User talk:Erkan Yilmaz/Archive4

Re:

ping Terra 08:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Template

Hi Erkan,

I've noticed that you've been using the UTC time on your userpage I've just transfered the coding to a Template page Template:Time the coding is the same and nothing's been changed but it'll probably neaten the userpage and it maybe useful to some user's. Terra 12:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Great, do you want to change the user page then ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 12:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Y Done It's updated. Terra 13:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thx, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 14:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Section 56

Hi Erkan,

I've Changed Section 56 - on the talkpage you've asked for an updated version, and I've changed the writing is there any improvements you think I should do to it, if you want you can change some of text. Terra 19:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It seems more shortened than before. And I still wonder a little about the name, because a name should be significant and tell already about the coming content. Anyway, have fun with it - that is what makes contributers stay longer here - it is a wiki. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 12:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

interwiki language links

Hi Erkan, Do you know if its possible to make this: German WB/WV flyer as an internal link? (I mean, not with plain links). i.e., is there a way to do interwiki-interlanguage links? e.g., something like... de.wikibooks:Wikibooks:Wikibooks_bekannter_machen/_weitere_Vorschläge#Aushang German WB/WV flyer PS. I like the flyer! Can we translate to English? What is the format? -- Jtneill - Talk 14:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The link would be then: German WB/WV flyer (for all wikimedia projects you can see the abbreviation code e.g. here: Main Page/Sisterprojects 0.5).

The texts on de.WB are also on GFDL, so translation should be allowed, if you keep to the GFDL terms. But the flyers itself maybe under another licence (you can check this on the flyer then).

the format is svg, if you ask b:de:Benutzer:heuler06 he will send you the svg file. I have an older version which I also could send you ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Erkan

Everything cool, clothed in wool. (sorry, wanted to rhyme)Daanschr 13:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You can do anything you want, it is a wiki :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 14:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

History of everything

Great Erkan, that you are interested. It is a very different kind of book than Thucydides. I intend to do less structure in the discussion than with the Thucydides book reading.Daanschr 12:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Random mascot

hi erkan; when you're ready for some more fun, please test and improve: Template:Random mascot. -- Jtneill - Talk 06:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Mascot welcome Woof! My name is Jack(Russell). I am a dog and a Wikiversity mascot. I am pretty new around Wikiversity. Perhaps we can learn together! Tail wag...

Mascot welcome Hi! My name is WikiversityJack. I am a pumpkin and a Wikiversity mascot. I like to think of Wikiversity as a place for fun learning. Let me know if I can help you out.

Mascot welcome Hi! Our name is Vicky-Verity. We are twins and are Wikiversity mascots. We think Wikiversity is a great place to learn and make friends (when we aren't sleeping). Leave us a message!

French

I wold be interested to do some lessons about french Topic:French but I don't really understand how to write the lesson and the rules of en is strange for me. Can you help me ? Vivelefrat 11:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Salut, perhaps you could tell me, what is it that makes the prob, then we could talk it over. BTW you can find me also in #wikiversity-fr :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I've seen your answer but unfortunatly I have less time to contribute to wikiversity for the moment so I'm not on IRC a lot. Vivelefrat 15:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:-( ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Probationary Custodian

Hi I was wondering if I could become a custodian on a trial? Businesslawyer 13:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Some may consider it as spamming yes but it wasnt meant for that. I have created a page about it but I havent finished it yet. At scribblewiki I hope to have it as successful as the wiki foundation. I am in the process of adding and creating the templates for it. I hope to have this done by the end of August and it will be a fully functional website. I am looking to recruit users that is why I was creating articles and also telling people about it on their talkpages. As for wikiversity I want to revert vandalism and also block users who are messing around and breaking the policy. I really want to become a Custodian. Businesslawyer 14:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Merhaba

Merhaba Erkan ben aylin senin gibi bu portalı kullanan bir turk olmasına sevindim. Senin hakkında bilgi edinmek isterim Stilite, 18:46 UTC, 22.05.2008

Merhaba Aylın, bende sevindim. Sayfamdaki bilgi yetmiyor mu ? Ne bilmek istiyorsun ? Sana Vikiversite hakkında nasıl yardım edebilirim ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 18:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help, Erkan, since I washed up on Wikiversity's shores. It's a fun island. And especially you are able to know and show that no (wom)an is an island :). -- Jtneill - Talk 10:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Great that you like it here - hope it stays like this forever. Have fun on crazy island called "Wikiversity". :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 10:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Chats

Hi Erkan - no, the chats I organised didn't materialise - mainly due to my rushed time suggestion in the end. Only JWS turned up explicitly aware of and interested in a chat - we just chatted informally instead (and also with others who turned up at either time I suggested). However, I'd like to organise one - better, with feedback - and soon(ish). I've just been busy with a paper recently - hence my lack of participation - but that's done now. Talk to you soon... Cormaggio ^talk 18:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Cormac, well I am aboard hopefully (if not, I will read the chat for sure). How about listing in short what appeared so far as discussion points from the chats ? Perhaps we could use that also in the meeting ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 18:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

proposal

"did you see this proposal to close Beta Wikiversity" <-- Thanks for the link! --JWSchmidt 19:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much John, I hope many Wikiversity participants will voice their opinion. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 20:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Erkan (and John!)... have you brought this up on wv.de as well? Looks to me like "Robin" is trying to claim turf or something, with very little understanding of the differences between Wikiversities and other projects. --SB_Johnny | ^talk 23:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi John, some of the existing separate WVs were informed - except: cs and pt (jp only written to an admin). Also some announcements on beta added. I really hope that beta will come out of this with new spirits instead losing spirits :-( ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 23:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

IRC meeting

Hi Erkan - just notifying you of a suggested time/date for an IRC meeting about 'Wikiversity learning'. Could you indicate if you would be available, or would prefer a different time/date? Cormaggio ^talk 14:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

That's great you might be able to make it, Erkan - but if you want to suggest an alternative, please do so before people start 'signing up'.. :-) Cormaggio ^talk 14:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Well this time it is better: it is just 23:00 o'clock for me then: even if the meeting goes 2h with some coffee I could hold out. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 15:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting a user page

Hi Erkan. User:Cailil has requested deletion of the userpage for privacy reasons. That seems to me like a reasonable request, however I have no experience in these matters. Could you advise me on how to proceed? Sincerely, -- Jtneill - Talk 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Completition status tags

Heh, this project looks like Wikibooks. Where are the advantages and what is the aim?--Juan 07:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess you reference about Category:Completed resources ? Well, I would like that the knowledge about a learning resource gets from the individual's heads into WV (this saves time when searching). Recent example: someone visited de.WV chat and asked for some reference courses at de.WV - but I only gave him the ones I knew about. The other ones which I didn't know about so good I couldn't give. So for me a categorization helps to find something better - at least better than before being uncategorized. Now atm there is discussion ongoing between participants at en.WV how to classify. Of course some things can't be classified good/correct/enough. But any categorizatino/classification can be changed afterwards (even if you classify it with - "not categorized"). People should not forget: we are a wiki and that changes. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 23:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

OER-course

Thanks for booking me up, Erkan.--Daanschr 21:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

you are welcome :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 21:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Aww..

And I just switched accounts so I could rollback. --Remi 22:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry - next time you can do it :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: beta wiki closure

Hi Erkan, what I meant was that the vote doesn't seem to be attracting any new comments/votes, and it's clearly in heavy favour of a "keep". I just thought that site notice was too cluttered - you can reinstate it if you feel it's best. Cormaggio ^talk 18:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Merci for the explanation. Since the proposal's time has not yet ended and we are not sure that on the last day more people show up who support the closure of beta I am putting it back. Cluttered is indeed true, I have shortened the 2nd one a little. Someone else can also shorten more, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Question

Is there any template to start a page on economics? I can't seem to find one... let me know :-) Monobi 01:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Monobi, do you mean something like a boiler plate (see Portal:History and then "Create a new history page") ? There is also available Template:Economics-stub (which could be extended to something like: Template:Welcome and expand) ? If none of these could satisfy you, you could perhaps find something in one of the pages at Category:Economics ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 01:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was looking for something like a boiler plate... Monobi 01:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, do you know how to create such a boiler plate with a box called e.g. "Create a new economics page" (basically you can copy + paste it from the above place and change a few things) ? We could also set it up for you if you like. Where would you like this box to be ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 01:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Your message on my English Wikipedia user page

Hi Erkan - I fully intend to respond to that question, besides a couple others that I've had to give some more thought to. Hopefully I'll have this done by Wednesday. Thanks for the reminder! Sarcasticidealist 08:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Merhaba

Merhaba. Evet, tanıyorsun :))Srhat 12:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

İyiyim işte nolsun. beta vikiversiteye tr test projesini başlattım yavaş yavaş fakülteleri felan ekleriz. Neyse sonra görüşürüz.Srhat 18:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

New User name

Hi, Erkan, just wondering if I m able to change my user name (The preceding unsigned comment was added by DónalMcK (talk • contribs) 17:45, 17 June 2008)

Thanks Erkan.

Categories

Hello again. I had a few queries regarding categorizing:

• What is its purpose?
• How is it done? (subcategories too)
• How can I check that pages in my school are categorized correctly?

I am willing to wait for the answers as I am aware these may require detailed answers. Go raibh mile maith agaibh 09:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

to

1: What is the purpose of categories?

2: How do I add an article to a category? (also that page in total gives a lot of info), also see Wikiversity:Categories

3: What means "correctly" ? In my view that is relative. Someone may like it more abstract, someone more detailed, someone wouldn't add it to a certain category I would add, ... Mostly I'd say by qualitative analysis and if you see after 5 years nobody changed it, it may be a sign that it is "correct" or people didn't bother to "fix" it :-) Though I am sure that there are also tools to help you with (on commons for files there is a tab called "find categories" - see e.g. here). ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your answers to numbers 1 and 2. I found the answer to 3 already but i worded he question wrongly. I just wanted to know if you are reading an article could you tell what categories it belonged to. I know now that you can. And obviously when I say "my school" I mean the school that I belong to, rather than the school that belongs to me lol Go raibh mile maith agaibh 17:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

When it is not easy to find a category you can use other resources: e.g. go to Wikipedia and look under what category it is put there. It can guide you or at least give new input, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Introduction to Moodle

Hi Erkan, I'm trying to find my way around Moodle :). When I try to enrol in "Introduction to Moodle", I get "this course does not allow public access"? -- Jtneill - Talk 16:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• FYI, I'll put other questions, etc. here Talk:Moodle. -- Jtneill - Talk 16:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Custodial flag

Hi Erkan. Would you please go ahead and flag this username as a custodian? SUL has changed the dynamics of logging into Wikimedia projects. Thank you. --Emesee 02:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC) (Remi)

see here, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 08:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Username Change

Hi Erkan,

Due to this discussion here [1] on Wikipedia on my alternate talkpage - would it be possible if you could change my Terra username to Yun-Yuuzhan which used to be my primary account, also in response to your comment on the nominations page I have returned to Wikipedia but I'm using my Yun-Yuuzhan account from now on - but wouldn't mind unifying my account on this site. Terra 15:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Please place your request at Wikiversity:Changing username, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I've transferred my request. Terra 15:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity question

I've answered your question about Wikiversity. As with most Board questions, I think that Board members should be asking the community such questions, and that the role of the Board to address these issues is greatly limited; but thank you for attending to the needs of this project. For future elections, how can we help more Wikiversity contributors get involved? Sj 16:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

reply, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Erkan, I saw your message to Samuel Klein :). But you can revote.

You can revote. Hillgentleman|Talk 17:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for the information - I guess I just have to vote again ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye. Since you have recorded your vote, that shouldn't be a problem. Hillgentleman|Talk 17:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hillgentleman, thank you very much. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Hi Erkan,

In regard to your comment I was just following the Wikimedia's Policy - but since you said users are fine editing your comments or userpage then that's fine by me. Terra 20:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry too. I am an idiot. Please delete my userpage and talk page. I do not think I have anything to add (at least productively) to Wikiversity. I wish I did, but I know me. JoshGordinski 20:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, don't say that so easily. Everybody can be productive on his/her own way. If you want we could guide you a little ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Software testing

Hi! Just a quick note: I moved Category:Software testing directly under Category:Software, and deleted Category:Test, while it was too board (or better said unclear) in definition. I write this to you, because I saw you are quite active in this topic. Hope the deleted cat. was not linked via DinamicPageList like here the software testing cat. Also I noticed the "Topic:" namespace definition is missing at Software testing/glossary. It should be this way, or it was just mistyped? --Gbaor 12:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Gbaor, thx to you and McCormack for the help. About changes: do as you think would be best for all. In Wikiversity when someone presses the save-button it is not "owned" by someone alone, it belongs to all. Happy "fixing", ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

social call

Hi Erkan,

How are you doing?--Daanschr 18:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I am ok. A bit stressed by my job at the moment. Thought that working with people for 40 hours a day would improve my life. But i realize that social contact only matters when there is deep sympathy. Something that lacks in a common working place. I think i miss the school where i worked three months ago. The job was boring and sometimes hard, but there certainly were great rewards, something that i miss entirely in my present job. Don't know what to do now. I think i stimulated one of my colleagues to stop working here as well. She wants to live at a beach on the Dutch Carribean island Bonaire where she went on holiday. Which is much better that working your ass of at a Dutch ministry (of the government).--Daanschr 18:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The history atlas didn't went well. I had less enthusiasm about it than earlier on. It has to do with previous examples of when i tried to start something up. The lack of participance was a major problem. SB_Johnny and JWSchmidt want to restart my first project w:Wikipedia:WikiProject organized debate. I am much more positive about that project. Especially because it is focused at little rewards and a long startup of decades. A debate will be announced a year in advance. So, everything is slow and hopefully solid because of it. An idea behind it was that some political parties in Holland and Belgium took 30 years to become a success. Take the Socialist Party, it was founded in the late 1960s and now after 35 years 1 in 6 Dutch voted for it. A very long startup period, but with an idea that had a good chance to work.--Daanschr 18:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You are probably watching football now? ;-)--Daanschr 18:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Your teams scored twice :-) --Daanschr 19:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a lucky guess. So you can only win tonight!--Daanschr 19:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Never heard of either of those. Had to look it up. What is a ticker? (Going to sleep now, bye)--Daanschr 20:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I quited my job today. It was to stressful, and i need more time to think about what i really like to do now. Have spared enough money to be able not to work for 4.5 months, so i got plenty of time to do something.--Daanschr 16:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, i haven't stopped working yet. Today was incredibly busy. My first priority would be to do at least something that brings in some money to live. ;-) --Daanschr 17:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Categories

Hi Erkan, I have just categorized uncategorized categories in the field of medicine. I am just wondering how I remove them from the list now. If a custodian has to do it, I can provide you with the numbers of those I categorized. Go raibh mile maith agaibh 19:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Certainly, I am talking about this page. I am not able to edit the page and, therefore, the list. If I can, please explain, and I shall happily do it myself. If not, I can provide you with the numbers that I worked on as they appear in the list. I just realised I can't get it as a blue link. It can be found by clicking special pages then uncategorized categories. Go raibh mile maith agaibh 19:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

No that's fine. Yes it did help. I did all the ones relevant to my specialty. Out of interest, how often is it updated? i.e. How often should I check it for new uncategorized items? Is the Special:UncategorizedPages list the same for update times? Go raibh mile maith agaibh 20:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help. I think I'll add it to my watchlist and when it's updated I can browse through the list again. Go raibh mile maith agaibh 21:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Issue of Concern

I was roaming through the uncategorized pages and this page is causing me concern as it sounds like medical advice. Diabetes is a serious illness and I don't think this site should be involved in providing medical advice. I don't know the entire policies just yet but I think this should be removed. Do you agree? Donek (talk) - Go raibh mile maith agaibh 22:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think a disclaimer would properly cover us for this sort of material. Even if we were covered, the publicity from an unfortunate event relating to advice would be detrimental to our reputation. I would like to remove the entire content now, but maybe keep the page. I can edit later after the other things I want to do. The main concern is that it refers to the reader in the second person as if the reader has diabetes. I know it's not very wiki to delete original content, but we have an ethical duty to remember that people can reach that page without reading the disclaimer via a search engine or other directions. Donek (talk) - Go raibh mile maith agaibh 23:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I looked up what you meant by argument but i am none the wiser. Are suggesting that we put it up for debate, that the auhor was just suggesting a different perspective or something else. Excuse my ignorance :) Donek (talk) - Go raibh mile maith agaibh 23:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I found another one here. There are more. Donek (talk) - Go raibh mile maith agaibh 23:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

This page, Parental health has been moved to Health/Essays/Parental health. Also Myths and Misconceptions about Type II Diabetes may be deleted, it was a copyvio --Abd (discuss • contribs) 23:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Late log

Hi Erkan - here's the log from 7th June. Better late than never (I've been on holidays for past two weeks). Btw, if you email me, there's no need to also ping me on Wikiversity - I'll check both when I'm online. Cormaggio ^talk 11:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd also be interested in what you think of the first stab at a summary I wrote, which also has some action steps. Cormaggio ^talk 12:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Rename help

Please take a look at this.--Mohamed0 18:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Starting a course for my students with wikiversity

hi erkan i would ike to put together a course on wikiversity. i have read through all the basics and it seems very interesting but i am still unsure how to begin and how precisely the course would operate. Some guidance would be really appreciated.

Since I have now not so much info about what you read and what the course is about, let's try this:

• If you like you can create an account so others can msg you on your talk page (which is fixed, not in some cases varies with an IP).
• About operating: that depends totally on your context - there is no general formula, but you could have a look how others approached this - some have given here also feedback: Wikiversity:School and university projects. You can roll the ball here by editing a page or creating a new one: Wikiversity:Adding content. Don't be afraid to make mistakes, anything can be reverted or page names moved, ...
• Probably not all of your questions are answered yet (since I can't read your mind), so feel free to ask. In general it is advisable to ask not only one person but many, so you could write also at the Wikiversity:Colloquium and I personally advise the Wikiversity:Chat since you might get interactive responses. Using the Search function on the left side might also helpful.
• I gues smost of the times the initial start is the most difficult, so here I say: shoot your questions or use the chat - I am there today at least for another hour. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Just in case, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Erkan

Briefly, we would like to create a system with interactive study, each individual at his / her own pace, effectively teaching themselves all about Judaism. The student chooses what they want. A questionnaire will analyze what their motivation is to learn - became religious and want to understand, no Jewish background but want to study, want to study and not have to commit etc and offer tracks based on their needs.

Each track is then studied in a particular semester so that a social networking group can form around a topic, be it Jewish history, philosophy, learning hebrew, how to learn Talmud or relationships. The group is moderated by a professional mentor.

Interactive technology is employed in the form of videos, audio, text, animation, assignements, projects etc.

The challenge now is that the amount of data needed is tremendous and we also need to obtain the information in presentable structured format. To pay people to do it would be far too expensive and unrealistic. Enter the idea of a wiki. If we could somehow muster the power of people out there to enter the information into wikis, we could hope to end up with a very comprehensive database.

The question is how to motivate people to write and to transfer the info from tacit knowledge into implicit knowledge. Also, why would someone want to contribute to such a wiki?

A possible solution is wikiversity - each individual enters their talks, stories, articles, video lectures, maybe even animations and we have this huge database. But it would not yet be useable. We nned the wikipedia style of people contributing to central article that have all the info. And we have to recognize their contributions through some kind of ranking and loyalty system.

Whatever the case, once this is done comes the first part, which is a navigation system for people wanting to learn.

That is the idea we have thus far in brief. As you can see it is still very raw and we would like some professional input.

I value your input.

Thank you for the additional input. Some links regarding this I'd like to offer is:

• Topic:Jewish studies
• Wikiversity:Personal learning environment

Since religious topics get sometimes controversial I'd also recommend strongly these pages (if you like add your opinions):

• Topic:Religious Content on Wikiversity
• Wikiversity:Draft policy on religious content
• Wikiversity:Disclosures
• Category:Theology - how others approached religious topics.

>We nned the wikipedia style of people contributing to central article that have all the info. And we have to recognize their contributions through some kind of ranking and loyalty system.

Could you be more specific here what you mean ? Contributions by anybody can always be seen over a special link (e.g. yours) and users can mention on e.g. their user pages to which learning content they contributed etc. In general: Wikiversity differs in some ways from Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects, see e.g. w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-05-09/Wikiversity interview, here, Wikiversity:What shall we do with Wikipedia?

>professional input.

Well, I am not a professional, I am - as you - a contributor here who uses this wiki, but I can share my opinion. It'd be nice if you could create a user account (then also IPs are not obvious) and present yourself/your group and your ideas there also, so future participants you interact with can find this info and you don't have to retype. I will put this also in the Colloquium so you get more input.

So, where are now then ? I'd say start a learning resource and let's see in practice how it looks like and how this wiki can help you to flow to the learning experience. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

the msg in the Colloquium, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Elections

Hi Erkan. I think we need an uninvolved bureaucrat to take a look at our custodian elections and declare Gbaor's a success and Terra's a "not-at-this-time-please-try-again-later". Or does your bureaucratic sense of consensus see it differently? --McCormack 15:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• So will you update the voting page as well? --McCormack 16:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Done, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks, Erkan! --McCormack 16:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Account

Hi Erkan,

I've gone ahead and created my new account which I requested per changing username request, will it be possible if you could erase all of my userpage and subpages on my Terra account, I'll no-longer be using it - especially on Wikipedia, if you need confirmation I'll respond to this comment on my new username account. Terra 09:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello Terra, for deletions on WP please ask an admin there. Just to make sure, your deletion request that would be these pages in total then:

Terra

Terra/Awards

Terra/Global-Borders

Terra/New Pages

Terra/Recent Changes

Terra/Sandbox

Terra/Updates

Terra/UserBoxes

Terra/Userpage Template

Terra/archivemessage

Terra/monobook.js

Terra/signatures

What shall we do with the talk + archive pages ? see [2], ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Please erase them, including the talkpage & archives, I'm now under a new username which I requested to use on the Changing Username page. Terra 18:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Even it is your personal name space, I dont think so it is a good idea to delete talk pages as other people also edited them and you should ask them if they agree with deletion. Remember also, that deleting your user page doesnt mean killing and acount so it will be still in here. Maybe, you can just vanished your userpage and place there a template or note, that it is not active any more.--Juan 08:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Terra, please put the deletion template at the pages you want.

In general, if you want to start fresh here, just forget the actions in the past (account Terra and others) - continue as you would like with the new account, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 08:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Due to Juan's comment I've decided to leave a redirect link to my new username. Erkan, please don't erase the subpages on my Terra account as in the future I may need to look at them for reference - as to what went wrong previously., and hopefully I won't make that same mistake again Terra 18:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Erkan

Everything allright with you?

I have done a suggestion on Colloquium for a meeting on saturday 19 july on 17 o'clock UTC.--Daanschr 16:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Answered there - you know how it is: busy little bee :-) What's up with you ? Did you quit the job already ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, i did. But i still work there untill 1 august. Some people hate to see me go. Others i would surely not miss. It wasn't one of the best jobs that i got.--Daanschr 17:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome + Random mascot → {{wmas}}

Hi Erkan - I made it so that {{subst:wmas}} will add both the welcome template and the random mascot template - a little less typing :). -- Jtneill - Talk - c 03:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello James, thx, will use it. btw: welcome back again. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 06:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Me too :) --Gbaor 07:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename

Thanks for the rename.--Mohamed 14:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Horbury high school

Yes this is a real school, coincidently it isn't far from my hometown, although there isn't a Wikipedia article about it. However, per What Wikiversity is not, content that is effectively an encyclopedia article should be on Wikipedia. I would suggest that this has probably been posted here by mistake and was probably intended for Wikipedia. Adambro 20:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

see Talk:Horbury High School, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for making the correction to MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Anonymous101 ^talk 19:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your awareness, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 19:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Wiki-related learning

Hi Erkan,

I am having doubts about the topic. I think it would be better for the project if we learn about something other than learning itself. Also, wiki-related learning is better served, if the learning is on something other than learning on a wiki. It might be that we can get a large participance, but i don't think that those who attend will be interested in learning about something other than learning itself. My idea behind this project is to get people interested to move from one topic to another and to spend lots of time in the process in order to gain an in-depth understanding of a topic.--Daanschr 16:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to think of a topic, that we both might enjoy.

I read a book for my studies about France during the enlightenment. An oppressive society with absolute state rule based on a strong army and church slowly transformed into a liberal state. The state tried to use coercion, but that didn't work and had to give way.

Maybe we can do a topic related to German romanticism. Especially the cosmopolitan kind. Or maybe the British poet Byron, or Shakespeare.

Or maybe something completely different.--Daanschr 16:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Daan, it is a wiki and we will see what people want - probably will take more than 1 chat session to find this out.

As topics: let's see what we can come up with on Saturday - I have here already two topics I want to finish still: Thucydides and the Three Kingdoms :-( ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

What if we read Thucydides in a different way? We will both read the rest of the text and than we talk about it and edit some articles on Wikipedia. Than we will have finished Thucydides and will be able to move to another subject. Or choose a subject related to Thucydides?--Daanschr 20:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

We could talk about that also on Saturday. After the progress we made would be a waste to not continue. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I will eat with my family this evening. Perhaps we can chat now, or tomorrow?--Daanschr 12:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Now is good, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 12:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, i was gone for a little while.--Daanschr 12:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

architecture school

Hi Erkan, thanks for the welcome message! Anything specific I can do related to architecture, I'll be around... Cheers --Yorik 00:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)