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'''Plavi Marinci''' ( |
'''Plavi Marinci''' ({{lang-sr-Cyrl|Плави Маринци}}, {{lit|Blue Marines}}), or simply '''Marinci''', are the organised supporters of the [[Serbia]]n professional football club [[FK Spartak Subotica|Spartak Subotica]].<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.zurnal.rs/2012/04/20/tifo-najava-pazar-na-cika-daci-delije-pune-sever/index.html?lang=lat| title=TIFO NAJAVA: Pazar na Čika Dači, Delije pune sever (section about the Spartak - Vojvodina derby)| publisher=[[Sportski žurnal]] | accessdate=25 January 2013}}</ref> They generally support all clubs within the Spartak Subotica Sports Society and mostly wear blue and white symbols, which are also the club's colors. |
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==History== |
==History== |
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⚫ | [[FK Spartak Subotica|Spartak Subotica]] has always had its own fans base, which was formerly known as ''Plavi Golubovi'' (The Blue Pigeons). The nickname derived most likely from the glorious days of [[FK Spartak Subotica|Spartak Subotica]], in the 1940s and 1950s, where the original Spartak jerseys were pigeon blue with white sleeves. Resembling to a traditional [[Arsenal London]] shirt, of course, with different colors.<ref name=Golubovi>{{cite news | url=http://www.gradsubotica.co.rs/otkud-ime-plavi-golubovi-i-blue-marines/| title=Otkud ime "Plavi golubovi" i BLUE MARINES| publisher=GradSubotica.co.rs| accessdate=26 January 2013}}</ref> |
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⚫ | Memorable was the travel of Spartak fans to [[Vinkovci]] during the [[1987–88 Yugoslav Second League]] season for a match against Dinamo for the promotion to the [[Yugoslav First League]]. On this day celebrated a number of about two thousand Spartak fans the win of their team. From the moment when Spartak settled in the major league, the club was a tough ground for the big clubs of the former [[Yugoslav First League]]. The best witnesses based on the fact, that after a recommendation of a special committee of the major league, from the locker rooms to pitch was built a wired tunnel, through it passed the players to avoid the contact with the fiery Spartak audience. |
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⚫ | In December 1988, the first organized gathering and cheering was at the championship match against Dinamo Zagreb. In March 1989, appeared the first large transparent and the group in spite of several proposals adopted the name '''Plavi Marinci''' (Blue Marines), a small group of guys mostly from [[Prozivka]], but also from other parts of [[Subotica]], as heirs of the Spartak fans from the 1970s. The founders of the group had the idea from an Italian [[Tifo]] magazine, but today it is not clear whether the idea for the name Marinci was in question as a branch of the army, or it was the blue marine as shades of blue,<ref name="Golubovi"/> but from the beginning they mean Marinci ([[Marine (military)|Marines]]), as member of an infantry force of the [[Yugoslav Navy]]. |
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⚫ | Memorable was the travel of Spartak fans to [[Vinkovci]] during the [[1987–88 Yugoslav Second League]] season for a match against Dinamo for the promotion to the [[Yugoslav First League]]. On this day celebrated a number of about two thousand Spartak fans the win of their team. From the moment when Spartak settled in the major league, the club was a tough |
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⚫ | Since the foundation, the group has begun to gather regularly at the [[Subotica City Stadium]] to support their local club. That was the year of the trip from a larger group of Marinci to [[Osijek]] or to [[Split, Croatia|Split]] against Hajduk. Finally they travel across the whole former [[Yugoslavia]], even for a basketball match to [[Romania]]. In those years, the Marinci was a group that went on tours in numbers of about hundred people, and at the home matches a few hundred more, main from [[Prozivka]], [[Aleksandrovo, Subotica|Aleksandrova]], Radijalac, and a group of about thirty Marinci from [[Sombor]], all without any help of the club. Last cheering expansion movement took place in 1994, when Spartak reached the finals of the [[Yugoslav Cup]] against [[FK Partizan|Partizan Belgrade]], and finished the championship as fifth. Nowadays they are a relatively small group, but in the last years, and especially since the growing local patriotism in Serbian fan scene, more and more young and new generations from Subotica accepted Spartak as their only club and became its supporters. Many of the local population have now the opinion that there is nothing more beautiful than the support of his club in their own town or region, so no matter where and no matter in which league the club plays. The goal of the Marinci is to continue and encourage the local patriotism, to grow as a group and in their organization. |
