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==Notability==
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== Should content cited to social media posts and WP:OR be removed from this article? ==
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Should the following content be removed? [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 22:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:*{{Xt|"it states that NL attended a parade with his father"}} Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not, in fact, Nikolai's Outlook Express calendar. We don't generally include the minutia of an individual's life; where they ate lunch on the 3rd day of August, what event they were a spectator at on the 12th day of September, what time they woke up on the 4th day of October, etc., merely because we have that information available. See [[WP:NOTNEWSPAPER]], [[WP:UNDUE]], [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE]], and our numerous other, related policies. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 10:43, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' I'm not quite convinced by these sources; it may be a BLP violation. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:#FF8C00; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''333'''</span>]] 23:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' Strong sourcing is required for any claims in any BLP, and I am unsure that this photo content is even directly relevant in this BLP. I have seen such misused in the past to make implications about people, and photos are about the weakest "evidence" around. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 12:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
===References===
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==Lukashenko's rumored illegitimacy==
 
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The article states, sourced to this reference [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/06/belarus-nikolai-lukashenko]:
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*'''Remove''' In the 21st Century, why is this even an issue? [[User:Cordyceps-Zombie|Cordyceps-Zombie]] ([[User talk:Cordyceps-Zombie|talk]]) 12:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' per Chetsford. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:#FF8C00; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''333'''</span>]] 16:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''', although it's worth noting the exact portion of the ''Guardian'' article that nominally supports this claim: {{tq|Kolya, however, is Lukashenko's son by his personal doctor, Irina Abelskaya, as he admitted last year. Alexander Milinkevich, an opposition leader and former presidential candidate, said of Kolya's public profile: "Most Belarusians are very negative about it, especially Orthodox believers and the elderly who respect family values."}}. If a more impartial and reliable source than an opposition leader's off-the-cuff comments can be found, it could potentially be valid to add mention of this. But if this is the best source we can find, it's not enough for inclusion. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 18:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' Personal comments about illegitimacy are in the same general area as sexuality and other issues of marginal value at most. Though it might be fun to add a few paragraphs on Henry VIII, as he is dead. And a bunch of others. But. this person is alive, and while WP has a huge number of bad BLPs now, it is not worth it to add another. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 12:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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== Languages ==
 
I couldn't find anything in footnote 14 to indicate that he speaks Chinese. Also, does he speak Belarusian? [[User:Kdammers|Kdammers]] ([[User talk:Kdammers|talk]]) 02:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
:: I know this was nearly a year ago, but thank you for bringing this up, {{u|Kdammers}}. It appears the passage has since been corrected, which is excellent. In answer to your question: maybe? To my knowledge, he's only been seen speaking Russian publicly, as well as some broken English. It might even a bit generous to state (in wiki-voice) that he "speaks English", honestly.