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And according to California Birth Index, he was born in Los Angeles County. So that means that Long Beach is in Los Angeles County and Cypress is in Orange County. He was definitely born in Long Beach. [[User:Arieledits2000\|Arieledits2000]] ([[User talk:Arieledits2000\|talk]]) 16:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC) ~~== Edit Request ==~~ On the car crash, there are quotation marks around serious. Not sure why, but can someone please change it? I don't have the permission yet [[User:Daeditboi\|Daeditboi]] ([[User talk:Daeditboi\|talk]]) 02:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC) :They're not scare quotes, they're literal quotes, same as "sustained major damage" in the next sentence. [[User:Jpgordon\|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon\|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 03:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC) ~~== Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2021 ==~~ ▲{{edit semi-protected\|Tiger Woods\|answered=yes}} Mr. Woods has been moved from UCLA Harborview to another Los Angeles-area hospital, Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, to continue his rehabilitation. [[Special:Contributions/76.16.47.132\|76.16.47.132]] ([[User talk:76.16.47.132\|talk]]) 15:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC) :[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg\|20px\|link=\|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources\|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> —<span style="color:#808080">[[User:Kuyabribri\|'''KuyaBriBri''']]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">[[User_Talk:Kuyabribri\|''Talk'']]</span></sup> 17:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC) ~~== "Coaches and Swing Changes" Section? ==~~ I think it would be interesting to have a "Coaches and Swing Changes" section. This has been a major theme in Tiger's career and is lightly covered in the article. I'm volunteering to chip away at it, it would be a fair amount of work to do it properly with all the right refs. Obviously don't want to do the work if there are objections or I can't edit the article because it's in a protected state. ~~There is a lot of material in the Haney book that would even apply to the Butch years. After Haney it will be harder but many notables commented on the swing changes up to the present.~~ ~~Comments? [[User:Bluepost22\|Bluepost22]] ([[User talk:Bluepost22\|talk]]) 17:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)~~ ~~==Middle name Tiger?==~~ According to the [https://dam.tmz.com/document/9c/o/2021/04/07/9cffb1c0a4ac4761b3743cc9d257c19b.pdf police accident report] [https://nypost.com/2021/04/08/tiger-woods-had-unlabeled-pill-bottle-in-suv-during-car-crash-was-somewhat-combative/ obtained by TMZ, via NY Post] it lists his full name as '''Eldrick Tiger Woods'''. If no one objects I will be changing the article as per [[WP:MOSBIO]]. --[[User:Zimbabweed\|Zimbabweed]] ([[User talk:Zimbabweed\|talk]]) 20:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC) ~~:Middle name is "Tont" per birth certificate cited in Sounes book ''Wicked Game''. [[User:Tewapack\|Tewapack]] ([[User talk:Tewapack\|talk]]) 22:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)~~ ~~::Also, in divorce papers [http://a.espncdn.com/i/mag/blog/2010/thefile/0825woods.pdf here]. [[User:Tewapack\|Tewapack]] ([[User talk:Tewapack\|talk]]) 22:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)~~ ~~:::Is it possible he legally changed his name? I am currently looking for more sources. --[[User:Zimbabweed\|Zimbabweed]] ([[User talk:Zimbabweed\|talk]]) 00:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)~~ ::::A cop's entry on an accident report is not a very definitive source at all. [[User:Jpgordon\|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon\|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 02:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC) ~~== Tiger proofing ==~~ :{{notdone}} You'll need to provide some good sources for your claims. [https://www.pgatour.com/player/08793] says "BIRTHPLACE Cypress, CA" [https://www.europeantour.com/players/218/] says "Cypress, California, USA" and many other sources agree. Wikipedia is interested in [[WP:Verifiability, not truth]] and generally we prefer secondary sources to primary ones. [[User:Nigej\|Nigej]] ([[User talk:Nigej\|talk]]) 17:07, 31 March 2023 (UTC) It never is good when a Wikipedia article is so ignorant like this. Lengthening courses does not remove the advantage from long hitters. Quite obviously so, it givens them MORE of an advantage. Just common sense that a course that plays to your strength will be better for you. And obviously, a course where the shorter hitters are hitting a 6 iron on their second shot while the longer hitters hit 8 iron is better for them than a longer course where they are hitting a 3 iron to their opponents 6 iron. MUCH bigger difference in accuracy/control between a 3 and 6 iron and a 6 and 8 iron. The term "Tiger proofing" was made up by race baiters out of sheer ignorance. Courses desperately WANTED Tiger to play their tournaments. Since it obviously meant more fans and more money. And since Tiger always played a very reduced schedule, basically playing the majors, the Players and WGCs and then whatever tournament were sponsored by companies he had deals with, tournaments bent over backwards to make their course MORE enticing to Tiger. And THAT is why they lengthened their courses. To make it BETTER for Tiger. Because again, plain old common sense should tell you that longer courses favor longer hitters, just as courses with narrow fairways and deep rough favor more accurate hitters. [[Special:Contributions/69.112.239.6\|69.112.239.6]] ([[User talk:69.112.239.6\|talk]]) 02:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC) * Wikipedia doesn't speculate about the impact of what the management of a course is doing. It's not "ignorant". We are a [[WP:TERTIARY\|tertiary source]], and as such we write with prose that is supported largely by [[WP:SECONDARY\|secondary sources]], as the passage you are complaining about has done. If you can find sources that make this article less "ignorant", by all means please provide them in the article supporting prose that contradicts what is already said, or post them here on the talk page and we can do it for you. --[[User:Hammersoft\|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft\|talk]]) 03:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC) == Billionaire status == ~~== Allegation not supported by evidence ==~~ Should be added that he is one of the 4 athlete billionaires (along with [[LeBron James]], [[Michael Jordan]], and [[Magic Johnson]]), according to [[Forbes.com]] ([https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattcraig/2022/06/10/tiger-woods-officially-a-billionaire-no-thanks-to-the-saudis/?sh=24226865da03]). [[Special:Contributions/65.88.88.56\|65.88.88.56]] ([[User talk:65.88.88.56\|talk]]) 22:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC) == Tiger shot a 48 on the par 31 Navy Course-Cruiser at age three. == the section on 2021 car crash says that Woods was speeding. The articles linked to this statement do not say he was speeding. They say that that stretch of road sometimes has accidents due to speeding, but not that Woods was speeding. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:506:C801:415E:6FAD:6061:DA91\|2A00:23C4:506:C801:415E:6FAD:6061:DA91]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:506:C801:415E:6FAD:6061:DA91\|talk]]) 07:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC) :I'm confused by your comment. This reference https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-07/la-county-sherriff-says-speeding-caused-tiger-woods-crash (ref 246 currently) says "Tiger Woods was speeding when he crashed an SUV in Southern California less than two months ago, authorities said Wednesday." etc. [[User:Nigej\|Nigej]] ([[User talk:Nigej\|talk]]) 07:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC) The information needs to be refined in Tiger’s main wiki page because the implication is that he was playing a full length 9 hole golf course. Cruiser Course description is available on Navy Golf Course, Cypress CA website. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:BA0:9B00:7054:FB50:C9D9:98E1\|2600:1700:BA0:9B00:7054:FB50:C9D9:98E1]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:BA0:9B00:7054:FB50:C9D9:98E1\|talk]]) 20:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ~~== Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2022 ==~~ == His ancestry == ~~{{edit semi-protected\|Tiger Woods\|answered=yes}}~~ ~~Change~~ ~~"For the record, he is one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African American and one-eighth Native American."~~ to ~~"Woods is one-fourth black, one-fourth Thai, one-fourth Chinese, one-eighth white and one-eighth American Indian."~~ ~~because this is the actual quote from the source linked in the article.~~ Would one of you gatekeepers please clarify the phrase 'In 2002, ESPN claimed: "For the record, he is one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African..."'. The last 'he' mentioned before this is Tiger's father, so it isn't clear whether the 'he' in the quote refers to the father or actually to Tiger himself. I'm guessing the latter, but if I'm mistaken, my apologies. [[Special:Contributions/96.244.220.221\|96.244.220.221]] ([[User talk:96.244.220.221\|talk]]) 01:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC) ~~However, the reality is closest to this which should be reflected.~~ == "[[:Mindy Lawton]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|Redirects for discussion]] == ~~"He is African American, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Caucasian, part Chinese, and part Native American."~~ [[File:Information.svg\|30px]] The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mindy_Lawton&redirect=no Mindy Lawton]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect\|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 9#Mindy Lawton}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Jlwoodwa\|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa\|talk]]) 01:39, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == "[[:Jamie Jungers]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|Redirects for discussion]] == [[File:Information.svg\|30px]] The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jamie_Jungers&redirect=no Jamie Jungers]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect\|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 9#Jamie Jungers}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Jlwoodwa\|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa\|talk]]) 01:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == GA concerns == Sources come from Earl Woods wikipedia page and the fact that his mother was of African and European ancestry, indicating Earl Woods is likely 3/4 African American (1/2 from his father and 1/4 from his mother) meaning Tiger is 3/8 African American. Having so many fractions is confusing, so I have suggested the wording above. Noting the Chinese and Native American ancestry through Earl Woods is so far undocumented. I am concerned that this article no longer meets the [[WP:GA?\|good article criteria]]. Some of my concerns are outlined below: The sources available suggest Kultida Woods is 1/2 Thai, 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 Caucasian (Dutch). This confirms Tiger Woods is 1/4 Thai, 1/4 Caucasian (1/4 Kultida and 1/4 Earl), but given Earl's Chinese ancestry is undetermined Tiger's is undetermined (minimum 1/8 through Kultida). [[User:Bhamdito\|Bhamdito]] ([[User talk:Bhamdito\|talk]]) 01:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC) :[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg\|20px\|link=\|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> As there's really no way to find out the exact ethnic admixture, I think using a quote is probably the safest way to handle it. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish\|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish\|talk]]) 11:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC) The article has uncited text, including an entire paragraph. ~~== Can we explain the meaning of Eldrick? ==~~ The lead is quite long: is all of this information necessary and in the article body, or can some of it be summarised more effectively? Is anyone interested in addressing the above concerns, or should this go to [[WP:GAR]]? [[User:Z1720\|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720\|talk]]) 00:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC) Wikipedia doesn't have a separate article about the name, and apparently he is the only notable Eldrick.— [[User:Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span>]] • [[User talk:Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#aa4400"> talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contribs/Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#700">contributions</span>]] • 22:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC) :It's the same name as [[Ælfric]] and [[Eldridge]], among others. [[User:Jpgordon\|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon\|𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇]]</small></sup> 04:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC) ::Which is not explained anywhere in this article. And the meaning is not explained in those articles either.— [[User:Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span>]] • [[User talk:Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#aa4400"> talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contribs/Vchimpanzee\|<span style="color:#700">contributions</span>]] • 19:00, 7 April 2022 (UTC)