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'When I heard this,' Maharishi said to Harrison during this visit, 'I knew the Beatles were angels on earth. It doesn't matter what John said or did, I could never be upset with angels.' On hearing that, George broke down and wept." If reliable secondary sources can be found it could be added to the [[The Beatles in India]] article but I think it is gives undue weight to a minor event to have it here in this BLP.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:Keithbob\|<b style= "color:#085;"><i>Keithbob</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:Keithbob\|<span style="color:#035;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 22:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC) ~~== p o v ==~~ If you want to write pages of your own opinion upon any subject or person - write a book. But stop claiming ANY encyclopedic interests or intensions for your "work". This very article is a waste of bytes and time, it is no b-class quality it's z-class, at most! Instead of relying on a ridiculously small number of sources (partially Maharishi's own writings, my dear, whom do you want to kiddy?) you could at least point out that it's by far not that easy to find some more neutral and objective depictions and works about this man. I don't have to mention the complete and obvious lack of any critical section, do I? And it wasn't hard to overlook that one little phrase - referring to a critical documentary about TM - as you wished all possibly annoying thoughts away and kept praising Maharishi within the very same sentence. That's a professional way how to deal with multiple views and judgements on a person, congratulations. Most entertainingly, you've ignored the fact that the former head of TM was the origin of most of the ideas how to generate money out of nothing, out of the wish to meditate and become a better human. The first thing you would have to do to begin a first course is: paying the bill. When you climb up the ladder of self-improvement, you'll continously pay the bill. And, highly surprisingly, your efforts and progress are promising and you can lose your money, I mean climb up further - there are just no boundaries... Of course, open criticism, free speech, own thoughts, a plurality of opinions, individuality and personal independence would be so.... redundant... Just spend your funds and henceforth improve the world, the interior world of Maharishi's briefcase, namely. The greedy, manipulative cult-charactre of TM that made the organisation comparable to scientology traces back to this very man, Maharishi. To pretend frugal ways of living - to the point of ascetism - while earning countless mountains of money and rejoicing at any promiscious opportunity could be worthy to be mentioned, I assume... I wish I could have acknowledged anything non-onesided, any further knowledge, at least a very little rest of honesty in his living, any philosphically or spiritually noticable thoughts of his, any small details I could have not yet known - but no, in vain. It remains a commercial for Maharishi and TM. Criticism is impure, methinks, as well as thinking. ~~Erasing the whole of this article would be the first act of true encyclopedic work.~~ Thank you <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.66.18.26\|91.66.18.26]] ([[User talk:91.66.18.26\|talk]]) 20:23, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> ~~{{reflist}}~~ == Self identification == Line 79 ⟶ 38: Probably should adjust the info box too. ([[User:Littleolive oil\|Littleolive oil]] ([[User talk:Littleolive oil\|talk]]) 03:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)) ~~== External links modified ==~~ ~~Hello fellow Wikipedians,~~ I have just added archive links to {{plural:1\|one external link\|1 external links}} on [[Maharishi Mahesh Yogi]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=686101518 my edit]. If necessary, add {{tlx\|cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{tlx\|nobots\|deny{{=}}InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes: Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090901083720/http://www.mvmpslko.com:80/chairman.html to http://www.mvmpslko.com/chairman.html :Of course Maharishi self-identifies as Hindu. He was a disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. [[User:Sparaig2\|Sparaig2]] ([[User talk:Sparaig2\|talk]]) 07:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC) ~~When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the ''checked'' parameter below to '''true''' to let others know.~~ == Hagiography == ~~{{sourcecheck\|checked=false}}~~ Maharishi was one of the most controversial new religious figures of the 20th century. You would not know anything about that from this entry. It’s a propaganda piece, pure hagiography clearly written from a biased POV. [[User:Blackmetalskinhead\|Blackmetalskinhead]] ([[User talk:Blackmetalskinhead\|talk]]) 07:57, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Cheers. —[[User:Cyberbot II\|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II\|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner]]:Online</sub></small> 00:49, 17 October 2015 (UTC) :You are welcome to your opinion but that doesn't really help to improve the article; please provide specific, reliably-sourced information to support your assertion so that this issue can be addressed.--[[User:Shantavira\|Shantavira]]\|[[User talk:Shantavira\|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 11:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC) ~~== External links modified ==~~ :I'm surprised there is no "Controversy" section! I suggest that links be accumulated here for materials to be considered as citations. I will contact appropriate people to contribute to this article, and I hope others will do the same. I'm sure this article needs going over for accuracy, too. ~~Hello fellow Wikipedians,~~ :The "Controversy" section of the Wikipedia entry on Transcendental Meditation barely touches on this issue. :Bits for research: :https://www.cultnews101.com/2020/02/why-i-left-transcendental-meditation.html :Bob Kropinsky won the first lawsuit against TM for fraud and negligence :"'Psychological Damage' from TM Found Worth $137,890," The Washington Times, Metro (Jan 14, 1987), 5B. :POSSIBLE RESOURCES :Cult Awareness Network :TM-EX :Patrick Ryan :http://alt.tm.universal-path.org/tm_um.htm [[User:Bobsterz\|Robert A. Yourell]] ([[User talk:Bobsterz\|talk]]) 10:37, 22 May 2020 (UTC) == Maharishi has been honored by the Indian government several ways recently. How to include this? == I have just modified {{plural:1\|one external link\|1 external links}} on [[Maharishi Mahesh Yogi]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=729234071 my edit]. