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== I made an account just to say this page needs work == |
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== Clinton / Jones photo == |
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Hello Wikipedia, normally your pages are easy to read. This one is very long and has no table of contents or way to easily navigate it. Sorry I can't help. [[User:HeretoCriticize|HeretoCriticize]] ([[User talk:HeretoCriticize|talk]]) 21:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC) |
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''Intentionally deceptive photoshopped image of Hillary Clinton over a 1977 photo of Peoples Temple cult leader Jim Jones'' |
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== The History section is missing the Cold War entirely... == |
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It should read "doctored" or "altered" rather than "photoshopped". There's nothing here to indicate any particular brand of software was used, if any, or if this manipulation was the result of conventional photographic techniques. [[Special:Contributions/24.51.192.49|24.51.192.49]] ([[User talk:24.51.192.49|talk]]) 18:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC) |
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...and should be expanded. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 23:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:Any ideas what should be added?--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 23:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::I've been working on the German Service of the BBC for a while and got the impression that the BBC was broadcasting much more reliable news segments than really anyone else. By my impression, [[Radio propaganda]] seems to have been a major facet of the Cold War and the truthfulness of the various broadcasts seems to have varied by a lot. |
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::But maybe ''general propaganda'' is outside the scope of this article. I don't really know. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 11:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::It's more the amount of additional information that covering the Cold War as well that'd be a problem, probably. Though, because of how the definition at the top does include 'propaganda', maybe we can add a section and include a link to the relevant articles. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::"Fake News" as a thing hardly existed before 2017. There was a proposal in 2005 to delete Fake_News since "propaganda" said it all. IMO, most of the old anecdotes (history, propaganda) should be reduced to pointers to the incidents or general articles. This article should distinguish the SEVERAL usages that have emerged since November, 2016. [[User:RichardFloyd|RichardFloyd]] ([[User talk:RichardFloyd|talk]]) 04:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC) |
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=="the House of Commons commenced an inquiry"== |
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... and then what? Did anything come of it? What's the point of mentioning it? WP:NOTNEWS. [[Special:Contributions/2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265]] ([[User talk:2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|talk]]) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:The quoted section is not in the article. Neither are similar statements. [[User:JackTheSecond|JackTheSecond]] ([[User talk:JackTheSecond|talk]]) 12:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC) |
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this article begs for an explanation of the term. Google’s Ngram indicates it began to appear in 2001 but wasn’t used much. It really took off in 2013. Can anyone suggest where it came from and why it suddenly became a buzzword? In particular, it appears to precede the Trump presidency. [[User:Humphrey Tribble|Humphrey Tribble]] ([[User talk:Humphrey Tribble|talk]]) 04:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Marc Bloch == |
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:It was popularised in the [[Cardiacs]]' song ''Dive'' with the lyrics: |
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:<blockquote>[[Anna Ford]] hammers a post into a cup of mud claiming it is the ground<p>Really then anything is better than that<p>Is better than watching your '''fake news''' win in the end</blockquote> [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A|2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A]] ([[User talk:2A00:23EE:1530:160D:30E8:1D87:C2BE:526A|talk]]) 18:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::I agree. The article is absent about the term "fake news" and how it became popular in history but gives an entire section for Trump. |
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:Appears to be a rather lengthy explanation of the term in the article. [[User:Objective3000|O3000, Ret.]] ([[User talk:Objective3000|talk]]) 15:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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As you probably know, fake news was a topic this historian dealt with while he was in the trenches in the World War: as a historian he considered that it was not enough for his profession to dismiss them as "okay they are not true, so we are not interested in them," but that they themselves should be the subject of study. |
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Perhaps this item could be related to "fake news" topic ? [[Special:Contributions/151.49.40.45|151.49.40.45]] ([[User talk:151.49.40.45|talk]]) 20:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:Stevesuny|Stevesuny]] ([[User talk:Stevesuny|talk]]) 14:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)</span> |
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== Use of AI as fake news as a potential subtopic? == |
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I've noticed that the article lacks most mention of any sort of use of AI used to create fake news. The article itself occasionally mentions using AI to counter it, but not to using AI to create fake news, other than briefly when talking about fake news in Mexico. Should a subtopic be made dedicated to AI creating fake news, or should it be placed in a different section? [[User:DroopyB|DroopyB]] ([[User talk:DroopyB|talk]]) 14:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:Do you have any sources discussing this as a wide issue? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC) |
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[edit]Hello Wikipedia, normally your pages are easy to read. This one is very long and has no table of contents or way to easily navigate it. Sorry I can't help. HeretoCriticize (talk) 21:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
The History section is missing the Cold War entirely...
[edit]...and should be expanded. JackTheSecond (talk) 23:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Any ideas what should be added?--Jack Upland (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've been working on the German Service of the BBC for a while and got the impression that the BBC was broadcasting much more reliable news segments than really anyone else. By my impression, Radio propaganda seems to have been a major facet of the Cold War and the truthfulness of the various broadcasts seems to have varied by a lot.
- But maybe general propaganda is outside the scope of this article. I don't really know. JackTheSecond (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would say it is, its why we have a whole article on it. Slatersteven (talk) 12:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's more the amount of additional information that covering the Cold War as well that'd be a problem, probably. Though, because of how the definition at the top does include 'propaganda', maybe we can add a section and include a link to the relevant articles. JackTheSecond (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Fake News" as a thing hardly existed before 2017. There was a proposal in 2005 to delete Fake_News since "propaganda" said it all. IMO, most of the old anecdotes (history, propaganda) should be reduced to pointers to the incidents or general articles. This article should distinguish the SEVERAL usages that have emerged since November, 2016. RichardFloyd (talk) 04:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's more the amount of additional information that covering the Cold War as well that'd be a problem, probably. Though, because of how the definition at the top does include 'propaganda', maybe we can add a section and include a link to the relevant articles. JackTheSecond (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would say it is, its why we have a whole article on it. Slatersteven (talk) 12:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
"the House of Commons commenced an inquiry"
[edit]... and then what? Did anything come of it? What's the point of mentioning it? WP:NOTNEWS. 2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265 (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- The quoted section is not in the article. Neither are similar statements. JackTheSecond (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Marc Bloch
[edit]As you probably know, fake news was a topic this historian dealt with while he was in the trenches in the World War: as a historian he considered that it was not enough for his profession to dismiss them as "okay they are not true, so we are not interested in them," but that they themselves should be the subject of study. Perhaps this item could be related to "fake news" topic ? 151.49.40.45 (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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