Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Point Blank (2008 video game)

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The result was no consensus to delete, default to keep. This was already re-listed once, and generated no further discussion, so I'm closing it. It could arguably have been closed as keep, but, on balance, I'm not convinced that discussion has reached the point of consensus. However, the Korean language sources cited by both keep !votes are unrebutted. Steve Smith (talk) 00:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Point Blank (2008 video game)

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I believe this game does not meet Wikipedia's notability policy. I was unable to turn up any reviews from reliable publications, nor do the three sources used in the page come from non-primary, reliable websites. Could also find nothing on MobyGames (it doesn't even seem to have a page for it) or the Wayback Machine. Namcokid 47 ^(Contribs) 16:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Namcokid 47 ^(Contribs) 16:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 18:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is an in-depth coverage at 4Gamer.net [1] [2], will try to find more. Seems there was a tournament revolving around this game [3], [4], [5].Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sources exist, if they are not in the article then that can be rectified for anyone who is so inclined, but that is not a reason to delete in the meantime per WP:DINC. --Micky (talk) 02:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you point me to these sources? If you're referring to the ones that Jovanmilic uncovered, it's a good start but we'll need more coverage from other sources. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 02:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Probably referring to those mentioned in the post above his. Dream Focus 14:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP Coverage in Japanese/Korean sources seems significant. I searched for English sources and only found a passing mention at https://www.vg247.com/2020/01/17/next-gen-light-gun-games-shooters-ps5-xbox-series-x/ "there are a lot of thirty-somethings with disposable income and enormous amounts of nostalgia for things like Virtua Cop and Point Blank." The Korean sources are enough though. Dream Focus 14:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "I searched for English sources and found only a passing mention, therefore it makes the game notable." Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 16:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - btw, the source you provided is talking about a completely unrelated Namco lightgun shooter of the same name, not the Korean browser game. Not like it makes that big of a difference, since we have yet to see any reception for this game or any actually significant coverage. Namcokid 47 ^(Contribs) 16:20, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I didn't say that passing mention made it notable. I said the Japanese/Korean sources proved it was notable so it didn't matter if English sources were found. Dream Focus 16:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - We need reception, though. This game has gotten released in the US and in many other countries, so surely some has to be found for this. Namcokid 47 ^(Contribs) 16:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I agree with Dream Focus that the existing Korean sources are enough. For reception in English, I think the above-quoted statement that thirty-somethings are nostalgic for Point Blank indicates that the game is well-liked and memorable. The game was produced in 2008 and the magazines that reviewed it may not be immediately accessible. — Toughpigs (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The English source is useless because it is talking about a completely different game. This is not the same as the unrelated arcade game of the same title. Namcokid 47 ^(Contribs) 17:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found another coverage of the game in Smithsonian Magazine (which is very surprising) [6], and Yahoo! [7]. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.