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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Severynsr in topic Please be cautious at Ukrainian Insurgent Army

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Regarding your recent edits of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. You may find it instructive to read Talk:Ukrainian Insurgent Army as well as Talk:Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. Brand-new editors who immediately jump into old quarrels may be viewed with alarm. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:24, 18 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

After discussion in Talk menu of this article this section was deleted. --Severynsr (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Violation of WP:1RR restriction at Ukrainian Insurgent Army

With this edit you reverted the second time in 24 hours at Ukrainian Insurgent Army. Per a notice on the article's talk page nobody is allowed to revert this article more than once per day. Please undo your change in order to avoid being blocked from editing. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Section is changed. Severynsr (talk) 20:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please be cautious at Ukrainian Insurgent Army

Please avoid making charges of vandalism in edit summaries, when the matter is clearly a content dispute. If there is any dispute about quality of sources, you can ask a WP:Reliable sources/noticeboard. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

This edit by you appears to violate the WP:1RR restriction. You are restoring for the second time in one day the list of books by V. Makar that you originally added and were removed twice by others (once by Faustian, and again by Lvivske). To avoid sanctions, please undo this change. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I wish this rules will help build good wiki content. Not politically engaged...--Severynsr (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
You could always try discussing with others. You have never posted anything at Talk:Ukrainian Insurgent Army. Use the talk page, it works! EdJohnston (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Please, look at Talk:Ukrainian Insurgent Army better and you will find that there are some my posts.--Severynsr (talk) 19:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
My mistake, you did post on May 20. EdJohnston (talk) 19:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply


I also want to say to be careful. This topic is a powder keg. I appreciate your diligence in adding to the article, I too have a strong passion for this subject, but it would be a shame if tons got added and then had to be reverted to the last stable version if things get out of hand with POV complaints or other editorial issues.--Львівське (говорити) 14:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your carryin. I think the best changes will stay on this article. --Severynsr (talk) 07:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Working on (please don't comment this section)

Polish Terror in Kholmshchyna and Polissia

At the time when Ukraine starts liberation struggle against Nazi Germany, the Polish underground organizations launch in 1941 campaign of terror against ukrainian leaders in Kholmshchyna and Polissia. This action was prepared, planned, controlled and they had systematic character. From Polish organizations die: ukrainian doctors, directors of cooperative institutions, teachers, education leaders, priests, peasants[1]. The most well-known figures of terror was Col. Y. Wojnarowskyi, Dr. M. Strutynskyi, Dr. Pavlyuk, priests S. Zaharchuk and S. Malesha[2]. The answer of ukrainians on this terror were only funeral and protests in front of the German authorities. Victims of Polish terror have tens of thousands of ukrainians[3].

Ethnic cleansing of Poles in Volhynia and Galicia

 
The mass grave of UPA victims discovered during the exhumation in Wola Ostrowiecka (August 2011)[4]

Beginning in 1943, the UPA adopted a policy of massacring and expelling the Polish population of Volhynia and Eastern Galicia.[5] The ethnic cleansing operation against the ethnic Polish population began on a large scale in late February of that year and lasted until the end of 1944.[6] In Volhynia deadly acts of aggression, including the mass murder of Poles, occurred throughout 1943 before spreading to eastern Galicia in early 1944. In June 1943, Dmytro Klyachkivsky head-commander of UPA-North made a general decision to exterminate all male Poles living in Volhynia.[7][8] July 11, 1943, was one of the bloodiest days of the massacres, with many reports[citation needed] of UPA units marching from village to village, killing Polish civilians. UPA units surrounded and attacked 99 of Polish villages and settlements in three counties – Kowel, Horochow, and Włodzimierz Wołyński.[9]

In August 1943, during the III OUN Convention [clarification needed], Roman Shukhevych accepted the "Volhynia stategy," an operation which was aimed at Poles and was to be conducted by Dmytro Klyachkivsky.[clarification needed]

The methods used by the Ukrainian nationalists in both Galicia and Volhynia consisted of killing all Poles in the villages, then pillaging the villages and burning them to the ground. Victims, regardless of age or gender, were routinely tortured to death.[citation needed]

In late 1943 and early 1944, after most Poles of Volhynia had either been murdered or had fled, the killings moved to the neighboring province of Galicia. In March 1944, the main Command of the UPA ordered the ethnic cleansing[10] of all Poles from Galicia. Unlike Volhynia, where Polish villages were destroyed and their inhabitants murdered without warning, Poles in eastern Galicia were sometimes given the choice of fleeing or being killed.[11]

By the end of summer 1944, mass acts of terror aimed at Poles were taking place in Eastern Galicia to force them to resettle on the western bank of the San river. A popular slogan during the period was "Poles beyond the San".[11] Ukrainian peasants sometimes joined the UPA in the violence,[12][clarification needed] and large bands of armed marauders, unaffiliated with the UPA, brutalized civilians.[13] In other cases however, Ukrainian civilians took significant steps to protect their Polish neighbors, either hiding them during UPA raids or vouching that the Poles were actually Ukrainians.