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit [[User:Cyberpower678/FaQs#InternetArchiveBot\|this simple FaQ]] for additional information. I made the following changes: Added archive http://archive.is/aKXW to http://auaa.in/?page_id=31 Maharishi was honored by the creation of a new award, the Maharishi Dhanvantari Award, created by the Indian government in the memory of MMY and meant to honor people who have done serious work to spread Ayurveda world wide. Note that Maharishi's picture appears on the award itself as presented by the AYUSH minister: [https://www.facebook.com/IndiaInNetherlands/photos/a.345672965499792/1869198863147187 Minister of AYUSH Shripad Naik & Ambassador Venu Rajamony presented the Maharishi Dhanvantari award to Padmabhushan Vaidya Devendra Triguna, President of the All India Ayurveda Congress & Mr Tony Nader, Head of the Maharishi International Transcendental Meditation movement.] ~~When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the ''checked'' parameter below to '''true''' or '''failed''' to let others know (documentation at {{tlx\|Sourcecheck}}).~~ * * The AYUSH Ministery issued a 2019 calender to honor “Path-finding visionaries who have appeared in the different streams of AYUSH systems at different times in history and contributed their valuable share to the growth and development of respective practices.” Maharishi is the person honored in the month of January with the words: [https://www.amazon.in/Wall-callender-2019-Ayush-Calendar/dp/B07MLDS9GV?fbclid=IwAR0il64ybVImLQiNbOuMw5XmbyJvRqQMfbR6MHi4I1k3alI47DTvgnX7mkg “Known for original contributions to Yoga and Meditation, he is remembered most for developing the Transcendental Meditation technique.”] * There is a rumor that the Indian government is also issuing a commemorative postage stamp in MMY's honor, but I haven't see that yet. ~~{{sourcecheck\|checked=false}}~~ How does one include these kinds of things in this article?[[User:Sparaig2\|Sparaig2]] ([[User talk:Sparaig2\|talk]]) 10:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC) Cheers.—[[User:Cyberbot II\|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II</sup>]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II\|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner</span>]]:Online</sub></small> 21:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC) :By supplying [[WP:RS\|reliable sources]] to support your information; not Facebook posts and rumours.--[[User:Shantavira\|Shantavira]]\|[[User talk:Shantavira\|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 11:12, 16 February 2020 (UTC) ~~== Michel Corbold disciple of Maharishi ==~~ == Material removed and questionable material == Michael Freedman a Spiritual Teacher is a noted person in New Zealand and disciple of Maharishi. He is recognized in NZ for his contribution to alternative spirituality and also to TM. Where he continued Maharishi's work and was instrumental to teaching/providing TM to over 10,000 people in NZ. One should not judge nor compare to pop stars like the Beatles etc.. of international fame. Rather should include persons whom were disciples of Maharishi whom continued the TM meditation and spiritual work. Corbold was a major figure in New Zealand alternative spirituality. He died in 1996. Unlike the Beatles who did things for publicly stunts, he worked quietly and it is difficult to find out information. That he was a disciple of Yogi, can be Australian newspaper links (previously provided but removed by censorship of wiki editor). Corbold has a section of Prof Ellwood research book Islands of the Dawn, alternative spirituality in NZ; and is also within Prof Donovan's Beliefs practices in New Zealand (Massey University study) and also Michael Howards' Modern Wicca and is mentioned in other publications such as New Zealand Listener etc. He founded the TM Research Foundation and TM Society in NZ (see Companies Office of NZ records), these with the cooperation of Professors from the University of Auckland School of Medicine' was well known among medical practitioners in this country for the TM course which helped over 10,000 person in this small country. Can the same be said for the Beatles ! All this information is available publicly. Persons included on this page, should not have to compare with pops tars like the Beatles or the Beach Boys but be measured by there contribution to TM. It is like saying someone famous in Fiji won't get a mention, because they are not super pop music stars. That is not what encylopedic content is about. What should be the measure is, what verifiable disciples of Yogi have made an international or national influence in terms of Yogi teachings and meditation methods. Notable characters are those that continued Maharishi's work nationally should be included in this page, so long as it can be verified. Very few persons can compare to the Beatles pop group and they are not even spiritual teachers. Other than Ravi Shankar who can you tell has any real spiritual legacy to Yogi and continued his work as a true master to disciple. Michael Corbold is one such person. I ask the authorities here at Wiki to include Michel Corbold in this page. Faithfully Lenny (jeandecabalis@aim.com) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/203.109.208.248\|203.109.208.248]] ([[User talk:203.109.208.248#top\|talk]]) 02:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I have removed claims related to TM published by [[David Orme-Johnson]] given his obvious conflict of interest with the subject matter. Further, I question the material regarding Yogi's celibacy sourced to the book by Tony Anthony as making unsupported conclusions. Anthony claims, essentially, that since Maharishi insisted on celibacy from his pupils, he, himself, must also have been celibate. This is a specious argument at best. I invite {{ping\|Will M Davis}} to discuss this matter. [[User:WikiDan61\|<span style="color: green;">WikiDan61</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61\|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61\|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 15:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC) :Further to WikiDan's comments, as I pointed out[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi&diff=prev&oldid=1239294919] when I removed the Anthony content after it was added the second time, the book is evidently [[WP:SPS\|self-published]]. The ostensible publisher, "Montgomery Wood Publishing", seems to be merely a name given to the author's own efforts to publish the book. There is no evidence of any other books by this publisher on e.g. worldcat, and no evidence that they exist. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#4682B4 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#4682B4 -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Cambial Yellowing\|<i style="color:#999900">Cambial </i>]]— [[User talk:Cambial Yellowing\|<b style="color:#218000">foliar❧</b>]]</span> 18:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)