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This media file has been nominated for deletion since 24 September 2024.

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Reason for the nomination:

These two files were sourced from the website of the National Weather Service Nashville office. The first image dates from around 1937-39, the other from 2006

Such sites host a mixture of content created by the US federal government (public domain) and content created by businesses and private individuals (a wide variety of free and unfree licenses).

In the absence of an explicit and proximate copyright statement, the only way we can know with any certainty whether an image supplied to the NWS by a third party is free or not is to approach its creator and ask. (And the answer has been "no" in almost every case, as documented here).

Unfortunately, both these images were published anonymously by the NWS, and because neither of them look like the kind of photo usually taken by NWS employees in the line of duty, I asked the regional office in Nashville, which published them, where they had come from. They told me:

they do not know who took either photo
they do not know where the black & white image was sourced from or where it might have been previously published

I have forwarded the conversation to the VRT. (ticket:2024092410002991)

As an image created in the United States on or after March 1, 1989, the colour photo of a tornado was protected by copyright as soon as it was taken, unless it was ineligible for copyright for some reason.

As an image created in the United States before March 1, 1989, the copyright status of the black and white image will depend on when, and the circumstances of how, it was first published. Depending on those facts, it might already be in the public domain, or might not enter the public domain until around 2060. Avenues already explored without luck include the Tennessee Virtual Archive, Nashville Public Library, and the Digital Public Library of America.

Because we cannot verify that either of them is (or was ever) available under a free license, we must delete them as a precaution unless the precise source and evidence of permission can be found.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

Rlandmann (talk) 07:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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File:Gallatin before.jpg

These two files were sourced from the website of the National Weather Service Nashville office. The first image dates from around 1937-39, the other from 2006

Such sites host a mixture of content created by the US federal government (public domain) and content created by businesses and private individuals (a wide variety of free and unfree licenses).

In the absence of an explicit and proximate copyright statement, the only way we can know with any certainty whether an image supplied to the NWS by a third party is free or not is to approach its creator and ask. (And the answer has been "no" in almost every case, as documented here).

Unfortunately, both these images were published anonymously by the NWS, and because neither of them look like the kind of photo usually taken by NWS employees in the line of duty, I asked the regional office in Nashville, which published them, where they had come from. They told me:

they do not know who took either photo
they do not know where the black & white image was sourced from or where it might have been previously published

I have forwarded the conversation to the VRT. (ticket:2024092410002991)

As an image created in the United States on or after March 1, 1989, the colour photo of a tornado was protected by copyright as soon as it was taken, unless it was ineligible for copyright for some reason.

As an image created in the United States before March 1, 1989, the copyright status of the black and white image will depend on when, and the circumstances of how, it was first published. Depending on those facts, it might already be in the public domain, or might not enter the public domain until around 2060. Avenues already explored without luck include the Tennessee Virtual Archive, Nashville Public Library, and the Digital Public Library of America.

Because we cannot verify that either of them is (or was ever) available under a free license, we must delete them as a precaution unless the precise source and evidence of permission can be found.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

Rlandmann (talk) 07:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)}} ~~~~

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DescriptionGallatin before.jpg	English: Rain-obscured photo of the April 7, 2006 tornado in en:Gallatin, Tennessee that killed nine people.
Date	7 April 2006
Source	NWS Nashville ; dead link, archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20060423043129/http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ohx/surveys/040706_radar.php
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This image is in the public domain because it was stored on the web servers of the U.S. National Weather Service. NWS-created images are automatically public domain in the U.S. since the NWS is a part of the U.S. government. However, the NWS sites also host non-NWS images which have been submitted by individuals: these are generally shown as "Courtesy of ...". Such images have explicitly been released to the public domain by the copyright owner as part of the upload process.

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Transferred from en.wikipedia; Transfer was stated to be made by User:Gopher backer. Original file description is/was here

2006-10-20 01:47 CrazyC83 640×480×8 (29219 bytes) Rain-obscured photo of the [[April 7]], [[2006]] tornado in [[Gallatin, Tennessee]] that killed nine people. From [http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ohx/surveys/040706_radar.php NWS Nashville]

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