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I would like to request someone to create a new barnstar for outstanding user scripting. This is inspired by a wonderful new script that revolutionizes the ability to convert the numeric reference names generated by Visual Editor (like ":0") into meaningful names (like "Lastname-YYYY"). This is a game-changer for fixing such articles, and deserves a barnstar. I looked through the entire list of barnstars, and was very surprised that I couldn't find one aimed at someone who has designed an exceptionally useful new user script, or made major improvements to an existing one. Can someone help?
The tricky part, I guess (I'm not a graphic designer), is figuring out how to get the "scripting" idea into the design. I had a look at icons from this Google image search, I also tried this search at Commons, and the most common motif there, was this sort of scroll-paper idea, with the top and bottom rolled up a bit, like or ; or maybe a completely different approach, with something incorporating some lines of code, like a faded version of ? My understanding is, that user scripts are limited to being writen in javascript, for which a commonly understood abbreviation is "js", but I don't know if that's a hard rule that will never change, so I'm unsure about using 'js' in the design; maybe someone could weigh in on that point. Any ideas for a new scripting barnstar? Mathglot (talk) 21:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Jerium, thank you for this. I'm uncertain about the "</>" image. Here's a link to the actual javascript code in that script, just as a sample of the look-and-feel of Javascript (which I'm not familiar with). It doesn't seem to use angle brackets much, or at all, and I wonder if that inset image is a good one to bring "scripting" to mind? I'll try and find a WikiProject or other page where scripters hang out, and ping a few people who might know. What do you think? Mathglot (talk) 23:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Pinging regulars at WP:JAVASCRIPT: @Novem Linguae, Qwerfjkl, Fred Gandt, and Writ Keeper: for your opinions on what might be a good graphic element to add to this proposed barnstar. (The reason for the direct ping instead of leaving a feedback request at the page, is to hopefully keep from inviting User:N****g to his own surprise party . Also invited Graphics Lab folks.) What kind of graphic do you think would be a good one to add to a star or star-like image, to get across the idea of scripting? If scripting really is just javascript, maybe a "JS" inside one of those curly paper scroll thingies? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yeah the </> would be more appropriate to indicate markup. I've long considered if to be the most important word in high level coding (scripting), as almost everything we do will at some point require some flow control. Curly braces {} and semicolons ; are very codey. How about a good old foo; we code wranglers love us some foo. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs02:08, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
What about this, then?
if (isFoo) {
return bar;
}
Might be illegible in the context of a sub-image overlaying a star, but maybe illegibility doesn't matter: it's kind of like Lorem ipsum, it's not there to really be read, just to look right (sort of). Or would a graphic (non-text) element be better? Mathglot (talk) 02:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Fred, not a bad idea; still hoping for more feedback from Graphics or Scripting folks to see what other ideas there might be. If we go with your curly idea, how big would you make the curlies? A barnstar is pretty large (see examples at Wikipedia:Barnstars), would you blow the curlies up to full height of the star, or something less? Also, what about the star itself as far as colors, designs, even shapes? Mathglot (talk) 00:57, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Definitely wait for other feedback 👍 Something like: {
Fred, can you add some brief and very faded js code behind the star, maybe "if Foo { dot dot dot newline something something" to see how that might look? Doesn't matter if it's large enough to be easily legible, and should be faded enough that it doesn't interfere with the image, but just dark enough you can make it out if you stare at it. Mathglot (talk) 01:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is a ternary conditional statement meaning if(foo){returnbar;}else{returnbaz;}. Any good? You know these aren't images right? Probably easier with GIMP or PS (I was just trying to save the upload)
File:Scripting Barnstar-2.jpg I like that better, with that little screen in the corner. I tried adding some different text into it with "Paint" and came up with File:Scripting Barnstar-2.jpg, which you can view in situ at Template:The Scripting Barnstar/sandbox. There are several problems with it: the background shouldn't be black; the new text overlays the old text because I didn't know how to take out the characters that were already there; and, it converted it to jpg format, don't know why. But it gives the basic idea. What do you think? Maybe someone could try that idea without the background or text overlay, to see how it would look. Mathglot (talk) 23:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Demt1298 I like it. I wanted to make some adjustments though; make the umbrella bigger, tamper with the color, and add a shadow for a more 3D look and better visibility overall. I also made a version that better correlates with the userbox I created for the task force, but I haven't uploaded it. Jerium (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
or 
; or maybe a completely different approach, with something incorporating some lines of code, like a faded version of 
? My understanding is, that user scripts are limited to being writen in javascript, for which a commonly understood abbreviation is "js", but I don't know if that's a hard rule that will never change, so I'm unsure about using 'js' in the design; maybe someone could weigh in on that point. Any ideas for a new scripting barnstar? Mathglot (talk) 21:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
. Also invited Graphics Lab folks.) What kind of graphic do you think would be a good one to add to a star or star-like image, to get across the idea of scripting? If scripting really is just javascript, maybe a "JS" inside one of those curly paper scroll thingies? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
