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Why I'm pretty sure traditional Pelecaniformes is polyphyletic

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Not only does the inclusion of tropicbirds in traditional Pelecaniformes mean that all members of Phaethoquornithes must have evolved from traditional Pelecaniformes in order for it to be paraphyletic, but even (Pelecanidae + Suliformes) are quite clearly a polyphyletic group. If IOC is right about the internal phylogeny of current Pelecaniformes, it strongly suggests that it was traditional Ciconiiformes (without flamingos) that was paraphyletic, meaning that Pelecanidae + Suliformes must be polyphyletic, which means traditional Pelecaniformes must be polyphyletic. Grey Clownfish (talk) 10:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you have papers that make that assertion, all you have is WP:OR, and no OR is allowed in any part of an Article. Provide a citation that asserts polyphyly or do not make the assertion on Wiki.--Kevmin § 15:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have provided a citation.
As for me removing Ardei from the taxobox on Pelecaniformes, I simply don't understand in what world that is original research. The cladogram in the article, which has two citations, is my source for Ardei being possibly non-monophyletic. And remember, it's the inclusion of Ardei that requires citation if anything, not its exclusion.
Do you want be to explain in words how the cladogram contradicts Ardei? Fine, it clearly shows that herons are sister to Pelecani. Since Ardei consists of Threskiornithidae and herons, it is clearly not compatible with the cladogram. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The cladogram isn't from IOC; I probably thought that because it is right after a paragraph about IOC's classification of Pelecaniformes. Grey Clownfish (talk) 08:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Anticlea elegans

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Hello! Your submission of Anticlea elegans at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Soman (talk) 13:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hymenophyllum axsmithii

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--Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:24, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

DYK for Ansorge Hotel

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On 26 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ansorge Hotel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a red light in the corner bay window of the Ansorge Hotel told rumrunners of revenue men in town? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ansorge Hotel. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ansorge Hotel), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]