impression that the BBC was broadcasting much more reliable news segments than really anyone else. By my impression, Radio propaganda seems to have been a major facet of the Cold War and the truthfulness of the various broadcasts seems to have varied by a lot.

But maybe general propaganda is outside the scope of this article. I don't really know. JackTheSecond (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say it is, its why we have a whole article on it. Slatersteven (talk) 12:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's more the amount of additional information that covering the Cold War as well that'd be a problem, probably. Though, because of how the definition at the top does include 'propaganda', maybe we can add a section and include a link to the relevant articles. JackTheSecond (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Fake News" as a thing hardly existed before 2017. There was a proposal in 2005 to delete Fake_News since "propaganda" said it all. IMO, most of the old anecdotes (history, propaganda) should be reduced to pointers to the incidents or general articles. This article should distinguish the SEVERAL usages that have emerged since November, 2016. RichardFloyd (talk) 04:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"the House of Commons commenced an inquiry"

... and then what? Did anything come of it? What's the point of mentioning it? WP:NOTNEWS. 2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265 (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The quoted section is not in the article. Neither are similar statements. JackTheSecond (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marc Bloch

As you probably know, fake news was a topic this historian dealt with while he was in the trenches in the World War: as a historian he considered that it was not enough for his profession to dismiss them as "okay they are not true, so we are not interested in them," but that they themselves should be the subject of study. Perhaps this item could be related to "fake news" topic ? 151.49.40.45 (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Origin of the term “fake news“ ==
-this article begs for an explanation of the term. Google’s Ngram indicates it began to appear in 2001 but wasn’t used much. It really took off in 2013. Can anyone suggest where it came from and why it suddenly became a buzzword? In particular, it appears to precede the Trump presidency. [[User:Humphrey Tribble|Humphrey Tribble]] ([[User talk:Humphrey Tribble|talk]]) 04:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
-:It was popularised in the [[Cardiacs]]' song ''Dive'' with the lyrics:
-:<blockquote>[[Anna Ford]] hammers a post into a cup of mud claiming it is the ground<p>Really then anything is better than that<p>Is better than watching your '''fake news''' win in the end</blockquote> [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A|2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A]] ([[User talk:2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A|talk]]) 18:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
-::I agree. The article is absent about the term "fake news" and how it became popular in history but gives an entire section for Trump.
-:What do RS say? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 10:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
-:Appears to be a rather lengthy explanation of the term in the article. [[User:Objective3000|O3000, Ret.]] ([[User talk:Objective3000|talk]]) 15:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
-:Fake News as a term jumped into the media after the election in 2016. I read an erroneous comment in the Talk pages which claimed that the term had trended up from 2013 – That is what you get if you do not change the Smoothing parameter from its default of 3 (change it to 1). The occurrence in books and journals, as charted by Google ngrams, shows a huge leap for 2017.
-:Before looking at ngrams, look at the Google search after restricting to 2016 alone: I see the top thirty hits all are in November and December.  Buzzfeed and other started a hot topic, just after the election. Donald Trump and allies were culprits. (After searching on fake news, click Tools and set the range for time.)  Here is the url for my Google search.
-:https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+news&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=d4e6502fa6e2c4f1&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2016%2Ccd_max%3A2016&tbm=#ip=1
-:Now for ngrams:  Lines below summarize the results for 1800-2019. My usage numbers are from my specified graph, which reports million-times-percent. (Google ngrams do not include the newspapers reported by the Google search above, which found news in November and December.)
-:1893 was the start of continuous non-zero years. Mostly 0.2 or so for 100 years,
-:World War years had some above 0.5.
-:2004 was the first year over 1.0 (inching up).
-:2009 had a local peak of 3.8; 2016 reached 3.6.
-:2017 to 2019:   47, 150, 160
-:https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%28fake+news+*+1000000%29&year_start=2000&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=0
-:I used the en-US-2019 corpus since Fake News is a Trump thing. He is both conduit for false information and case-0 for crying Fake News as condemnation. [[User:RichardFloyd|RichardFloyd]] ([[User talk:RichardFloyd|talk]]) 03:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
-==Wiki Education assignment: Digital Media and Information in Society==
-{{dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment | course = Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/SUNY_Polytechnic_Institute/Digital_Media_and_Information_in_Society_(Fall_2023) | assignments = [[User:DroopyB|DroopyB]] | start_date = 2023-08-28 | end_date = 2023-12-14 }}
-<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:Stevesuny|Stevesuny]] ([[User talk:Stevesuny|talk]]) 14:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)</span>
-== Use of AI as fake news as a potential subtopic? ==
-I've noticed that the article lacks most mention of any sort of use of AI used to create fake news. The article itself occasionally mentions using AI to counter it, but not to using AI to create fake news, other than briefly when talking about fake news in Mexico. Should a subtopic be made dedicated to AI creating fake news, or should it be placed in a different section? [[User:DroopyB|DroopyB]] ([[User talk:DroopyB|talk]]) 14:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
-:Do you have any sources discussing this as a wide issue? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
-::What's considered a "wide issue"? I have sources on AI misinformation and AI being used as fake news, but none of them directly call the issue a "wide" issue. [[User:DroopyB|DroopyB]] ([[User talk:DroopyB|talk]]) 14:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
-:::What I mean  is, does this violate [p[wplundue]], what major RS has taken notice of this as an issue? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
-::::What does it mean to "violate [p[wplundue]]"? [[User:Stevesuny|Stevesuny]] ([[User talk:Stevesuny|talk]]) 18:12, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
-:::::Typo, its meant to be a link to [[wp:undue]] or "demonstrate this is anything more than a narrow or finge view that is highly relevant to the topic". [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 18:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
-::There is this recent academic article which discusses this topic critically and cites a lot of material on the subject: https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/misinformation-reloaded-fears-about-the-impact-of-generative-ai-on-misinformation-are-overblown/ [[User:AcademiaObscura|AcademiaObscura]] ([[User talk:AcademiaObscura|talk]]) 13:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
-:::Interesting... [[User:Flux55|&#39;&#39;Flux55&#39;&#39;]] ([[User talk:Flux55|talk]]) 16:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 == I made an account just to say this page needs work ==
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 :Any ideas what should be added?--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 23:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
+::I've been working on the German Service of the BBC for a while and got the impression that the BBC was broadcasting much more reliable news segments than really anyone else. By my impression, [[Radio propaganda]] seems to have been a major facet of the Cold War and the truthfulness of the various broadcasts seems to have varied by a lot.
+::But maybe ''general propaganda'' is outside the scope of this article. I don't really know. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 11:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
+:::I would say it is, its why we have a whole article on it. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 12:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
+::::It's more the amount of additional information that covering the Cold War as well that'd be a problem, probably. Though, because of how the definition at the top does include 'propaganda', maybe we can add a section and include a link to the relevant articles. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
+:::::"Fake News" as a thing hardly existed before 2017. There was a proposal in 2005 to delete Fake_News since "propaganda" said it all. IMO, most of the old anecdotes (history, propaganda) should be reduced to pointers to the incidents or general articles. This article should distinguish the SEVERAL usages that have emerged since November, 2016. [[User:RichardFloyd|RichardFloyd]] ([[User talk:RichardFloyd|talk]]) 04:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
+=="the House of Commons commenced an inquiry"==
+... and then what? Did anything come of it? What's the point of mentioning it? WP:NOTNEWS. [[Special:Contributions/2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265]] ([[User talk:2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|talk]]) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
+:The quoted section is not in the article. Neither are similar statements. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 12:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
+== Marc Bloch ==
+As you probably know, fake news was a topic this historian dealt with while he was in the trenches in the World War: as a historian he considered that it was not enough for his profession to dismiss them as "okay they are not true, so we are not interested in them," but that they themselves should be the subject of study.
+Perhaps this item could be related to "fake news" topic ? [[Special:Contributions/151.49.40.45|151.49.40.45]] ([[User talk:151.49.40.45|talk]]) 20:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)