Talk:Nikolai Lukashenko

Notability

Kolya Lukashenka fully meets the notability criteria and there are absolutely no reasons for deletion of the article.

I quote:

If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

• "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.
  • The book-length history of IBM by Robert Sobel is plainly non-trivial coverage of IBM.
  • Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton, that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band.
• "Reliable" means that sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
• "Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected. Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.
• "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent.
• "Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article. A more in-depth discussion might conclude that the topic actually should not have a stand-alone article—perhaps because it violates what Wikipedia is not, particularly the rule that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.

// Wikipedia:Notability

Czalex 07:50, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

References

Should content cited to social media posts and WP:OR be removed from this article?

Should the following content be removed? Chetsford (talk) 22:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Partially - Obviously the information sourced to Telegram messages should be removed, as should the OR, but the relevant information from the Independent should be kept. Perhaps the following passage, all of which is cited to the Independent article:

During the 2020 Belarusian protests, Lukashenko was one of the "heavily armed bodyguards" accompanying his father, who was talking to riot police and carrying an assault rifle.

Gbear605 (talk) 23:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

On 23 August, 2020, during the 2020 Belarusian protests, footage emerged of Nikolai Lukashenko at the Independence Palace in Minsk where he is shown with his father and is dressed in military uniform and is holding a gun. Later a photograph was circulated showing Nikolai armed with an automatic rifle, sitting with his father at the cabinet table in the palace.

• Yes Claims are cited to two Telegram text messages and the editor's WP:OR visual analysis of a photograph appearing in otherwise WP:RS (but which doesn't contain the actual information being claimed, or even mention Nikolai by name). We have strict and exacting WP:BLP standards. Original photographic analysis by editors and the use of text messages as sources don't meet those standards. Chetsford (talk) 22:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

  Chetsford, the fourth source specifically says "[Alexander Lukashenko] was accompanied by heavily armed bodyguards, reportedly including his 15-year-old son and preferred heir Kolya," so there's at least some information there. Gbear605 (talk) 23:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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