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{{Old AfD multi |date=24 September 2020 |result='''keep''' |page=Nikolai Lukashenko}}
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==Notability==
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== Should content cited to social media posts and WP:OR be removed from this article? ==
Should the following content be removed? [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 22:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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:*{{Xt|"it states that NL attended a parade with his father"}} Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not, in fact, Nikolai's Outlook Express calendar. We don't generally include the minutia of an individual's life; where they ate lunch on the 3rd day of August, what event they were a spectator at on the 12th day of September, what time they woke up on the 4th day of October, etc., merely because we have that information available. See [[WP:NOTNEWSPAPER]], [[WP:UNDUE]], [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE]], and our numerous other, related policies. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 10:43, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' I'm not quite convinced by these sources; it may be a BLP violation. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:#FF8C00; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''333'''</span>]] 23:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' Strong sourcing is required for any claims in any BLP, and I am unsure that this photo content is even directly relevant in this BLP. I have seen such misused in the past to make implications about people, and photos are about the weakest "evidence" around. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 12:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
===References===
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==Lukashenko's rumored illegitimacy==
{{closed rfc top|1='''Consensus to remove statement''':Like Chestford mentioned, the statement only exists to humiliate the subject. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Unnamed anon|contribs]]) </small>
The article states, sourced to this reference [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/06/belarus-nikolai-lukashenko]:
{{c quote|"Alexander Lukashenko has faced criticism for having Nikolai out of wedlock."}}
Should this be removed? [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 11:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' The sentence is about criticism the elder Lukashenko has received, not the younger one, and the inclusion of this sentence here offers no encyclopedic value and is designed only to humiliate and dehumanize the subject. Our BLP policies preclude this content; specifically, [[WP:BLPGOSSIP]] says we should weigh content as to whether ''it is relevant to a disinterested article about the subject'' and also [[WP:AVOIDVICTIM]] which guides that ''When writing about a person noteworthy only for one or two events, including every detail can lead to problems—even when the material is well sourced. When in doubt, biographies should be pared back to a version that is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic. This is of particular importance when dealing with living individuals whose notability stems largely or entirely from being victims of another's actions.'' [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 11:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' In the 21st Century, why is this even an issue? [[User:Cordyceps-Zombie|Cordyceps-Zombie]] ([[User talk:Cordyceps-Zombie|talk]]) 12:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' per Chetsford. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:#FF8C00; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid #FF8C00;">'''333'''</span>]] 16:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''', although it's worth noting the exact portion of the ''Guardian'' article that nominally supports this claim: {{tq|Kolya, however, is Lukashenko's son by his personal doctor, Irina Abelskaya, as he admitted last year. Alexander Milinkevich, an opposition leader and former presidential candidate, said of Kolya's public profile: "Most Belarusians are very negative about it, especially Orthodox believers and the elderly who respect family values."}}. If a more impartial and reliable source than an opposition leader's off-the-cuff comments can be found, it could potentially be valid to add mention of this. But if this is the best source we can find, it's not enough for inclusion. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 18:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Remove''' Personal comments about illegitimacy are in the same general area as sexuality and other issues of marginal value at most. Though it might be fun to add a few paragraphs on Henry VIII, as he is dead. And a bunch of others. But. this person is alive, and while WP has a huge number of bad BLPs now, it is not worth it to add another. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 12:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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== Languages ==
I couldn't find anything in footnote 14 to indicate that he speaks Chinese. Also, does he speak Belarusian? [[User:Kdammers|Kdammers]] ([[User talk:Kdammers|talk]]) 02:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
:: I know this was nearly a year ago, but thank you for bringing this up, {{u|Kdammers}}. It appears the passage has since been corrected, which is excellent. In answer to your question: maybe? To my knowledge, he's only been seen speaking Russian publicly, as well as some broken English. It might even a bit generous to state (in wiki-voice) that he "speaks English", honestly.
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