The total number of Poles murdered specifically by UPA is unknown. Estimates of the Polish deaths in Volhynia are over 50,000. The number of UPA victims in Volhynia, Galicia and current Poland combined ranges from 80,000 to 100,000 [14]

This section

Wy this section is bad (my thoughts)

1. Title of this section

Current title of section is «Ethnic cleansing of Poles in Volhynia and Galicia».

2. Picture

The mass grave of UPA victims discovered during the exhumation in Wola Ostrowiecka (August 2011)

  • There is no such village as Wola Ostrowiecka ON A MAP!.
  • This means that there was no exhumation in 2011.
  • There is no documents who this people were.
  • There is no documents that this are victims of UPA.

This is a very serious accusation that is not documentally confirmed.

3. References
  1. (LINK IS NOT WORKING) Leon Popek, "Zagłada Ostrówek i Woli Ostrowieckiej 30 sierpnia 1943 roku" , in: Biuletyn Informacyjny, Miesięcznik Światowego Związku Żołnierzy Armii Krajowej, No. 9 (257), Warsaw 2011, p.63
  2. Martin, Terry (December 1998). "The Origins of Soviet Ethnic Cleansing". The Journal of Modern History. 70 (4). The University of Chicago Press: 820.
  3. (LINK IS NOT WORKING) Institute of Ukrainian History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Chapter 16, pg. 247-295
  4. Tadeusz Piotrowski, Poland's holocaust. Published by McFarland. Page 247</ref>
  5. Władysław Filar, Wydarzenia wołyńskie 1939-1944. Wydawnictwo Adam Marszałek. Toruń 2008 ISBN 978-83-7441-884-3
  6. Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, Warszawa 2006, p. 329
  7. Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, p. 377
  8. Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, Warszawa 2006, p. 303-381
  9. (LINK IS NOT WORKING) Institute of Ukrainian History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Chapter 11, pg. 24
  10. John-Paul Himka wrote: "This is really a problem area because they killed so many people, civilians." In addition to Jews, he wrote, they killed 60,000 to 100,000 Poles, as well as political opponents, Orthodox clergymen, teachers of Russian and many prisoners of war from eastern Ukraine. He estimates the UPA fighters killed several thousand Jews, "but perhaps the number was much higher." [in:] In Ukraine, a movement to honor members of the World War II underground set off debates. The Washington Post. January 8, 2010
  1. ^ V. Makar - Memoirs and Thoughts: Bereza Kartuz'ka and Years of Struggle. Vol. 4, Toronto 2001 pp. 192-193.
  2. ^ Петро Мірчук, Українська Повстанська Армія. 1942-1952. Мюнхен, 1953. - 160-161 ст.
  3. ^ Вісник Любачівщини №15, Львів – 2007. – 96 стор.
  4. ^ Leon Popek, "Zagłada Ostrówek i Woli Ostrowieckiej 30 sierpnia 1943 roku", in: Biuletyn Informacyjny, Miesięcznik Światowego Związku Żołnierzy Armii Krajowej, No. 9 (257), Warsaw 2011, p.63
  5. ^ Martin, Terry (December 1998). "The Origins of Soviet Ethnic Cleansing". The Journal of Modern History. 70 (4). The University of Chicago Press: 820.
  6. ^ Institute of Ukrainian History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Chapter 16, pg. 247-295
  7. ^ Tadeusz Piotrowski, Poland's holocaust. Published by McFarland. Page 247
  8. ^ Władysław Filar, Wydarzenia wołyńskie 1939-1944. Wydawnictwo Adam Marszałek. Toruń 2008 ISBN 978-83-7441-884-3
  9. ^ Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, Warszawa 2006, p. 329
  10. ^ Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, p. 377
  11. ^ a b Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, Warszawa 2006, p. 303-381
  12. ^ Institute of Ukrainian History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Chapter 11, pg. 24
  13. ^ Jeffrey Burds (1997). "Agentura: Soviet Informants' Networks & the Ukrainian Underground in Galicia, 1944-48", East European Politics and Societies v.11 p 96
  14. ^ John-Paul Himka wrote: "This is really a problem area because they killed so many people, civilians." In addition to Jews, he wrote, they killed 60,000 to 100,000 Poles, as well as political opponents, Orthodox clergymen, teachers of Russian and many prisoners of war from eastern Ukraine. He estimates the UPA fighters killed several thousand Jews, "but perhaps the number was much higher." [in:] In Ukraine, a movement to honor members of the World War II underground set off debates. The Washington Post. January 8, 2010