Talk:Congenital iodine deficiency syndrome: Difference between revisions

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I got rid of the nonsense about Balzac and massacres. It was apparently based on a misreading of a single French website speculating that cretins might have been the origin of the [[woodwose]] legends. The original contributor didnt bother to actually read the Balzac source, which says nothing of the kind. There are lots of prima facie problems with this hypothesis and it doesnt warrant inclusion here without better sourcing. [[User:Alteripse|alteripse]] 15:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 

First, I agree that Christian is the most commonly cited dictionary etymology but most of the online dictionary derivations derive from the same source. It doesnt make sense to provide a single etymology in the first sentence and then later on explain that it is uncertain and there have been other alternatives.

 

I looked at your user page. It doesnt match this behavior. Are you having a bad day? [[User:Alteripse|alteripse]] 18:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 

I know its the talk page. You were the one making changes without discussing them here and I posted the note on your user page as a courtesy notice, not an affront.

 

I won't change it til you respond but the dictionary list does not belong in the article. [[User:Alteripse|alteripse]] 18:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 

It is one of the oldest of the explanations and the one I have seen most often. Here is a long article on this topic from the Atlantic Monthly of 1858: [http://www.disabilitymuseum.org/lib/docs/1385.htm]. [[User:Alteripse|alteripse]] 19:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 

OK, how about

''The connecting meaning between '''Christian''' and '''cretin''' is not obvious. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term ''Christian'' is a reminder of the humanity of the afflicted, a human "creature" in contrast to brute beasts. Other sources have suggested ''Christian'' refers to the inability to sin of a person who lacks the capacity to distinguish right from wrong.'' I don't like the piece of the OED phrase by itself because I don't think we need to remind the reader that french is a romance language, and whether the term cretin originated in post-latin pre-french dialect that eventually became helvetian, provencal, or lyonnais french, or left no offspring, is beyond secure knowledge and the needs of this article. Isn't the simpler version faithful to the meaning? [[User:Alteripse|alteripse]] 20:06, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 

Just a small note or suggestion as to the etymology of the word cretin. A lecturer told me it was from post crusade times, when they found all the iodine deficient christians who had been driven to the alps by the muslims. Since there was a lack of iodine those people produced such symptoms and the muslims had used the local (basque i think it was) word for 'christian' to name them...and so cretin became synonomous with iodine deficiency and the big neck hyperetc

 

Just wanted to note that '''cretin''' (meaning "Christian") was also another word used to describe [[intellectual disability]], but like idiot, imbecile, moron, mongol, and retard, have been replaced because of their offensive connotations. This disease is clearly relating to '''Congenital iodine deficiency syndrome''' as per the image, and should be renamed as such. The religious connotations of the current article is evident, and unacceptable in modern society [[Special:Contributions/182.255.99.214|182.255.99.214]] ([[User talk:182.255.99.214|talk]]) 09:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)