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Seth Mandel AfD

Note that Seth Mandel has been nominated for deletion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Mandel - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 11:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quote from subject

This article has a leftist bias. Quote form subject: If you look at my Wikipedia entry, for example, there’s an outsized emphasis on a single tweet I posted ten years ago about nuking Hamas in the wake of a particularly brutal attack against Israeli teenage boys — framed to paint me as a genocidal lunatic. It’s part of a well-documented trend: Conservative public figures, as well as right-leaning organizations, regularly fall victim to an ideological bias that persists among Wikipedia editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.74.146.16 (talk) 21:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(I added a thread heading.) The above post contains verbatim quoting from a New York Post article that Bethany Mandel wrote on 25 June 2024 Wikipedia's lefty slant measured in new study -- but I've felt its bias firsthand. This Wikipedia article's history indicates that since then other IP editors have worked on that passage. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 17:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Belvedere

Originally, this article identified Bernie Belvedere as "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission contributor" stating that he "commented." That implies he made a comment in a particularly ethical context of that website. In reality, he did not "comment," he tweeted. And the Mediaite article being quoted for his comment actually identified him as "senior editor with The UnPopulist." Different context. The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission website has no reference to Bethany Mandel. UClaudius (talk) 23:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you look at Berny Belvedere's timeline on Twitter, he makes no mention of his association with the "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission," indicating that he does not see himself as representing that group in his tweets. Referencing his connection to that group in the context of that tweet implies an ethical capacity in his tweet that Belvedere himself apparently seeks to avoid. UClaudius (talk) 02:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Note''' that [[Seth Mandel]] has been nominated for deletion.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 09:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 **[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Mandel]] - '''''[[User:Galatz|<span style="color: #000080">Galatz גאליץ</span>]][[User_talk:Galatz|<span style="color: #FF0000"><sup>שיחה Talk</sup></span>]]''''' 11:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
+==Quote from subject==
 This article has a leftist bias. Quote form subject: If you look at my Wikipedia entry, for example, there’s an outsized emphasis on a single tweet I posted ten years ago about nuking Hamas in the wake of a particularly brutal attack against Israeli teenage boys — framed to paint me as a genocidal lunatic.
 It’s part of a well-documented trend: Conservative public figures, as well as right-leaning organizations, regularly fall victim to an ideological bias that persists among Wikipedia editors.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/217.74.146.16|217.74.146.16]] ([[User talk:217.74.146.16#top|talk]]) 21:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:(I added a thread heading.) The above post contains verbatim quoting from a New York Post article that Bethany Mandel wrote on 25 June 2024 [https://nypost.com/2024/06/25/opinion/wikipedias-lefty-bias-measured-in-study-but-ive-felt-it-firsthand/ Wikipedia's lefty slant measured in new study -- but I've felt its bias firsthand]. This Wikipedia article's history indicates that since then other IP editors have worked on that passage. [[User:Peter Gulutzan|Peter Gulutzan]] ([[User talk:Peter Gulutzan|talk]]) 17:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 == Mr. Belvedere ==
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 Originally, this article identified Bernie Belvedere as "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission contributor" stating that he "commented." That implies he made a comment in a particularly ethical context of that website. In reality, he did not "comment," he tweeted. And the Mediaite article being quoted for his comment actually identified him as "senior editor with The UnPopulist." Different context. The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission website has no reference to Bethany Mandel.
 [[User:UClaudius|UClaudius]] ([[User talk:UClaudius|talk]]) 23:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
+:Also, if you look at Berny Belvedere's timeline on Twitter, he makes no mention of his association with the "Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission," indicating that he does not see himself as representing that group in his tweets. Referencing his connection to that group in the context of that tweet implies an ethical capacity in his tweet that Belvedere himself apparently seeks to avoid. [[User:UClaudius|UClaudius]] ([[User talk:UClaudius|talk]]) 02:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)