Talk:Dhuni

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Latest comment: 18 years ago by Chai Walla

Please help with this page. If dhuni is not Zoroastrian in origen then please say its true source and hopefully give some references. Thank you. Chris 03:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

The Dhuni is not, as far as a know, Zoroastrian in origin. The Zorastrians have a much more elaborate fire ceremony. The dhuni is a Shaivite tradition, as far as I know. More later... —Hanuman Das 03:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

You might want to take a look at this article, and you could ask Chai Walla about the history. He most likely knows more about it than I do... He might even contribute to the article. —Hanuman Das 04:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Cott12, The article Hanuman Das pointed to is valid in general. The dhuni as stated in the article is actually the cleft in the ground. The Zorastrians, as far as I know, worship the actual fire itself. This is more commonly called "homa", though they may have there own specific name for their worship. I'm leaving the country soon, but will attempt to contribute to the article in April.--Chai Walla 18:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

The Dhuni ritual is not Zoroastrian. Since Chris (Cott12) was unsure, he should have removed it or better yet, not have added it in the first place. Stating it is a "Zorastrian fire ritual" as he originally did is minimally a violation of Verifiability policy (See also: No Original Research). Worse actually, because two of the external links he references explicitely state why the Dhuni ritual is unique. I've paraphrased those sources in my edit. Incidentally, "homa" (haoma) has nothing to do with fire-worship. -- Fullstop 13:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have edited the opening paragraph of the article to be in line with the general Dhuni teachings of the Nath Sect. The main distinction is that the ground is sacred as stated. I think this is a good start to the article. I will attempt to improve the article as time allows. Hi Chris, this is Chai Walla. I failed to log in, so will correct this now. I think we need to keep the related ideas clear. That is, the Dhuni is one thing, keeping it burning and fed is an intentional act "upon" the Dhuni. From this view we could introduce various ideas related to actions at the dhuni, ie(ritual). However the main platform concept of the Dhuni as a site- is to return to That from which we came. Thanks for starting the article.--Chai Walla 18:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thank you 216.39.162.241|216.39.162.241 for the valuable clarification and expansion. Chris 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply