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Your recent edit broke most of the tables on [[Holy Roman Emperor]] - for all of them with a coat of arms, the columns don't line up with the appropriate headings.  Please fix them. [[User:Agricolae|Agricolae]] ([[User talk:Agricolae|talk]]) 17:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

: You're correct. My mistake. It should be fixed now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.--[[User:Johnn Francis|Johnn Francis]] ([[User talk:Johnn Francis#top|talk]]) 18:20, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

::Happens to everyone sometimes. [[User:Agricolae|Agricolae]] ([[User talk:Agricolae|talk]]) 18:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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I am really confused by the whole "autoconfirmed users" and "extended confirmed users" thing. Although I have currently made 753 edits with my account and, according to the "my preferences" page, I am a member of both "autoconfirmed users" and "extended confirmed users" groups, whenever I edit a page that is under "Pending changes protection" status, my edits are not automatically accepted as they should be, but instead need to be manually accepted by another user. This has happened to me twice now, on edits I made to the pages "Charlemagne" and "Sanskrit". What is even stranger is that, in the past, it used to work just fine. In fact, I made an edit to the page "Sanskrit" many months ago that was automatically accepted, but the one I made more recently was not. Why is it different now? Has Wikipedia policy changed? I have read the "Wikipedia:User access levels" and "Wikipedia: Protection policy" pages, and they do not mention anything new. Thank you in advance for your help.

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:Hi there, I think what is probably happening here is that a new user or an IP made an edit to a page that had PC protection and then you made an edit ''before'' that person's had been reviewed, so yours also became subject to review. It's a little bit of a weird system, but you can see how it works in the table [[Wikipedia:Pending_changes#Effect_of_various_protection_levels|here]]. Does that make sense? '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<span style="color: blue;">Go</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color: #E90004;">''Phightins''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<span style="color: #008504;">!</span>]]''' 17:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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:Oh, okay, thank you for warning me. To be honest, and I know this not an excuse for not abiding by the rules, but I’m not actually the one who wrote that text. I simply added back an edit that was made by another contributor but was then taken down by someone else on grounds that I believe were unfounded. But promise, I will be more careful in the future. [[User:Johnn Francis|Johnn Francis]] ([[User talk:Johnn Francis#top|talk]]) 18:59, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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== Tinting of World Cup tables ==

Hello, 

I was wondering whether the incorrect rendering that you perceived in my background colours for the Host and Attendance tables at [[FIFA World Cup]] might instead have been due to the fact that I deliberately chose faint colours such as "honeydew" for the different confederations to avoid distraction and obscuring the overlying text. See Wikipedia's article on [[Web Colors]]. 

If you can find [[Web Colors]] that render better on your screen and computer (without drowning the text), perhaps I (or you) can use them instead.

Let me know your thoughts and observations on this page (which I'll Watchlist) or on my own Talk Page.

[[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 03:38, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

:Hey, thanks for your comment. I was surprised at first to hear you say that the colours on the page were supposed to be visible; I thought for sure they were glitched, because the only ones ''I'' could see were lightyellow, and to some extent oldlace as well (although that one appeared quite faded: I saw it as very light yellow when it’s supposed to be more orange-like). On the other hand, azure, honeydew and lavenderblush were completely invisible to me.
:So I decided to check on several other devices and, surprise, all five colours appeared quite visible. I therefore started fiddling with my own computer (which is actually brand new) because, clearly, the problem was on my end. Changing the brightness and contrast directly on my monitor did no good, so I had to check the settings of my graphics card instead. There, adjusting the brightness and contrast finally solved the issue. I can now see all five colours distinctly. In fact, I took a look at the “Web colors” Wikipedia page that you linked, and prior to my adjustments, I could see basically all colours in the various tables ''except'' the colours in the “White colors” table, almost all of which were invisible to me, save for a handful of them that appeared very faded. After my adjustments, I can clearly distinguish all of them without any problem.
:So I’m sorry, I should have looked a little bit more into it before making my edits on the “FIFA World Cup” page instead of just assuming that it was a glitch straight away. That being said, I do think it would be preferable to use more “vibrant” colours for the different confederations, as I’m pretty certain there are plenty of people out there who are in the same situation as I was and who are probably never going to realise it (in fact, I would most likely never have realised it had you not left this comment). I would suggest using colours from any table of the “Web colors” Wikipedia page ''other than'' the “White colors” table. Maybe ''you'' can do it? But if you prefer that ''I'' do it instead, I don’t really mind. [[User:Johnn Francis|Johnn Francis]] ([[User talk:Johnn Francis#top|talk]]) 15:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