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⚫ | In December 1988, the first organized gathering and cheering was at the championship match against Dinamo Zagreb. In March 1989, appeared the first large transparent and the group in spite of several proposals adopted the name '''Plavi Marinci''' (Blue Marines), a small group of guys mostly from [[Prozivka]], but also from other parts of [[Subotica]], as heirs of the Spartak fans from the 1970s. The founders of the group had the idea from an Italian [[Tifo]] magazine, but today |
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==Controversies== |
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⚫ | Since the foundation, the group has begun to gather regularly at the [[Subotica City Stadium]] to support their local club. That was the year of the trip from a larger group of Marinci to [[Osijek]] or to [[Split, Croatia|Split]] against Hajduk. Finally they travel across the whole former [[ |
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⚫ | On 29 November 2012, the Marinci came to training of [[FK Spartak Subotica|Spartak Subotica]] to criticized attacker and former Red Star youth player [[Đorđe Despotović]] because, as he visited a TV show on SOS Channel, he wore a T-shirt which stood in relation to [[Red Star Belgrade]].<ref name=sportalredstar>{{cite news| url=http://www.sportal.rs/news.php?news=87593| title=Navijači Spartaka pretili Despotoviću zbog Zvezdine majice! ("Fans of Spartak threatened Despotovic due Red Star T-shirts!")| publisher=Sportal.rs| accessdate=24 January 2013| url-status=dead| archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20130208144932/http://www.sportal.rs/news.php?news=87593| archivedate=8 February 2013}}</ref><ref name=ovajgrad>{{cite news | url=http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.294.html:408520-Marinci-Despotovicu-Ciganski-si-smrad-ne-voli-te-ovaj-grad| title="Marinci" Despotoviću: Ciganski si smrad ne voli te ovaj grad...|publisher=[[Večernje novosti]]| accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref><ref name=plavimarinci>{{cite news | url=http://kapiten.rs/fudbal/plavi-marinci-napali-despotovica-zbog-nosenja-majice-delija/| title=Plavi marinci napali Despotovića zbog nošenja majice Delija| publisher=Kapiten.rs | accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref> Other media report that he was being threatened<ref name=sportalredstar/> and he dare not out of the house.<ref name=popularnimarinci>{{cite news | url=http://www.kurir-info.rs/navijaci-spartaka-napali-despotovica-clanak-533259| title=Popularni Marinci teraju fudbalera iz tima jer se pojavio u TV emisiji u Zvezdinoj majici (Popular Marinci forced players from the team because he appeared in a TV show in the Red Star t-shirt) |publisher=[[Kurir]]| accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref> However, there was absolut no physical confrontation, but the Marinci just expressed his opinion and then leave.<ref name=plavimarinci/> The situation was calmed by coach [[Petar Kurčubić]], who agreed with the fans that Despotović made a thoughtless move, but it also reminded all of the goals that the young Serbia national team player achieved so far, suggesting that it is more important than the choice of his shirt.<ref name=plavimarinci/> Recall, Despotović scored several goals during the [[2012–13 Serbian SuperLiga|Serbian SuperLiga]] season, including one against Red Star.<ref name=plavimarinci/> The moderator asked Despotović during the broadcast, if he thought that the shirt could cause a negative reaction from fans from [[Subotica]], he replied that he believes that his appearance in the Red Star T-shirt will not cause problems at the club and that the fans do not take offense.<ref name=plavimarinci/><ref name=popularnimarinci/> Young striker of Spartak apparently misjudged the reaction of the fans.<ref name=popularnimarinci/> Despite the efforts of the club to calm the supporters, and the fact that Despotović had scored a goal in the match against Red Star, a big part of the fans was still angry on the attacker.<ref name=insulted>{{cite news | url=http://www.b92.net/sport/fudbal/vesti.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=02&nav_id=665299| title='Marinci' vređali Despotovića (Marinci insulted Despotović)|publisher=[[B92]]| accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref> During the ensuing championship match against [[FK Partizan|Partizan Belgrade]] almost every one of his ball contacts was followed by a chorus of whistles.<ref name=ovajgrad/><ref name=insulted/> He was also offended by a banner.<ref name=ovajgrad/><ref name=insulted/> Despotović said later: "I did not insulted anyone and I can not just to give up the club where I spent eight years, the club they support my whole family. In Spartak I give my maximum, because I am a professional. And tomorrow, if I go, I will proudly say that I have played for the club as much as on Red Star".<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.294.html:412948-Despotovic-Ne-mogu-tek-tako-da-se-odreknem-Zvezde| title=Despotović: Ne mogu tek tako da se odreknem Zvezde...|publisher=[[Večernje novosti]]| accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref> After that, the relations be normalized again. |
