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Well, that was quick; thanks! — JFG talk 03:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Soyuz-U retired?

Hmm....what's your source on that the Soyuz-U variant has been retired? According to sources at NASASpaceflight.com and Novosti Kosmonavtiki, there are at least 3 more Soyuz-U left to fly (for Progress MS-3/4/5). They even have the serial numbers of the rockets left to fly..... Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 10:22, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, seems I was a bit quick in my eulogy for Soyuz-U :) -- 2016 in spaceflight listed the future Progress MS-3/4/5 flights on Soyuz-2.1a like the first two; I didn't go back to check sources. Let me rephrase accordingly. — JFG talk 11:21, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Delegate total on Republican primaries

Hi, in reference to the delegate total—in the edit you undid I just added the 42 delegates from Wisconsin. I just had a look at the total again and did a sum over all the delegates that have been allocated so far, which now comes out as 1,689. The reason the column in the table doesn't sum to the total is that there are uncommitted delegates, but I take it the "Total" there is supposed to be "total delegates allocated so far" rather than "total delegates pledged to a particular candidate". —Nizolan (talk) 17:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Nizolan:, yes this total should mean "Total delegates allocated so far", however the Wisconsin delegates were already in there (36 for Trump and 6 for Cruz). Not sure if we should add the uncommitted delegates in there, and from which source(s)... Anyway, back to fighting over-enthusiastic editors who keep changing numbers after a glance at their TV screen. — JFG talk 22:00, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, I was sure it had been the same before Wisconsin, that's why I updated. Thanks for checking. —Nizolan (talk) 22:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

(on some election page)

Why isn't NC colored gold? Hillary won that state Todd4069 (talk) 04:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Todd4069: I don't see such a problem. which page are you talking about? — JFG talk 05:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

On the Dem map NC should already be colored gold for Hillary Todd4069 (talk) 14:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Just looked at Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016 again, I see all maps colored correctly. Anyway, that would be a question for the map's author, not me. Click on the map you want to get changed, look at the file details then contact the uploader. Cheers! — JFG talk 16:53, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sorry lol apparently i don't know my states I was looking at KY. The dems haven't had the primary yet Todd4069 (talk) 00:08, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hah! Back to school I guess ;) — JFG talk 00:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Ha thanks for your diligence! Todd4069 (talk) 02:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

redirect v article

Hi. Just wanted to let you know I reverted your change back to a redirect because I feel like having a dedicated article for launch and payload is important for these very significant launches. For the past three launches, much coverage (enough to meet WP:GNG) on the launch itself rather than the payload has come up, somewhat of a shift from the past. Because of that, articles started being made for launches as well as payloads such as Falcon 9 Flight 20, Falcon 9 Flight 21, and Falcon 9 Flight 22. I see Falcon 9 Flight 23 as the continuation of that and far more notable than Falcon 9 Flight 22 because it actually worked and therefore is getting a lot more coverage in the news. It's a stub right now so it doesn't add much over the main article, but I think it's a good idea to keep the clearly notable subject on its own article so that it can be expanded in the future. Appable (talk) 07:12, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I respectfully disagree so I'll revert you a second time and invite you to take this discussion to the talk page. I'll list my arguments there. — JFG talk 09:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Republican 2016 Primary Race

Thanks for the correction and your work on the important WP article: Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016. You are entirely correct as I read:
https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf
"THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE RULE NO. 1: Organization of the Republican National Committee
(b) For the purposes of this rule and all other rules, "state" or "states" shall be taken to include American Samoa, the District of Columbia, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands, except in Rule No. 14, and unless the context in which the word "state" or "states" is used clearly makes such inclusion inappropriate."

Thanks Again, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC) -- We live in interesting times.Reply
You're welcome. I learn something new every day. — JFG talk 05:04, 11 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Many thanks! I'll be sure to use the privilege wisely. — JFG talk 13:12, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

File:U.S. States by Vote Distribution, 2016 (Republican Party).svg

Hi just wanted to notice I updated the map. The size of each pie chart is propotional to its state delegates. Although it took some time, but it is finally done!;) Ali Zifan 03:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Beautiful, thanks! — JFG talk 14:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

MEO/MTO

Hello JFG. Thanks for edits to the list. All NAVSTAR satellites are designed with apogee propulsion system, except for GPS IIF. See http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/navstar-2f.htm and http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/navstar-3.htm. All PAM-D upper stages (for IIR and IIRM series, e.g. http://www.n2yo.com/browse/?y=2000&m=7) have decayed, while Centaur/DCCS still stay on the graveyard orbit. @JFG: PSR B1937+21 (talk) 15:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks Coffee, I feel so privileged, just took a screen grab for posterity   Seriously, many thanks for this initiative, which will surely fluidify the inner workings of the encyclopedia. — JFG talk 20:19, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
I was wondering who the first "real" person with this would be! I think we've got most of the technical bugs worked out - but if you hit anything odd in logs, etc please let us know. — xaosflux Talk 21:38, 23 May 2016 (UTC) Reply
I just got started on the backlog with Catholic Church in Nigeria, worked fine; I'll keep you posted if I stumble on any issues. — JFG talk 10:54, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Timeline of spaceflight/WIP

Hello JFG,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Timeline of spaceflight/WIP for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 23:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Tpdwkouaa: As Anthony Appleyard noted, this was a temporary page to work on a new graph; this work is done now, feel free to delete the page. — JFG talk 18:30, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
No problem, in the future though, please try to keep test and WIP edits in either your sandbox, or a draft. The graph looks really good though! Thank you, Tpdwkouaa (talk) 19:06, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
You're right, I should have used the Draft namespace. — JFG talk 19:11, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Precious

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Thank you for quality contributions to articles, beginning with Paul Otlet, for clarifying the meanings of epoch, for redirects and page moves, unifying for example the pirate parties, for advocating compromise, - user of European languages and Japanese, boldly spreading mettā, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Round-robin

Hi JFG, this is about a round-robin move you performed recently. FYI, see Talk:Women's Laser Radial World Championship and Talk:Article 50. I made these redirects from the old page to the new one for the sake of completeness to avoid breaking incoming talk page links to the old page. Jenks24 recently pinged me about this issue about not breaking incoming talk page links, and I thought I'd share this with you as well.

For example, if page A had a talk page, 3 archives, and a good article nomination, swapping A and its subpages with B without the talk/subpages will turn the former A 's pages into redlinks. See WP:PMVR#rr for the details. Hope this only helps! Thanks — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 19:54, 28 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Andy M. Wang: Thanks for the note. In the case of Article 50, I didn't perform a full 3-step swap and I skipped re-creating the Talk page when I made the new redirect of Article 50 to Withdrawal from the European Union. In the case of Women's Laser Radial World Championship(s) I'm not sure why the talk page wasn't swapped properly; good on you catching the error! — JFG talk 05:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi JFG, looks like you forgot to round-robin the subpages. See Special:PrefixIndex/Talk:Syrian Civil War vs Special:PrefixIndex/Talk:Syrian civil war. Also, make sure you also update the bot archiving, e.g. Special:Diff/728327326. I'll get to this now — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 17:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot Andy! Strange... the move tool should have taken care of all the talk subpages. I'll triple-check next time. — JFG talk 18:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I've missed the "Move subpages" button or redirect button once or twice but cleanup wasn't too bad. I somehow think they should make move subpages default to users who have it to keep everything together, you know what I mean? Anyway, no problem :) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 18:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes Andy I just suggested this on Wikipedia talk:Page mover#Moving subpages should be the default action. — JFG talk 09:35, 6 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Timeline of spaceflight changes

I love your changes to the 2016 in spaceflight article! I suggest you also update Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Timeline of spaceflight working group to document the new sections and formats. --IanOsgood (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

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For timely current data updates to (and consensus building at) Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016. Guy1890 (talk) 05:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Guy1890: Thank you; I am truly humbled and honoured by your award. This episode was indeed a quite interesting exercise in sticking to facts and keeping a cool head. Funny how some editors' passion easily turns into paranoia. Thanks for your help in keeping things sane as well. — JFG talk 07:34, 5 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

??

Please see User_talk:Vkumar1216#spelling --S Philbrick(Talk) 00:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

You mean Calcutta High CourtKolkata High Court? :Sure, I fixed the spelling for him. — JFG talk 05:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
OK, thanks, but it wasn't fixed when I posted.--S Philbrick(Talk) 10:06, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Irina Yarovaya

How do you know the article does not mention Yarovaya if you do not speak Russian? Are you searching for "Яровая"? You know, in Russian we have declinations. Try seraching for "Яров".--Ymblanter (talk) 05:49, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

I can read it very well, thank you. The article only mentions the Пакет Яровой which bears Yarovaya's name, it doesn't say anything about her, and although it criticizes the contents of this legislative packet and the manner in which it was passed, it certainly doesn't support the libelous wording that was inserted into the article earlier by an IP editor (and that version was unsourced). Besides, this is just an opinion piece which probably wouldn't hold up to scrutiny as a reliable source. Please find better sources and stick to facts if you wish to expand the article. — JFG talk 07:13, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Ok. You will probably not like it in the end, but I do not care.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Quite the opposite, thanks for improving the wording and the sourcing!  JFG talk 07:54, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Sure, but I am not done yet. Finding reliable sources that she is hated by her colleagues and called "slut" in the media will be tougher, but I hope still possible. Just can not do it full time.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I don't think that would be appropriate for a WP:BLP. — JFG talk 08:09, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
It would be appropriate if this is properly reflected in reliable sources. Obviously I am not going to add this material unsourced.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:13, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Many thanks Darkwind, I'll be sure to use the privilege wisely. — JFG talk 07:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Request for closing panel

Hi JFG, I've created a discussion for finding editors for the closing panel, at the Administrator's noticeboard. The discussion is here, so this is just courtesy notice. Thanks, Kylo Ren (talk) 23:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Well, this sounds silly as the image was used in a Talk page to illustrate a debate about the naming of our New York article, which is arguably a vastly more limited and justified fair use case than publishing it in an article. But who am I to argue with robots?  JFG talk 09:03, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Move review for 2016 NFL Draft

An editor has asked for a Move review of 2016 NFL Draft. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Dicklyon (talk) 01:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

I know it's late. If there's any way you can resolve this, I'd be happy to back out the review. Dicklyon (talk) 01:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Dicklyon: Not sure what you are hinting at for me to resolve. I just posted a comprehensive answer to the move review. Let the chips fall where they may  JFG talk 15:02, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I was hoping you might say that you stand by the consensus but regret applying to a ton of pages where the issue was not advertised. Dicklyon (talk) 23:20, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
For the record (mostly towards my own potentially lapsing memory), the move decision was endorsed. — JFG talk 09:27, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to move the section

Hi JFG, saw your note at Talk:New York/July 2016 move request#Post-discussion potential move considerations. My intent was to mention that editnotices, archiving, template-namespace links, etc. would be uncontroversial and can (should) be done quickly. Didn't intend for the section to be a link/grace period discussion (which is more situation-specific). Per WP:MULTI, feel free to move that section to another page or let me know if you want me to do it (though I think you have more context). — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 14:38, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

  Done – See Talk:New York/July 2016 move consequences. — JFG talk 17:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

On MUOS-5

In the spaceflight by the years articles, the usual practice as far as I know (which is shared with all the websites dealing with such statistics, such as http://planet4589.org/space/) is that only problems related to launch vehicles that caused the spacecraft to miss its target orbit or suffer from serious damage would be counted towards any kind of failures. Problems with the spacecraft itself would not count (see e.g. the Fobos-Grunt case).

Besides, I don't see anything that shows the problem to be non-salvageable at this moment (see e.g. http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/02/navy-looks-for-plan-b-to-salvage-its-newest-communications-satellite/), so I'm not sure your wording in the 2016 in spaceflight article is warranted. Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 14:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Galactic Penguin SST, you are correct, this is a similar case to Fobos-Grun. In fact I added a long comment to clarify that the rocket was not at fault, but the stats should remain untouched; I'll revert myself on the timeline of spaceflight graph as well. Maybe we should place a note in the page explaining what is considered a failure or partial failure, in the same way as we had to explain sometimes what is and is not a spaceflight.
On MUOS-5 being salvageable, my money is rather on the army finding a creative way to use the bird in its present orbit, given the rather large ∂v requirements to move it to GSO if they can only rely on attitude-control thrusters. That would be similar to what happened to AMC-14 or Galileo FOC 1+2. — JFG talk 21:13, 9 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Closed RfM on Queen Anne of Romania

Hello, I politely ask you to reconsider your decision to close the RfM, as consensus had formed towards moving the page. Furthermore, in your decision you cite guidelines while claiming to cite policies (see WP:POLICY), so I strongly recommend you ammend your comment. I'm going to wait one more day before starting a formal move review. Thank you.Anonimu (talk) 08:32, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

I stand by my detailed close statement. I understand your position but my decision accurately reflects Wikipedian consensus (which, as nominator, it is not your job to judge). WP:COMMONNAME is part of WP:AT which is indeed policy, and has higher standing than the supporters' arguments in this case. I also cited WP:OFFICIAL which is a guideline against giving undue weight to the official standing of a name, and WP:RGW which is an essay explaining that Wikipedia is not the place to advocate for what is right and wrong, but rather to neutrally report real-world usage. Kindest regards, — JFG talk 08:46, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your comment. As I consider your decision specious, I'll proceed with the move review.Anonimu (talk) 09:04, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Enjoy! — JFG talk 09:05, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hello again. I didn't really follow the discussion on Queen Margarita of Bulgaria. However in that case it seems pretty clear that WP:COMMONNAME goes against your decision, so your rationale doesn't hold, see my comment at Talk:Queen_Margarita_of_Bulgaria#Requested_move_16_August_2016. I'm inclined to open another review on that close. Please comment. Anonimu (talk) 08:56, 17 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Common name or not, there was no consensus for the proposed change, and a new move request is already in progress with another potential title. I have no further comments on that case. — JFG talk 13:43, 18 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Move review for Queen Anne of Romania

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RfC structure

Re: [1], please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment#Statement should be neutral and brief. The question should be the first part of the text, followed immediately by your first signature. If you click through to one of the listing pages, e.g. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maths, science, and technology, you'll see that the question does not appear there. It should not only appear there, but it should be the only thing that appears there. (You'll also see that a lot of other editors are doing it wrong, too.) If you fix the RfC, the listing pages will be automatically updated before long. ―Mandruss  09:22, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Mandruss: Thanks for the note. I have amended the RFC listing accordingly. — JFG talk 10:19, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

pageswap script for convenience

Hi JFG, hope everything's going well. Thought I'd share a script here (js) that semi-automates round-robin page swaps for convenience, and thought you may want to try it out. You'd simply click "Swap" and enter a page destination, the script performs the 3 moves as necessary (saves time having to manually go through the move form 3 times). (It doesn't correct redirects afterwards, that's still manual)

Anyway feel free to adapt this script as you see fit, cheers :) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 02:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I'll be sure to try it! — JFG talk 06:02, 25 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

New York

Is New York State the primary topic for the term "New York"?

  • No, but the page's owner will stonewall any attempt to fix it, so it's time for me to move on to an area of Wikipedia that I can actually improve without getting reverted. Thanks for trying, and for preventing that filibuster from being too one-sided. Certes (talk) 12:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
I understand your frustration. I just want to illuminate the issue from yet another angle, for the benefit of all readers. Please state your opinion in the RFC. Any WP:OWNership or WP:BATTLEfield issues should be dealt with separately. Don't let anyone stonewall your voice!  JFG talk 16:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Notification about new RFC

Because you have participated in a previous RFC on a closely related topic, I thought you might be interested in participating in this new RFC regarding Donald Trump.Anythingyouwant (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Comment

Thanks for your comment on Talk:Free trade zone#Requested move 28 August 2016. For your information, see also Talk:List of Special Economic Zones in India#Requested move 28 August 2016.
128.179.146.139 (talk) 11:07, 1 September 2016 (UTC).Reply

See also Talk:Free trade area#Requested move 3 September 2016.
Juliet Jolly (talk) 12:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC).Reply

ANI notice

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1 to 100

Hi JFG, there appears to be rough consensus at the RfC you opened. I personally still don't believe in the moves actually, but it looks like they will proceed, and a potential closer will likely judge that as well. Most of the templates that should undergo changes are reasonably mentioned in the RfC afaik. I'm planning on being on semi-wikibreak in the next month or so (I'll see how that goes), so I don't know if I'll have the time to enact or properly oversee the move transition and template changes. Would you be willing to to implement the conditional logic to the year nav/dab templates? I'll be around some time I guess, and let me know if you wanted a second opinion on something — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 16:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Andy M. Wang: Thanks for the notice. I'm happy to see that consensus is forming there. We still have about a week until closing (30 days from 19 August). I'll be quite busy myself at that time, so assuming the move is approved, we should work with the closer and any other volunteers to apply the prerequisite changes to templates. It looks like there will be a debate on the titling of year pages so that would buy us time as well. WP:No deadline helps. Perhaps before you leave you could suggest an exact sequence of steps to be taken, and I can review it? When that process is settled, I don't worry about implementation. — JFG talk 17:18, 13 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Andy M. Wang: In the Talk:1 RFC, I see that you recently stroke your "(for now)" but still have an "oppose" !vote bolded. Do you really mean to oppose? — JFG talk 17:16, 18 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hi JFG, yes I do mean it, still mostly per the technical concerns. I share similar feelings with some editors who think this is a solution in search of a problem. Though if the eventual closer closes the request as having consensus, that's okay by me. I'll help out if I can. Currently, I'm worried that the closer says, "move the pages", and people start acting on them, breaking nav/dab links. I'm not enthusiastic about hatching out a technical plan until the RFC closes in favor — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 17:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
Understood. Let's see what happens. — JFG talk 05:13, 19 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Helpful hint

Extradition is state-level law, so if someone has been extradited to New York, they have been extradited to the state (even if they are physically moved to the city, extradition subjects them to the laws of the state). In case it comes up, by the way, all New York laws are state laws. The city only has ordinances. bd2412 T 16:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

@BD2412: Thanks, good to know if such cases come up again. Which article was this about? — JFG talk 21:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

RfC close

I see that a bot has removed the RfC notice concerning PT of NY [2] but I don't see any closure... you srer more experienced in RfCs I gather, what happens next? Andrewa (talk) 11:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Bots automatically expire pending RFCs after 30 days. In normal circumstances, anyone could close this one with an obvious-looking consensus, however given the sensitive nature of the discussions I have requested a formal close at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure. It may yet take a few days or weeks until an admin volunteers. WP:No deadline. — JFG talk 11:56, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
Understood thank you ... you are 'way ahead of me. I was actually wondering about ANRFC but hadn't checked there to see whether it had already happened... should have done so. Andrewa (talk) 20:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
And I see we have a volunteer. Better than weeks or months. (:-> Andrewa (talk) 20:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Hello JFP I'm close to sending out a batch of accounts for creation but I still need you to respond to the e-mail I sent you so I can continue. Thanks! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 08:35, 9 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Cameron11598: Thanks for the reminder. I just filled the form. — JFG talk 09:41, 9 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Got it, thanks Cameron! — JFG talk 07:16, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dabbling

Thanks for the comment. Have you visited The Museums?? EEng 15:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wow EEng, your love for Trump knows no boundaries! — JFG talk 15:50, 16 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Deplorables

I just wanted to offer my support for this edit, which seems broadly in line with the language we worked out together a few days ago. If you find yourself getting push back on the article talk page, let me know and I will go to bat for you on this issue. -- Scjessey (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Scjessey: Will keep watching this. Thanks for the emotional relief!  JFG talk 15:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

When archiving...

