Talk:Henry Ford

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The autobiography of Ford is linked to gutenberg.net. It should be gutenberg.org. It would be nice to update the links to the autobiography to the right address. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7213 Cheers 178.38.201.33 (talk) 15:54, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Inventions

In 1896, Henry Ford invented the car named "Ford". This car was named after him and still exists today. He is famous for this invention and also for the invention of assembly lines. This was one of his more interesting inventions. How they worked is there is a line (like in the name) of a bunch of people and they all fix one product. It could be a car. They then move onto another part of the product and everyone does a piece. This made products much easier to assemble (this includes the "assembly" part of the word).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.134.136.107 (talk) 00:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply 
Ford did not invent the automobile. As for the assembly line it was standard practice before 1890 in American meat industry. He did adapt it to autos. Rjensen (talk) 00:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2021

2601:807:8300:2810:688D:8E68:597:7A33 (talk) 19:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Volteer1 (talk) 20:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

"Ford was influential in the development of Nazism"

Ford was also widely known for his pacifism during the first years of World War I, and for promoting antisemitic content, including The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, through his newspaper The Dearborn Independent, and the book The International Jew. Ford was influential in the development of Nazism.

I have removed the sentence "Ford was influential in the development of Nazism" from this paragraph in the lead. It is unsourced, and does not appear anywhere else in the article; while there is ample sourcing to say that he promoted and distributed antisemitic materials (like publishing the Protocols of the Elders of Zion), there is nothing I see in the article saying he was "influential" in the development of Nazism. There is stuff saying that he distributed lots of antisemitic materials, there is lots of stuff saying he had a cozy relationship with the Nazis, there is nothing saying that he was "influential" in the creation of the ideology. Unless there can be found a WP:RS specifically saying this, it should not be re-added based on inference from other statements (as this constitutes WP:OR/WP:SYNTH). jp×g 04:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2021

The word “Episcopal” is misspelled; see below: 98.35.158.229 (talk) 05:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done — see Special:Diff/1013547084. Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 06:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Henry Ford cars

How many model cars did he make? CoolSoup99 (talk) 14:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2021

Get engineering degree from university of Michigan. 110.26.38.2 (talk) 13:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thank you for your interest! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 15:39, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2021

Add citations to text ("Also, at Edsel's insistence, Ford launched Mercury in 1939 as a mid-range make to challenge Dodge and Buick, although Henry also displayed relatively little enthusiasm for it.[citation needed]"

Citations as follows: King, J. (2003, June 16). Lincoln Mercury: Stumbling stepchild. Automotive News, 77(6044), 132.

Mercury. (n.d.) https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/collector-vehicles/mercury/mercury/2014.html Kievalina (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done.  Ganbaruby! (talk) 05:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

American Conspiracy Theorist Category tag

This seems to be a tag that is used far too frequently. Yes, Ford did promote some conspiracy theories but to include the category we need it to be a defining characteristic, not a secondary one. WP:CATDEF says it must be a defining characteristic. "Defining" is defined here wp:Defining:

A central concept used in categorizing articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define[1] the subject as having—such as nationality or notable profession (in the case of people), type of location or region (in the case of places), etc. For example, in Caravaggio, an Italian artist of the Baroque movement, Italian, artist, and Baroque may all be considered to be defining characteristics of the subject Caravaggio.

That he was an industrial tycoon was a defining characteristic. The same with terms like auto industry founder etc. Conspiracy theorist is one that is used in some sources, certainly to the point where we should talk about the issues. However, nowhere in the article is Ford actually called a conspiracy theorist. That means we don't have sufficient content to say, in Wiki voice, that Ford was a conspiracy theorist. Absent that we should not include the tag as the tag effectively says we are saying it in Wiki voice. (courtesy ping @Margie - remasked:) Springee (talk) 03:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I understand. It wasn't his defining characteristic. I'm taking the category out.--Margie - remasked (talk) 15:06, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Springee (talk) 15:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
The definition fits Ford exactly: " A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having" --in recent decades all the major studies I have seen emphasize his lifelong addition to conspiracy theories esp re Jews. Furthermore his name on conspiracy books on Jews helped to publicize and legitimize his fears worldwide. see Michael Alexander, Review of "Henry Ford and the Jews: The Mass Production of Hate." Jewish Quarterly Review 94#4 (2004), pp. 716-718 https://www.jstor.org/stable/1455604 online which states: "He drew upon nearly every popular anti-Semitic source available at the time, from ancient religious antagonism to the latest scientific eugenic theory." Rjensen (talk) 16:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I agree. But it seems there is just one person who keeps putting those words back in. Can't we get rid of this section entirely. And we need to delete the section on antisemitism. That also is untrue. 73.6.96.168 (talk) 10:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2021

"His ideas in this passage were vague, but they were idealistic."

Remove bias comment. 86.181.78.79 (talk) 18:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

  DoneSirdog (talk) 19:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2021

Under “Political Party” it claims Henry Ford was a Republican before 1918 and a democrat after 1918. This isn’t true. Whilst Ford did show support for Democrat Woodrow Wilson, in 1924 he outspokenly supported Republican candidate Calvin Coolidge. He even paid for adverts in newspapers to write messages of support for Coolidge - see “why I am for Calvin Coolidge” Lincoln Evening Journal, October 31st 1924 Imxandercruise (talk) 16:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: Please clarify the changes you want made and mention the specific changes in a "Please change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply