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Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello Zhuyifei1999

The consultation about talk pages has been created on Commons. However, that consultation is not getting much attention from the other Commons users.

As you listed yourself as a Technical Ambassador, I'm contacting you in order to ask for your help. Would you like to post the announce about that consultation everywhere needed to reach as many people on Commons as possible? We need to have the most diverse opinions from Commonists, from experienced users to newcomers

Thank you in advance for your help! Please ping me if you have any question.

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Trizek (WMF): Hi. I'm more of a technical person than a 'consulting' person, and prefers to look at bugs and issues rather than yet-to-know-what-is-best features. So I'm afraid that is way outside my comfort zone. If there is a clear cut technical problem (rather than a social problem) I'm happy to help. Sorry about that. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 23:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your frank reply. :) Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

POTY Oustalet's chameleon -

Hi. I think you may be one of the organizers. MY FP was a series of 4 linked images, but POTY only shows one. Could you ask someone to rfectify this please as it's not going to get many voes as is. Thanks. Charles (talk) 13:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@Charlesjsharp: Which files are you referring to? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:44, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Actually, let's move this discussion to Commons_talk:Picture_of_the_Year/2018/Help#Oustalet's_chameleon --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Something wrong with your bot

Please see Revision #342288461.--Ferdi2005 _(Posta) 22:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferdi2005 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

You can see by yourself that your bot hates me (this comment is signed but it added the unsigned). Please stop it.--Ferdi2005 _(Posta) 22:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferdi2005 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ferdi2005: The link target of Ferdi2005 does not exist. (I would say red link, but that's literally red link...) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements Lua function or the #statements parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using a Kartographer <maplink> if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
• There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

Problems

• Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
• Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed. [1]
• Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed. [2][3]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

SignBot hasn't signed anything in 5 hours

Please check it.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 17:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

It ran out of memory. I restarted it with signals. It still holds the lowest job id (name is "comsign") :) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - development update, March 2019

This text is also posted on the Structured Data hub talk page. You can reply there with questions, comments, or concerns.

A development update for the current work by the Structured Data on Commons team:

After the release of multilingual file captions, work began on getting depicts and other statements ready for release. These were originally scheduled for release in February and into March, however there are currently two major blockers to finishing this work (T215642, T217157). We will know more next week about when depicts and statements can likely be ready for testing and then release; until then I've tentatively updated the release schedule.

Once the depicts feature is ready for testing, it will take place in two stages on TestCommons. The first is checking the very basics; is the design comfortable, how does the simple workflow of adding/editing/removing statements work, and building up help and process pages from there. The second part is a more detailed test of depicts and other statements, checking the edge-case examples of using the features, bugs that did not come up during simple testing, etc. Additionally we'll be looking with the community for bugs in interaction with bots, gadgets, and other scripts once the features are live on Commons. Please let me know if you're interesting in helping test and fix these bugs if they show up upon release, it is really hard to find them in a test environment or, in some cases, bugs won't show up in a testing environment at all.

One new thing is definitely coming within the next few weeks, pending testing: the ability to search for captions. This is done using the inlabel keyword in search strings, and will be the first step in helping users find content that is specifically structured data. I'll post a notice when that feature is live and ready for use.

Thanks, let me know if you have questions about these plans. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

您好

由于commons那里有说明您看的懂中文，所以我就直说了。就是呢有个commons管理员以“no valid reason”关闭我所提删的地图文件。其中大部分文件已经经过svg化，并且在边界上面有些问题，希望您可以帮助我解决这个问题，谢谢。

其中一些讨论 Commons:Deletion requests/File:Seberang Perai DUN.svg Commons:Deletion requests/File:Machang Bubuk electoral constituency.svg Commons:Deletion requests/File:District borders of Perak.PNG Commons:Deletion requests/File:District borders of Perak.jpg*angys* (talk) 11:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

删除的确不是说删就删的，考虑到有用户可能会使用这些图片。我们在这方面有个方针，我不能随意“藐视方针”。现在能做的最好的事就是找旧图片的使用并替换成新图片，并用{{Superseded}}之类的标记一下 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March. [4][5]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Admins will be able to block someone from editing a page or a namespace. This already works on a few Wikimedia wikis. You can read more. If your wiki wants to be an early tester of this, you can tell the developers. [6]
• Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

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19:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - early depicts testing

The Structured Data on Commons development team has the very basic version of depicts statements available for early testing on Test-Commons. You can add very basic depicts statements to the file page by going into the new “Structured Data” tab located below the "Open in Media Viewer button." You can use the Latest Files link in the left side nav bar to select existing images, or use the UploadWizard to upload new ones to test with (although those images won’t actually show up on the site). The test site is not a fully functional replica of Commons, so there may be some overall problems in using the site, but you should be able to get a general idea of what using the feature is like.

Early next week I will call for broad, community-wide testing of the feature similar to what we did for Captions, with instructions for testing, known bugs, and a dedicated space to discuss the feature as well as a simple help page for using statements. Until then, you're welcome to post on the SDC talk page with what you might find while testing depicts.

Thanks in advance for trying it out, you'll be hearing more from me next week. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version. [7]

Problems

• There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed. [8]
• The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon. [9]
• Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them. [10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this. [11]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Stalled Bot?

I think FlickreviewR 2 is stalled. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 16:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I saw. The host `tools-sgeexec-0928` is unresponsive. I'm looking into it. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:48, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
• Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers. [12][13]

Problems

• You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [14]
• A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [15]
• Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [16]

Changes later this week

• When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [17]
• The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [18]
• The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return "" (empty string). When you read a page it will return "-" (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [19]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [20][21]
• The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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18:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Size too large?

File:2019.02.05 NMB48「2019 日本物產展」NMB48相約一同活力舞新春 18-00場活動 Day 1@高雄漢神巨蛋-1F廣場 & 8F活動會館 DSC 0495 (33120409878).jpg is identical to the flickr original, but the bot returns size_not_found. Does the large size of 26Mb cause the error?--Roy17 (talk) 21:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Might be some network issues. I see a lot of errors like

[2019-04-09 20:24:33] Exception reviewing image File:2019.02.06 NMB48「2019 日本物產展」NMB48相約一同活力舞新春14-00場活動 Day 2@高雄漢神巨蛋-1F廣場 & 8F活動會館 DSC 2926 (46288399244).jpg
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/data/project/yifeibot/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py", line 436, in <module>
    fr.run()
  File "/data/project/yifeibot/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py", line 77, in run
    review_result, data = self.review(image)
  File "/data/project/yifeibot/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py", line 125, in review
    flickr_image = self.Flickr[photo_id]
  File "/data/project/yifeibot/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/shared/flickr.py", line 66, in __getitem__
    exif = self.get(self.method_base + '.photos.getExif', ('photo_id', id)).get('photo', {}).get('exif', ())
  File "/data/project/yifeibot/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/shared/flickr.py", line 24, in get
    u = urllib2.urlopen(url)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 154, in urlopen
    return opener.open(url, data, timeout)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 435, in open
    response = meth(req, response)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 548, in http_response
    'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 473, in error
    return self._call_chain(*args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 407, in _call_chain
    result = func(*args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 556, in http_error_default
    raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp)
urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway
[2019-04-09 20:29:57] File sizes do not match. Commons: 46871; Flickr: 0

This one was a stdout log entry of [2019-04-09 21:31:00] * [[:File:2019.02.05 NMB48「2019 日本物產展」NMB48相約一同活力舞新春 18-00場活動 Day 1@高雄漢神巨蛋-1F廣場 & 8F活動會館 DSC 0495 (33120409878).jpg]] size_not_found cc-by-sa-2.0, and the only relevant stderr log entry seems to be [2019-04-09 21:31:00] File sizes do not match. Commons: 27467299; Flickr: 0 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 23:28, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually, now that I look at the code and adding a few prints, Apparently it's looking for a Content-Length HTTP header when accessing https://live.staticflickr.com/7821/33120409878_03c4aa67a0_o.jpg, which unfortunately is missing. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 23:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will get a new constraint status called suggestion. This will change how the WikibaseQualityConstraints constraint checking API works. [22][23]
• You can test the depicts property for structured data on Commons.

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22:59, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

massive size_not_found

Category:Flickr images needing human review: 2k+ could not be verified. I tested File:Academy Street, Bryson City, NC (45923202514).jpg. It's the same as the flickr original, but the bot still failed.--Roy17 (talk) 19:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Liiks like the same case as User_talk:Zhuyifei1999#Size_too_large?. I currently (until early May, hopefully) have zero time (due to real life stuffs) to look into how to fix it. