- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Nja247 18:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yuka Aimoto (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Procedural nom. This was {{prod}} tagged and deleted as part of User:Oo7565's random-deletion-tagging spree. Although it's unreferenced, it's potentially notable (I don't know the significance of the film she appeared in or of her role), so I've undeleted and set up a procedural AFD discussion. Procedural nom, so I abstain. – iridescent 22:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 10:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. —Calathan (talk) 15:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete A voice actress, but where are refs to satisfy W:BIO? Non-English reliable and independent sources would be fine. Has had 4 cast roles per "Anime News Network," a source of unknown reliability. Edison (talk) 03:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, ANN has been pretty firmly established to be reliable. 159.182.1.4 (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Technically, ANN's encyclopedia is generally accurate (if rarely comprehensive -- there are usually large omissions when it comes to credits for actors and creators) -- however, because it's user-edited it's not "reliable" by the jargon definition used by Wikipedia. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. The voice acting role listed here is one of six leads in that (stongly notable) OVA. The ja.wiki article lists a handful of other minor voice acting credits -- and a much larger number of stage acting roles, some of which are clearly minor but others look like potentially notable, in particular the one where she reprised her original role in a revival, which strongly implies it was a lead role. Not knowing anything about the plays, however, I cannot fully assess those. So provisionally keep and edit to bring out she is more of a stage actress than voice actress. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The voice actor has played a significant role in various notable creations. Dream Focus 11:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - she meets criterion #10 under WP:MUSICBIO, "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable" with two notable theme song peformances. Technically, under WP:ENTERTAINER: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions" also. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 02:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- While she technically meets criteria #10 of WP:MUSICBIO, I don't think she meets the intent of the criteria. According to ANN, the opening theme of Raimuiro Senkitan, and the opening and ending themes of its sequel OAV, are sung by "Raimu-tai". The name makes it clear that it is a group composed of voice actors from the series, and isn't a separate group. This is further supported by the fact that all of main female voice actors for the series are credited with singing those theme songs. This isn't a case of a singer being asked to perform a song for a TV series, but a case where people were cast in a TV series, and as part of that roll, they had to sing. I don't think that establishes any further notability beyond that established by her roll in the series. Calathan (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sure the "intent" of WP:N was to keep people from writing articles on your neighbor's new puppy, but is instead used to delete good articles on legitimate works of anime and manga. Clearly "intent" has no place on Wikipedia, only the rules as-written. 159.182.1.4 (talk) 16:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If I interpret your comment correctly, you are really saying that notability guidelines shouldn't be applied as-written, as that results in good articles being deleted. If that is the case, then I don't see how you can argue that the guidelines should be applied strictly as written in this case. Regardless, I think the intent of guidelines is important, and if a guideline is not worded to match its intent, it should be reworded. WP:N says to use common sense, making it clear that the notability guidelines shouldn't always be blindly followed with no consideration to if they make sense. Futhermore, this article isn't currently good in my opinion (she is apparently primarily a stage actress, but the artcile doesn't even mention that), isn't about a work of anime or manga (its about a person), and it doesn't look like it is going to be deleted (most of the !votes are for keep right now), so I think your comment is somewhat misplaced. I certainly am not voting for it to be deleted. Calathan (talk) 18:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- While she technically meets criteria #10 of WP:MUSICBIO, I don't think she meets the intent of the criteria. According to ANN, the opening theme of Raimuiro Senkitan, and the opening and ending themes of its sequel OAV, are sung by "Raimu-tai". The name makes it clear that it is a group composed of voice actors from the series, and isn't a separate group. This is further supported by the fact that all of main female voice actors for the series are credited with singing those theme songs. This isn't a case of a singer being asked to perform a song for a TV series, but a case where people were cast in a TV series, and as part of that roll, they had to sing. I don't think that establishes any further notability beyond that established by her roll in the series. Calathan (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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