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==Friendships== |
==Friendships== |
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⚫ | The Marinci are in a brotherhood with the organized fan groups of [[FK Radnički Niš|Radnički Niš]], the [[Meraklije]].<ref name=cheeringtogether>{{cite news | url=http://www.zurnal.rs/2012/09/21/meraklije-i-marinci-zajedno-navijaju/index.html?lang=lat| title=Meraklije i Marinci zajedno navijaju (Meraklije and Marinci cheering together)| publisher=[[Sportski žurnal]] | accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref><ref name=sameside>{{cite news | url=http://www.b92.net/sport/fudbal/vesti.php?yyyy=2012&mm=09&dd=21&nav_id=645004| title=Marinci i Meraklije na istoj strani (Meraklije and Marinci on the same side)| publisher=[[B92]] | accessdate=24 January 2013}}</ref> The friendship between the Meraklije and Marinci dates back to 1994, when Spartak and Radnički played for the entering into the [[Yugoslav Cup]] final. The supporters of these clubs used the opportunity to celebrate the 20th anniversary of his fraternity by cheering together at the same stand during the first football match between the two clubs in the [[2012–13 Serbian SuperLiga]] season.<ref name=cheeringtogether/><ref name=sameside/><ref>{{cite news| url=http://kapiten.rs/fudbal/crveni-davoli-verni-vama-veruju-u-vas/| archive-url=https://archive.today/20130416120758/http://kapiten.rs/fudbal/crveni-davoli-verni-vama-veruju-u-vas/| url-status=dead| archive-date=16 April 2013| title=Crveni djavoli: Verni vama veruju u vas| publisher=Kapiten.rs| accessdate=25 January 2013}}</ref> |
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⚫ | The Marinci are in a brotherhood with the organized fan groups of [[FK Radnički Niš|Radnički Niš]], the [[Meraklije]].<ref name=cheeringtogether>{{cite news | url=http://www.zurnal.rs/2012/09/21/meraklije-i-marinci-zajedno-navijaju/index.html?lang=lat| title=Meraklije i Marinci zajedno navijaju (Meraklije and Marinci cheering together)| publisher= |
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==Notes== |
==Notes== |
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{{reflist |
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==External links== |
==External links== |
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{{Serbian Football Supporter Association}} |
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[[Category:Association football supporters]] |
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[[Category:Serbian football supporters' associations]] |
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Latest revision as of 19:37, 4 September 2024
Plavi Marinci | |
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Nickname | Golubovi (Pigeons) |
Abbreviation | PM89 |
Founded | March 1989 |
Type | Supporters' group, Ultras group |
Team | Spartak Subotica |
Headquarters | Subotica, Serbia |
Stadium | Subotica City Stadium |
Coordinates | 46°04′54.41″N 19°40′37.05″E / 46.0817806°N 19.6769583°E |
Plavi Marinci (Serbian Cyrillic: Плави Маринци, lit. 'Blue Marines'), or simply Marinci, are the organised supporters of the Serbian professional football club Spartak Subotica.[1] They generally support all clubs within the Spartak Subotica Sports Society and mostly wear blue and white symbols, which are also the club's colors.
History
[edit]Spartak Subotica has always had its own fans base, which was formerly known as Plavi Golubovi (The Blue Pigeons). The nickname derived most likely from the glorious days of Spartak Subotica, in the 1940s and 1950s, where the original Spartak jerseys were pigeon blue with white sleeves. Resembling to a traditional Arsenal London shirt, of course, with different colors.[2]
Memorable was the travel of Spartak fans to Vinkovci during the 1987–88 Yugoslav Second League season for a match against Dinamo for the promotion to the Yugoslav First League. On this day celebrated a number of about two thousand Spartak fans the win of their team. From the moment when Spartak settled in the major league, the club was a tough ground for the big clubs of the former Yugoslav First League. The best witnesses based on the fact, that after a recommendation of a special committee of the major league, from the locker rooms to pitch was built a wired tunnel, through it passed the players to avoid the contact with the fiery Spartak audience.
In December 1988, the first organized gathering and cheering was at the championship match against Dinamo Zagreb. In March 1989, appeared the first large transparent and the group in spite of several proposals adopted the name Plavi Marinci (Blue Marines), a small group of guys mostly from Prozivka, but also from other parts of Subotica, as heirs of the Spartak fans from the 1970s. The founders of the group had the idea from an Italian Tifo magazine, but today it is not clear whether the idea for the name Marinci was in question as a branch of the army, or it was the blue marine as shades of blue,[2] but from the beginning they mean Marinci (Marines), as member of an infantry force of the Yugoslav Navy.
