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Icke said in an interview:
{{quote|When you get back into the ancient world, you find this recurring theme of a union between a non-human race and humans – creating a hybrid race.<br>From 1998, I started coming across people who told me they had seen people change into a non-human form. It's an age-old phenomenon known as shape-shifting. The basic form is like a scaly humanoid, with reptilian rather than humanoid eyes.<ref name="Scotsman2006">[
Icke claims the first reptilian-human breeding programmes took place 200,000–300,000 years ago (perhaps creating [[Adam]]), and the third (and latest) 7,000 years ago. He claims the hybrids of the third programme, which are more Anunnaki than human, currently control the world. He writes in ''The Biggest Secret'', "The Brotherhood which controls the world today is the modern expression of the Babylonian Brotherhood of reptile-[[Aryan]] priests and 'royalty'". Icke states that they came together in [[Sumer]] after "[[Genesis flood narrative|the flood]]", but originated in the [[Caucasus]]. He explains that when he uses the term "Aryan" he means "the white race."{{sfn |Icke |1999 |pp=40, 43, 52, 61}}
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