How's this? I fiddled with the RGB codes (both 3 and 6 digit) trying to make the colours light enough to show the blue wikilinks clearly but dark enough to show up on most systems.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:left"
|+ Total of World Cup competitions hosted by each confederation (1930–2026)<br>''{{small|Confederation and year in bold has an upcoming competition.}}''
|-
! scope="row" | Confederation
! scope="col" style=width:4em:| Total
! scope="col" class="unsortable" style="width:25em" | (Hosts) Years
|-
| style="background:#FF9"|[[Asian Football Confederation]] (AFC)
| style="text-align:center"|2
| {{flagicon|South Korea|1997}}+{{flagicon|Japan}} [[2002 FIFA World Cup|2002]], {{flagicon|Qatar}} [[2022 FIFA World Cup|2022]]
|-
|  style="background:#E8BC99" | [[Confederation of African Football]] (CAF)
| style="text-align:center"| 1
| {{flagicon|South Africa}} [[2010 FIFA World Cup|2010]]
|-
|  style="background:#CFF" | North, Central & Caribbean American '''''([[CONCACAF]])'''''
| style="text-align:center"| 4
| {{flagicon|Mexico}} [[1970 FIFA World Cup|1970]], {{flagicon|Mexico}} [[1986 FIFA World Cup|1986]], {{flagicon|United States}} [[1994 FIFA World Cup|1994]], {{flagicon|Canada}} + {{flagicon|Mexico}} + {{flagicon|United States}} '''''[[2026 FIFA World Cup|2026]]'''''
|-
|  style="background:#CF9"| South American ([[CONMEBOL]])
| style="text-align:center"| 5
| {{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[1930 FIFA World Cup|1930]], {{flagicon|Brazil|1889}} [[1950 FIFA World Cup|1950]], {{flagicon|Chile}} [[1962 FIFA World Cup|1962]], {{flagicon|Argentina}} [[1978 FIFA World Cup|1978]], {{flagicon|Brazil}} [[2014 FIFA World Cup|2014]]
|-
|  style="background:#E2E2FA"| [[Oceania Football Confederation]] (OFC)
| style="text-align:center"| 0
| &nbsp;
|-
|  style="background:#FFDADA"|Union of European Football Associations ([[UEFA]])
| style="text-align:center"| 11
| {{flagicon|Italy|1861}} [[1934 FIFA World Cup|1934]], {{flagicon|France|1830}} [[1938 FIFA World Cup|1938]], {{flagicon|Switzerland}} [[1954 FIFA World Cup|1954]], {{flagicon|Sweden}} [[1958 FIFA World Cup|1958]], {{flagicon|England}} [[1966 FIFA World Cup|1966]], {{flagicon|West Germany}} [[1974 FIFA World Cup|1974]]*, {{flagicon|Spain}} [[1982 FIFA World Cup|1982]], {{flagicon|Italy}} [[1990 FIFA World Cup|1990]], {{flagicon|France|1974}} [[1998 FIFA World Cup|1998]], {{flagicon|Germany}} [[2006 FIFA World Cup|2006]]*, {{flagicon|Russia}} [[2018 FIFA World Cup|2018]]
|-
| ''Two competitions cancelled due to [[World War II]]''
| style="text-align:center"| 0
| <s>''[[History of the FIFA World Cup#1942 FIFA World Cup|1942, 1946]]''</s>
|}

''*'' [[West Germany]] was the host of the 1994 Cup, and (reunited) [[Germany]] host to the one in 2006

Regards [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 03:22, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

:Yes, these look good. I put the settings of my computer back to what they were before to check, and I can clearly see all six colours. On a side note, I noticed that you've already edited the "FIFA World Cup" page, but you haven't added back the colours to the "Attendance" table. Is there a reason why? Should ''I'' add them back? [[User:Johnn Francis|Johnn Francis]] ([[User talk:Johnn Francis#top|talk]]) 18:04, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks,
::The reason I hadn’t yet restored the Attendance tints is that (before going through all that work), I wanted to make sure that the tints I had chosen were working properly. Now that they’re OK, I can now do that.  [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 18:12, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:::I just retinted and '''boldfaced''' the years in the attendance table; and adjusted the African colours as above. It was hard to find a brown or tan that would be visibly different from the other colours without making the blue-wikilinked years harder to read. [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]])

¶ [[User:Tvx1]] just reverted my tinting, which I rolled back (with our rationale and with an indirect, anonymous reference to your request); see the editing history of the World Cup page. Heaven knows I don't look forward to an edit war, or a fight on the [[Talk:FIFA World Cup]], let alone the rigmarole of a Request for Comment and !votes, but your two cents might not hurt should it bounce onto the article's Talk Page. Have a good weekend [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 18:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

:This is just information not worth tinting entire cells for. Wikipedia is not a coloring book. See [[MOS:COLOR]]. Bear in mind that there are readers who are partially or even fully colorblind, for whom this creates issues. This article existed decades without such tints, so why would that information suddenly become so vital only in late 2022 that it suddenly must be tinted? We don't color something that we personally consider interesting.[[User:Tvx1|T]][[User Talk:Tvx1|v]][[Special:Contributions/Tvx1|x]]1 23:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

== Re page protection ==

Thanks for your report to AIV – to answer your question from there, the appropriate venue to request page protection is [[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]]. I protected [[1950 FIFA World Cup]] for two weeks (and did not block any of the IPs); hopefully that will curb disruptive editing. <sup>[[User:ComplexRational|'''<span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span>''']]</sup>/<sub>[[User talk:ComplexRational|'''<span style="color:#000000">Rational</span>''']]</sub> 23:04, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

:Okay. Thanks for the quick reply and decision-making. Much appreciated! [[User:Johnn Francis|Johnn Francis]] ([[User talk:Johnn Francis#top|talk]]) 23:06, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

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When there is dispute, the standard course of action is the [[Wikipedia:BRD|bold-revert-discuss cycle]]. In this case, you made a "bold" (i.e. not discussed beforehand, with which there's nothing wrong per se) edit, I reverted it, and so what would have ideally ensued was a discussion on the talk page. I'm not without fault about this: I neglected to initiate or encourage a discussion and kept reverting, somehow thinking my summaries would be explanatory and persuasive enough to dissuade you from reverting. I was indeed completely wrong about the British pronunciation of ''thorough'', I'm sorry.

Also please refrain from reverting an entire edit (or an entire series of edits) if you object to only part of it. "not meant to be exhaustive" and "the column is 'Examples'" were in reference to your addition of "Brough, Clough", and from your summaries it doesn't appear you were objecting to my removal. (If you were, it would have been helpful to address it in the summary, though a discussion on the talk would have been even better.) I gave up on the removal because I figured it was neither here nor there, but I've removed ''Clough'' because, since not all speakers of English have /x/ in their phonological inventory, any word with syllable-final /x/ invariably has an alternative pronunciation with /k/, which is already accounted for by the IPAc-en notation (see [[WP:DIAPHONEMIC]]).

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