Talk:Big Bang

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Hello, I noticed the first mention of the "FLRW model" does not link to an existing Wikipedia article that further expands on the first use of this acronym, and I believe that it would be a helpful addition for context. OverwhelmingOdds (talk) 00:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Fixed. CWenger (^@) 01:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Needs more sources

Every online source I have looked at says there's a lot of evidence disproving the other theories of the beginning of the universe or existence in totality. However, the Wikipedia article mentions only one, a book from 1996. Where are the rest of the sources? Galactiger (talk) 20:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've added a link to 'non-standard cosmology' in the 'See also' section. Praemonitus (talk) 01:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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The article's intro is mistaken twice

(1) A theory and one of its elements, are quite different things. The cosmos' expansion, the Big Bang momemt, tP etc. are just elements of the theory !!!!! (2) The first formulations of the Big Bang Theory were written already in 1922 by Alexander Friedmann. based upon his own equations. So currently the article is also wrong regarding the first main step of the theory.


Therefore I suggest the following intro :


According to contemporary science, The Big Bang is the first moment of the universe. Its very existence, characteristics and the physical and cosmological processes that followed, are the main elements of a theory named The Big Bang Theory. Based on his own Friedmann equations, Alexander Friedmann contributed in 1922 the origin of the theory ...... יוסי ברנע בן פנינה (talk) 01:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

This makes sense to me. Ymblanter (talk) 12:37, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Both Alexander Friedmann and George Lemaître proposed an expanding metric for the universe based on solutions to Einstein's theory of General Relativity. In 1928, Lemaître suggested that the universe may have originated at a single point -- a "primeval atom". Note that Hoyle's 1948 steady-state model allowed for an expanding universe with no big bang. Hence, an expanding universe did not necessarily imply a big bang. I think that's why Lemaître gets credited. Praemonitus (talk) 13:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I disagree on point (1). The "big bang" as an event does not even have a consistent definition within scientific discourse. It is better for the article's opening to describe the (well defined) theory instead of attempting to describe the (ill defined) event. Aseyhe (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

is Big Bang a description of a beginning for our universe?

The article mention this: "According to the Big Bang models, the universe at the beginning was very hot and very compact"

Where does the idea that the Big Bang models describe the beginning of the universe come from? It might be a spectacular event and a drastic change in the state of the universe but does that justify to talk about it as a description of the beginning of the universe?

Shouldn't the article be more cautious and simply describe the big bang theory as a prediction of the past of the universe as far in the past as the models are adequate to do so? PipMcDohl (talk) 03:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Rather than saying "According to the Big Bang models, the universe at the beginning was very hot and very compact" shouldn't the article say "At the furthest point in the past the Big Bang models is adequate to predict, the universe was very hot and very compact"