Talk:Sámuel Mikoviny
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Slovak? Explain — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.191.137.38 (talk) 18:52, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Sámuel Mikoviny → Samuel Mikoviny – The most frequent English spelling is without the accent over A in his first name [1] Wladthemlat (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - we're surely not going to make this the only ASCII-ized Hungarian bio on en.wp simply because some older books don't have full fonts. Modern sources which pass WP:RS "reliable for the statement being made" for Hungarian spelling have the name spelled correctly: Anthropogenic Geomorphology: A Guide to Man-Made Landforms 2010 "In the 18th century, in Selmecbánya (now Banska Štiavnica in Slovakia), a system with a water volume capacity of 7 million m 3 , according to the plans of the innovative engineer and cartographer, Sámuel Mikoviny, ..." or Sal P. Restivo Science, Technology, and Society: An Encyclopedia 2005 p612 "... Sámuel Mikoviny worked at the Stavnica (Selmec) mines. He was the first to make a consistent use of the triangular method and led a number of hydraulic construction projects. In 1849 Hungary declared its independence from Austria." In ictu oculi (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- See also archive at Talk:Paul Erdős Paul Erdős being cited as an example in WP:UE. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Strong oppose: I think Wladthemlat's argument is very misleading. For instance, English-language newspapers and sites (e. g. BBC, Reuters, Washington Post or something else) frequently use Viktor Orbán's name without the Hungarian accent, but I can say other Hungarian persons. I do not think so that we should move these articles into the variants without accents. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment The arguments above are irrelevant (what has the spelling of Orban's name have to do with this case? If anything, it only documents that the English use does not always follow the native spelling. Which is obvious.) Cherrypicking sources for preferred spelling is also not relevant. Prevalent English spelling does not mean it is correct, just that it is the prevalent English spelling. Stating that the only reason is some form of ASCII oppression is blatantly misleading, modern sources use it as well (as documented in the original reasoning), not to mention older sources, which were not dependent on encoding format.Wladthemlat (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2014 (UTC)