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Homoerotic poetry?

This guy wrote homoerotic poetry? Either this is an antisemitic slur, or the author should clarify or expound on this very intriguing statement. Thanks 2600:100E:B061:F68D:BC0F:977:758:3485 (talk) 07:47, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"The great Jewish poets of Muslim Spain, including Solomon ibn Gabirol, Samuel ibn Naghrillah and Judah Halevi, wrote homoerotic poetry."^[1]A.T.S. in Texas (talk) 21:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gilad, Elon (2 June 2016). "Judaism and Homosexuality: A Brief History". Haaretz. Retrieved 9 April 2023.

Life (ancillary fact or typo?)

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One story that encapsulates Samuel ibn Naghrillah’s political prowess takes place soon after the succession of Badis. Yidder’s (Habbus’ favorite nephew) faction told Samuel ibn Naghrillah that they wanted to overthrow the new king and wanted his support. Samuel ibn Naghrillah faked support and allowed them to hold a meeting in his house. He told Badis and allowed him to spy on the meeting. Badis wanted to execute the traders but Samuel ibn Naghrillah convinced him that it would be politically better not to. In the end he was even further respected by the king but also in good standing with the rebels.

I have no idea if the conspirators were traders by profession or not, but I suspect that the editor who created this meant traitors; however, since his source is a book, the need for a possible correction can't be easily checked out. A.T.S. in Texas (talk) 01:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate name?

The page, particularly the 'Life' section, seems to use Samuel ibn Naghrillah and Shmuel HaNagid interchangeably. Might it be better to choose one throughout (whilst mentioning the other at least once, of course!). Ministry (talk) 12:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gilad, Elon (2 June 2016). "Judaism and Homosexuality: A Brief History". Haaretz. Retrieved 9 April 2023.

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+== Homoerotic poetry? ==
+This guy wrote homoerotic poetry?  Either this is an antisemitic slur, or the author should clarify or expound on this very intriguing statement.  Thanks [[Special:Contributions/2600:100E:B061:F68D:BC0F:977:758:3485|2600:100E:B061:F68D:BC0F:977:758:3485]] ([[User talk:2600:100E:B061:F68D:BC0F:977:758:3485|talk]]) 07:47, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
+:"The great Jewish poets of Muslim Spain, including Solomon ibn Gabirol, Samuel ibn Naghrillah and Judah Halevi, wrote homoerotic poetry."<ref>{{cite news |last1=Gilad |first1=Elon |title=Judaism and Homosexuality: A Brief History |url=https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2016-06-02/ty-article-magazine/.premium/judaism-and-homosexuality-a-brief-history/0000017f-e6a5-dc7e-adff-f6adec1f0000 |access-date=9 April 2023 |publisher=Haaretz |date=2 June 2016}}</ref>[[User:A.T.S. in Texas|A.T.S. in Texas]] ([[User talk:A.T.S. in Texas|talk]]) 21:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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+== Life (ancillary fact or typo?) ==
+This paragraph in life raises a question:
+:One story that encapsulates Samuel ibn Naghrillah’s political prowess takes place soon after the succession of Badis. Yidder’s (Habbus’ favorite nephew) faction told Samuel ibn Naghrillah that they wanted to overthrow the new king and wanted his support. Samuel ibn Naghrillah faked support and allowed them to hold a meeting in his house. He told Badis and allowed him to spy on the meeting. Badis wanted to execute the '''traders''' but Samuel ibn Naghrillah convinced him that it would be politically better not to. In the end he was even further respected by the king but also in good standing with the rebels.
+I have no idea if the conspirators were traders by profession or not, but I suspect that the editor who created this meant traitors; however, since his source is a book, the need for a possible correction can't be easily checked out. [[User:A.T.S. in Texas|A.T.S. in Texas]] ([[User talk:A.T.S. in Texas|talk]]) 01:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
+== Appropriate name? ==
+The page, particularly the 'Life' section, seems to use Samuel ibn Naghrillah and Shmuel HaNagid interchangeably. Might it be better to choose one throughout (whilst mentioning the other at least once, of course!). [[User:Ministryofinformation|Ministry]] ([[User talk:Ministryofinformation|talk]]) 12:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)