A "live" discussion that was still ongoing has been returned to the New York talk page. Please be more careful when you manually archive.  Paine  u/c 05:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Paine Ellsworth: I archived this recent thread on purpose with the rest, feeling that we all need a bit of fresh air. Of course it's your prerogative to restore it, no harm done either way. Doesn't mean that I consider the case closed, I sure don't… Now see my edits to the Talk:New York/FAQ for some humorous assessment of the 2016 saga. — JFG talk 05:46, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Fresh air's nice; however, I doubt that all of our involvement with this requested move has slowed any of us up with our other tasks. I could be wrong. In any case, that particular discussion puts us on the verge of a resolution. And it all rests with whatever Newyorkbrad decides to do. If that editor decides to withdraw their singleton close, then we can perhaps decide on a new closing panel. And if the decision is not to withdraw, either explicitly or tacitly, then we will be compelled to open a move review. Either way, we will be brought nearer to true closure.  Paine  u/c 07:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Personally I'd rather leave this episode to rest and get ready to craft a fresh move request taking into account events and new information since the non-closure of the previous one. But I'm watching your efforts with interest. — JFG talk 07:36, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, and I like the FAQ page, especially the handy history links for this ongoing saga!  Paine  u/c 08:41, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

I repaired (I hope!) your signature at WP:HIGHBEAM

At WP:HIGHBEAM, it appeared to me that your signature had become detached from your subscription request and has been moving down the page; I have moved it back to where I assume it was supposed to be. [3] If I have guessed wrong, please feel free to revert my change, and my apologies in advance for any misunderstanding. Best--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Arxiloxos: Oh yes, thanks! Looks like Lingzhi made a typo when approving me. And that reminds me of completing my registration… — JFG talk 19:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

WP:DATERANGE

Hi JFG. Just wondering how you managed to convert the year ranges with Thatcher. Did you use a script? (If you did, I'd like to know which.) Thank-you.--Nevéselbert 08:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Neve-selbert: No, I went through them manually. — JFG talk 14:01, 31 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Responding here since you pinged my name... I saw your AE comment and do not think it was fair. There are some differences between AYW and me. First, unlike him, I respected 1RR rule on the page. Second, if you look at my last edit on the page, it is essentially the same as the edit by AYW who was allegedly on the "opposite side" of the dispute. So here we go: my edit actually reflected WP:Consensus, when "partisans" from the opposite sides had happen to agree about something. Not mentioning that many other contributors made the same edit, and the content still remains on the page, meaning it does reflect a de facto consensus on the page. Third, unlike AYW, I did not WP:BATTLE by reporting other users on WP:AE, only to withdraw the request when it came to the "boomerang" action. Finally, unlike AYW, I am not an SPA focused on editing US politics from a certain POV perspective. My very best wishes (talk) 21:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

@My very best wishes: Thanks for your comments. I take good note of your defense and I believe it belongs in the AE discussion. I wouldn't describe Anythingyouwant as an SPA, I've seen his name appear in many subject areas; it's true that your areas of interest do overlap quite a bit so I understand how you might have formed this impression of him/her. — JFG talk 21:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Let's take another example. There is another contributor who was brought on WP:AE in relation to the same page [4], and he is also different. First, unlike me, she/he blatantly violated 1RR rule on the page and advocated that their 1RR violation was proper in AE statement [5]. Second, they just came back to the page after topic ban from the very same page [6]. And finally, look at their block log. This is a "serial violator". I would not be surprised if they were sanctioned. My very best wishes (talk) 21:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Sure, WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. — JFG talk 21:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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International reactions to the United States presidential election, 2016

