Jimbo Wales

Hi Jimbo. You know what I miss?

Wear the cap and bells! SerialNumber54129 21:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

You -- or somebody -- having effective reserve powers.Because, really, there ought to be an ombudsman. A lot of functional organizations have one. Inspector General in governments, that sort of thing.

Editing Wikipedia is really important to me. It's more than just a hobby, it's therapy. It's more than just therapy, it's... well, never mind. And I'm not the only one, that I know.

Sure that's my problem and mine alone (I guess), but I mean after all we are running an "attractive nuisance" here for that sort of thing. Didn't mean to, but people do a lot of things that have effects they didn't mean, and one can't necessarily wash their hands of them always.

And I mean the uh personnel reassignment people here can be ruthless. (I get it, we're a big publishing operation not a tea party.) Anyways, if I'm ever shown the door here -- you never know -- I figured I could maybe email you and beg for mercy. But I guess not.

I'm not asking for any solution to this. There isn't one I don't think. I mean, the Foundation can't help, politically that just wouldn't work. So, I'm just saying.

But! Don't want to be a downer here, so to end on a good note, there was an editor a little while back, self-admittedly a fair bit along on the autism spectrum, got himself into (legit) trouble with obsessing over a particular subject... you know how people can get. Legit he was out of chances. He'd been topic banned but he just couldn't stay away from the topic. He was a goner. But, he pretty much grovelled for mercy on the grounds that editing the Wikipedia was basically keeping him going. And it worked. It worked. We worked out to let him stay, keep in touch with him, got the admins on board with that, finally got thru to him that he needed to obsess about something else, and he's still here. Man, I was proud of the Wikipedia that day. But it doesn't necessarily work out like that. Hence a catcher in the rye would be nice. Just saying. Herostratus (talk) 06:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I'd say you have well-staked out your position as Wikipedia's classic Gadfly, so I hope that you aren't shown the door just yet. Andre🚐 22:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Making fly-by-night antisemitic insinuations about fellow-editors is not what Socratic minds do.Nishidani (talk) 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia has numerous functionaries of various sorts. See:

1. WP:Ombudsman
2. WP:Ombudsmen
3. WP:Ombudsmen Committee

Andrew🐉(talk) 09:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Functionaries. God save us from functionaries.

And don't mind Nishidani there. He's just my imaginary friend, he likes to follow me around apparently. It's good! Maybe we all should all have someone like that, mnmh. Kind of like that king who had a guy follow him around to remind him he wasn't so great. There are a couple of admins here I can think of who could benefit from that service maybe. I'm available Tuesdays and Friday evenings. Nah, just kidding. Hey cavemen complained about the people modding their fires I'm sure. The mods are mostly pretty fine, the problems are structural but hey the thing works, people (like me) just have to grumble. Don't mind us.

No, I just materialized Nishidani so I could make another point, which... is too long, maybe I'll write an article or something, so skip it, I'll leave it at just my previous point, sorry for taking your time and space. Herostratus (talk) 03:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

ANI v. WMF time frame

I know this might have gotten lost in the shuffle, but I'm planning to start an RfC regarding the "office" action in that case. Do you know, or know who to ask, regarding how "temporary" the "temporary" takedown of the page is? I'm not asking for some exact date, but rather some estimate, or even just an order of magnitude (days|weeks|months|years). If we're talking "Wait a couple of weeks until the appeal is filed", that's a very different conversation than "We might, if we're lucky, have it back in five years." Do you know that, or know who to ask about that? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I recommend against an RfC at this time, it seems unlikely to accomplish anything positive in any way. I would say that specific questions like that are not answerable at the present time for legal reasons. The best thing to do here is assume good faith that the legal team know what they are doing.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:25, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Good faith can be assumed to a point. But at some point, "What exactly are you doing, why, and how long will it be?" needs to get an answer, not "Well, legal reasons...". Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 12:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

We know that "technical issues" for the comparatively-simple matter of graphs meant "completely broken for 18 months". One can only imagine what "legal reasons" for a political court case in India means—perhaps a decade? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Maybe even more [1]. Ratnahastin (talk) 13:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't think an rfc would achieve anything as Office actions can't be overruled by any editor. Ratnahastin (talk) 06:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Overruled, not per se—but we can certainly object to them and register disapproval. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 09:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes that is a good idea and I certainly won't object to it. Maybe we can create a new page like WP:FRAMBAN and seek the community's view. Ratnahastin (talk) 11:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment — @Seraphimblade: @AirshipJungleman29: WMF has agreed to handover basic subscriber information of editors who edited Asian News International page to Indian court.[2]. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Yes, see discussion at WP:VPWMF. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  That, and it was under some type of "sealed cover" arrangement. I don't even pretend to know the first thing about the Indian judicial system, so I don't know what that means or how it would affect things. I will certainly say that the question of disclosing any information to an opposing party, or to any court which might disclose it to such a party, should be the reddest of red lines and the hardest of hard "No"s, even more so than the article takedown. If refusing to do that means "WMF will have to pull out of India and they'll block Wikipedia there", we absolutely should do that instead. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 17:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

WMF AI contests, money for all!

WMF community can be the judge of the best AI. The WMF should have a daily contest with cash rewards to the top ten winners each day. The contestants may be wise to 'team up' and share the daily money. The daily prize package should be $1,000 x top ten prizes = $10,000/day or under 4 million a year. This should pass Nobel, Pulitzer, spelling bee, prize awards soon. The daily contest is simple: The best wording for a question put to AI to produce the most accurate answer. AI investors would put up prize money for the right to be on the voting panel. AI is so far doing okay with the questions I ask, but the best results would be a team effort to get the 'almost perfect' questions. I hope to create a user page for input. Mr. Wales, please respond as soon as possible as you have all these AI companies on your speed dial and they will wonder why you responded too slow.Music Air BB (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

WMF projects aren't a platform for the promotion of whatever algorithm software marketing is currently promoting as 'artificial intelligence'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Nobody has a trophy yet for the best AI. Nobel has prizes for a few fields, the Olympics have for many. WMF could be the first and most coveted prize. Who better to judge AI than a community that has the best combined intelligence now? Let the corporations that step on the skulls of the oppressed masses pay through teeth for the right beat the largest drum. The best AI triple simile/metaphor could be the most challenging event. Music Air BB (talk) 00:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

OP has been blocked as a sock, FYI Jip Orlando (talk) 13:44, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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