Since the foundation, the group has begun to gather regularly at the Subotica City Stadium to support their local club. That was the year of the trip from a larger group of Marinci to Osijek or to Split against Hajduk. Finally they travel across the whole former Yugoslavia, even for a basketball match to Romania. In those years, the Marinci was a group that went on tours in numbers of about hundred people, and at the home matches a few hundred more, main from Prozivka, Aleksandrova, Radijalac, and a group of about thirty Marinci from Sombor, all without any help of the club. Last cheering expansion movement took place in 1994, when Spartak reached the finals of the Yugoslav Cup against Partizan Belgrade, and finished the championship as fifth. Nowadays they are a relatively small group, but in the last years, and especially since the growing local patriotism in Serbian fan scene, more and more young and new generations from Subotica accepted Spartak as their only club and became its supporters. Many of the local population have now the opinion that there is nothing more beautiful than the support of his club in their own town or region, so no matter where and no matter in which league the club plays. The goal of the Marinci is to continue and encourage the local patriotism, to grow as a group and in their organization.
Controversies
[edit]On 29 November 2012, the Marinci came to training of Spartak Subotica to criticized attacker and former Red Star youth player Đorđe Despotović because, as he visited a TV show on SOS Channel, he wore a T-shirt which stood in relation to Red Star Belgrade.[3][4][5] Other media report that he was being threatened[3] and he dare not out of the house.[6] However, there was absolut no physical confrontation, but the Marinci just expressed his opinion and then leave.[5] The situation was calmed by coach Petar Kurčubić, who agreed with the fans that Despotović made a thoughtless move, but it also reminded all of the goals that the young Serbia national team player achieved so far, suggesting that it is more important than the choice of his shirt.[5] Recall, Despotović scored several goals during the Serbian SuperLiga season, including one against Red Star.[5] The moderator asked Despotović during the broadcast, if he thought that the shirt could cause a negative reaction from fans from Subotica, he replied that he believes that his appearance in the Red Star T-shirt will not cause problems at the club and that the fans do not take offense.[5][6] Young striker of Spartak apparently misjudged the reaction of the fans.[6] Despite the efforts of the club to calm the supporters, and the fact that Despotović had scored a goal in the match against Red Star, a big part of the fans was still angry on the attacker.[7] During the ensuing championship match against Partizan Belgrade almost every one of his ball contacts was followed by a chorus of whistles.[4][7] He was also offended by a banner.[4][7] Despotović said later: "I did not insulted anyone and I can not just to give up the club where I spent eight years, the club they support my whole family. In Spartak I give my maximum, because I am a professional. And tomorrow, if I go, I will proudly say that I have played for the club as much as on Red Star".[8] After that, the relations be normalized again.
Friendships
[edit]The Marinci are in a brotherhood with the organized fan groups of Radnički Niš, the Meraklije.[9][10] The friendship between the Meraklije and Marinci dates back to 1994, when Spartak and Radnički played for the entering into the Yugoslav Cup final. The supporters of these clubs used the opportunity to celebrate the 20th anniversary of his fraternity by cheering together at the same stand during the first football match between the two clubs in the 2012–13 Serbian SuperLiga season.[9][10][11]
Notes
[edit]- ^ "TIFO NAJAVA: Pazar na Čika Dači, Delije pune sever (section about the Spartak - Vojvodina derby)". Sportski žurnal. Retrieved 25 January 2013.
- ^ a b "Otkud ime "Plavi golubovi" i BLUE MARINES". GradSubotica.co.rs. Retrieved 26 January 2013.
- ^ a b "Navijači Spartaka pretili Despotoviću zbog Zvezdine majice! ("Fans of Spartak threatened Despotovic due Red Star T-shirts!")". Sportal.rs. Archived from the original on 8 February 2013. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b c ""Marinci" Despotoviću: Ciganski si smrad ne voli te ovaj grad..." Večernje novosti. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b c d e "Plavi marinci napali Despotovića zbog nošenja majice Delija". Kapiten.rs. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b c "Popularni Marinci teraju fudbalera iz tima jer se pojavio u TV emisiji u Zvezdinoj majici (Popular Marinci forced players from the team because he appeared in a TV show in the Red Star t-shirt)". Kurir. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b c "'Marinci' vređali Despotovića (Marinci insulted Despotović)". B92. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ "Despotović: Ne mogu tek tako da se odreknem Zvezde..." Večernje novosti. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b "Meraklije i Marinci zajedno navijaju (Meraklije and Marinci cheering together)". Sportski žurnal. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ a b "Marinci i Meraklije na istoj strani (Meraklije and Marinci on the same side)". B92. Retrieved 24 January 2013.
- ^ "Crveni djavoli: Verni vama veruju u vas". Kapiten.rs. Archived from the original on 16 April 2013. Retrieved 25 January 2013.