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== WW 1 casualties ==
I checked the cited source [[David Fromkin]] , ''[[A Peace to End All Peace]]'', p.213 on Google books. [https://books.google.com/books?id=OV0i1mJdNSwC&q=armemian#v=onepage&q=armemian&f=false] The edit @ WW1 casualties is correct and the source reliable--[[User:Woogie10w|Woogie10w]] ([[User talk:Woogie10w|talk]]19:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
::[[User:Woogie10w|Woogie10w]], your point does not support the text in the article. The footnote text alleges that the Armenian Genocide and its 1.5 million victims is a "distorted work of wartime propaganda". It is not. The historical truth of the AG and the 1.5 million figure is accepted in all books about the Armenian Genocide except those that seek to deny it; these books were published in the 2010s, 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, etc. Such books cannot be called "wartime propaganda". The footnote above it states unequivocally "The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been 1.5 million". [[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield|Tiptoethrutheminefield]] ([[User talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield|talk]]) 20:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
==Sevres treaty==
Regarding your edits here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treaty_of_S%C3%A8vres&type=revision&diff=721411286&oldid=721395824], while I think you have gone too far with renaming the Wikilinks, there is a general problem with these articles being riddled with Turkish propaganda lies - I've already removed the lies regarding the Sevres Treaty and Armenia - and work is needed to eliminate this. The claim that the terms were "far more severe than those imposed on the German Empire" is obviously a pov opinion and seems out of place in the lede, and one that also seems to have little basis in fact (the German Empire was required to relinquish all of its possessions, unlike the Ottoman Empire, was effectively abolished as an empire, unlike the Ottoman Empire, and its leader required to abdicate and be prosecuted for war crimes, unlike the Ottoman Sultan). The lede linked [[Partitioning of the Ottoman Empire]] is similarly full of lies and distortions. [[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield|Tiptoethrutheminefield]] ([[User talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield|talk]]) 19:34, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
== WW1 Casualties ==
I have initiated a discussion of the source A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire at Talk:World War I casualties. If you get a chance please add your thoughts on this source. Regards --[[User:Woogie10w|Woogie10w]] ([[User talk:Woogie10w|talk]]) 20:51, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
== Erlikman ==
If you can read Russian, I will gladly send jpgs from his book. berndd11222@gmail.com Regards--[[User:Woogie10w|Woogie10w]] ([[User talk:Woogie10w|talk]]) 23:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
I recommend "The Armenian Genocide" by Raymond Kevorkian. It was a bit tedious but well worth reading. I try to stay off Wikipedia and keep up on my reading.--[[User:Woogie10w|Woogie10w]] ([[User talk:Woogie10w|talk]]) 23:22, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
'''stop vandalism in all the pages!!!'''
if you can justify all the terrorist acts against Azerbaijanis and Azerbaijan then prove it please, by using strong evidences (sure except Armenian sources), if you don't have then please, have respect to the others.−−[[User:Freedom Wolfs|Freedom Wolfs]] ([[User talk:Freedom Wolfs|talk]]) 00:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
::Oatitonimly, I see you have been attempting to remove the worst of a [[Grey Wolves (organization)|toothless old wolf]]'s propaganda. I've pov tagged some of his recent creations, if you want to do more pov tagging it would be a better way of getting the articles fixed. If you explain on the talk page what is wrong with the content and then pov tag the article, that opens the way for offending content to be removed so that the pov tag can be removed. If Freedom Wolfs reinserts the offending content, a good case for getting him blocked could be made. [[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield|Tiptoethrutheminefield]] ([[User talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield|talk]]) 02:50, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
:::[[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield]] Shouldn't a POV tag be used for content that can be disputed, not content that is a huge violation of the guidelines? --[[User:Oatitonimly|Oatitonimly]] ([[User talk:Oatitonimly#top|talk]]) 15:28, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
::::Depending on the issue, it could be the same thing. The huge violation here seems to be the unashamed pov wording, so I think the tag is legitimate. Of course the pov wording could just be removed without first tagging the article. However, tagging the article puts down a marker that there are pov problems and (because the pov tag has to be justifiable and be accompanied by an explanation about why it is necessary) this makes it difficult for Freedom Wolfs to re-insert the pov wording. It shouldn't be the task of other editors to have to clean up Freedom Wolfs' messes - if this editor continues in this way, repeatedly using pov wording, maybe he needs a formal warning that he is writing unacceptable content. [[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield|Tiptoethrutheminefield]] ([[User talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield|talk]]) 16:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::That's why I dropped a warning and explanation on his talk, to open up the possibility of a ban if he keeps doing this. --[[User:Oatitonimly|Oatitonimly]] ([[User talk:Oatitonimly#top|talk]]) 17:01, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
== Edit Warring ==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Hi Oatitonimly. Please refrain from edit warring in pages like you're doing in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_War_of_Independence&diff=prev&oldid=723355620 Turkish War of Independence] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_language&diff=prev&oldid=723355658 Armenian Language]. Please use the talk page and reliable sources. See [[WP:3RR]], [[WP:TP]] and [[WP:RS]]. Thank you. ([[User:N0n3up|N0n3up]] ([[User talk:N0n3up|talk]]) 16:54, 2 June 2016 (UTC))
:Please refrain from edit-warring. I am more than willing to talk about the subject in hand. You said you took it to the talk page, you did discuss there but never about the topic you keep deleting. I opened a discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Turkish_War_of_Independence#Taking_away_valuable_info here]. And please refrain from reverting until reaching consensus thus not risking violating the Three-Revert Rule. ([[User:N0n3up|N0n3up]] ([[User talk:N0n3up|talk]]) 23:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC))
You are also edit warring on [[Caucasian race]]. Stop. [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] <small>Please {{[[Template:re|re]]}}</small> 19:00, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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