Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip Good

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 09:22, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Phillip Good

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Non-notable statistician, article created by an WP:SPA. Last paragraph is essentially advertising. Tercer (talk) 12:10, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Tercer (talk) 12:10, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Canada and California. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Keep, AfD is not clean-up. The subject is the author of multiple textbooks in his subject, textbooks that have been independently reviewed.[1] Some of his texts have run to multiple editions over considerable periods.[2] By all means delete anything that's promotional and reformat to make the text more appropriate, but deletion is inappropriate. Elemimele (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Being a co-author of a textbook that has received a single review is very thin gruel. Now being the sole author of a textbook that has received many reviews and editions is much better, but still not enough if that's everything he's done.

I did check the 3 papers that are mentioned as his "selected publications", and they are not at all well-cited. this has 115 citations, which is rather little for medicine, and he is anyway only one coauthor of a long list of authors. this has 6 citations, which is almost nothing even for statistics, and this has 7 citations. Tercer (talk) 14:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

• Weak keep very thin mentions as above, weak pass at notability for Scholar. I think having 6 and 7 citations is still more than most academics we see here. Oaktree b (talk) 02:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

  No, 6 and 7 citations is nothing. Any random PhD student has that. WP:NPROF requires much more. Tercer (talk) 09:26, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

  I concur that 6 and 7 citations is far, far below what we expect for a WP:PROF#C1 pass. I definitely crossed that threshold well before I was done with graduate school. Nothing mentioned in this discussion so far amounts to a pass of any applicable criterion, in my opinion. Right now, I'm inclining towards a "delete" !vote, but if multiple books have been reviewed multiple times apiece, that could change (per WP:NAUTHOR and maybe WP:PROF#C4). XOR'easter (talk) 21:19, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

• weak delete the three papers that are mentioned as major achievements have very low citation counts so this will not pass WP:NPROF. He may pass WP:NAUTHOR having 2 books with one review each (which is the minimal criterion), but for one of the books he is not a sole author so I also dont see the subject passing this bar. --hroest 18:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Keep After hitting up JSTOR, I believe that WP:NAUTHOR is met for the reason I suggested above. Reviews of A Practitioner's Guide to Resampling for Data Analysis, Data Mining, and Modeling: [3][4][5]. Reviews of the co-authored Common Errors in Statistics (and How to Avoid Them): [6][7]. Review of The A-Z Of Error-Free Research: [8] ([9] is very short). Reviews of Applying Statistics in the Courtroom: A New Approach for Attorneys and Expert Witnesses: [10][11]. Reviews of Permutation, Parametric and Bootstrap Tests of Hypotheses: [12][13][14][15]. XOR'easter (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:AUTHOR and the reviews found by XOR'easter. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural relist for closing an old log, and to seek some further input on the reviews found by XOR'easter.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:15, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mathematics-related deletion discussions. A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 07:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. While the papers may not be highly cited, the textbooks seem to get a lot of citations. They also get reviews. I searched myself before noticing that XOR'easter had searched, and found an overlapping list: [16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]. The combination looks quite solid to me, and although the article is in poor shape, WP:DINC applies. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 08:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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