It got over-ridden in an (edit conflict), but please discuss your (rightfully) bold changes on talk. Thanks ;)Lihaas (talk) 01:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yep, let's talk there. — JFG talk 01:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

List of Presidents of the United States

See my comment on that article's talk page. MB298 (talk) 05:48, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

@MB298: Thanks, I answered at length there. — JFG talk 06:05, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Concerning Presidential & Vice President related articles. Please be patient & wait until Trump & Pence have taken office :) GoodDay (talk) 08:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wait until January 20, 2017, PLEASE. There's not need to rush things along. GoodDay (talk) 08:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

@GoodDay: It's not a question of being impatient; it's a question of reporting facts. DT is President-elect. Barring exceptional events, he will take office and the country will move on. For the record, I would defend the same position if Hillary Clinton had been elected. — JFG talk 08:46, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
He' not the U.S. President yet, though. At the very least, his name there should be hidden, until inauguration day. One wouldn't make such edits in the infobox at Donald Trump, because one would be reverted by many. Again, be patient. GoodDay (talk) 08:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
I have added a footnote to clarify the situation. Hope this meets your agreement. — JFG talk 09:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. GoodDay (talk) 09:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Compound adjective (hyphenation)

For your information, see Talk:Fossil fuel phase-out#Requested move 17 November 2016.
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RFC Closure

Hi JFG. Regarding your recent closure at Talk:Amouli, could you describe why it was closed as not moved (other than the !vote spread)? Your closing comment didn't elaborate. I was just curious because the request was consistent with established guidelines, deferred to reliable sources, sought consistency with like articles, etc., so I wanted to try to better understand what the stronger argument was that you saw on the other side. Thank you for any clarification! ╠╣uw [talk] 19:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sure. Per WP:RMCI the closer must weigh the arguments presented in light of policy, and avoid injecting their personal opinion (luckily I have none on this subject). Supporters essentially backed your proposal to apply the WP:USPLACE guideline to article titles for Samoan localities. Opponents argued that USPLACE shouldn't apply the same way to Samoa as it applies to US states, and that WP:CONCISE and WP:COMMONNAME were stronger criteria. Potential exceptions were mentioned for ambiguous names but there was no support for blanket renamings, despite the WP:CONSISTENCY argument. Article titles are ultimately governed by the five WP:NAMINGCRITERIA, and absent any assertion that such criteria would justify the proposed long names for every Samoan locality, I had to deny the global move while leaving the door open for individual title changes. Finally, a WP:WIKILAWYER may assert that WP:AT is policy while WP:USPLACE is a guideline, so the former should carry more weight (but I didn't even consider this minor detail as relevant before being asked to justify my close). — JFG talk 21:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Falcon reentry burns

Hi, I noticed your edit comment on one of the Falcon articles about engine burns. All first stage reentry burns use 3 engines.

The landing burns can either be done with 1 engine or 3 engines. 1 engine burns are safer - especially on the ocean - because they allow impact speed to be picked with greater precision (which optimally should be 0 m/s). Imagine a rocket coming in for a landing while the drone ship is rocking on 15 foot waves. If the boat is swinging up toward the rocket, the rocket needs to rapidly adjust its speed so that it doesn't crash into the deck of the ship.

However, 1 engine burns use much more fuel than 3 engine burns. They use 1/3 the fuel per unit of time (of course. One engine lit compared to three), but they have to burn for much more than three times longer than a three engine burn due to extra gravity losses. 3 engine burns on the other hand minimize gravity losses, but allow so little margin for error when coming in for a landing that the stage often lands hard, damaging the legs or even weakening the structural integrity of the whole stage if the landing is too hard. — Gopher65talk 03:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)Reply