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:::::You're making an argument for BIOEXCEPT on a much narrower timeframe of only a few weeks, but the examples in BIOEXCEPT regard individuals who consistently preferred exceptional stylization for years at a time. It's my assertion you're misinterpreting the guidelines in a manner that could potentially allow for the article title to change on the whims of an election campaign manager rather than the genuine preferences of the article subject. Given the spirit of how Wikipedia handles other preference stylizations for marketing purposes – e.g. [[WP:MOSTM]] – we should allow more time to determine whether this is genuinely Vance's preference or a short-term marketing action for the purposes of an election campaign. The number of sources which 'flip' one way or another in a span of a few weeks is not compelling until editors have the opportunity to view it all in a longer timespan and determine if the subject will be ''consistent'' in preference from hereon out. [[User:AVNOJ1989|AVNOJ1989]] ([[User talk:AVNOJ1989|talk]]) 01:31, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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::Regarding your claim, in this [[WP:TEXTWALL]]   {{tq|..."you're misinterpreting the guidelines."}}   [[MOS:BIOEXCEPT]] does not say anything about "...individuals who consistently preferred exceptional stylization for years at a time."  What this ''guideline'' in fact maintains is that, [[MOS:BIOEXCEPT|'''the person has clearly declared and consistently used a preferred exceptional style for their own name; ''']].   It says nothing about "years at a time".   All the major sources, and all of Vance's websiteswebcites, nearly all the examples at [https://archive.org/search?query=jd+vance Archive.Org], along with WSJ and other accounts of Vance preferring no periods and spaces in his name, clearly tells us this is the consistent style being used. Going back in time trying to dig up exceptions doesn't change the consistency that is glaringly obvious in the present. -- [[User:Gwillhickers|''Gwillhickers'']] ([[User talk:Gwillhickers |talk]]) 17:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
 
*'''Support''' as the vice presidential candidate himself prefers no periods, per [https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/television/vol-37-no-7-jd-vance-a5c4683c this source]. Wikipedia does take in account the subject's preference, i.e. [[Hillary Rodham Clinton]] is now [[Hillary Clinton]] after her campaign said she preferred her name without her maiden name as her middle name. Many articles about transgender individuals also use the subject's preferred name. [[User:CookieMonster755|<span style="color:#0099ff">cookie monster</span>]] [[User talk:CookieMonster755|<span style="color:Orange"><small>755</small></span>]] 17:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)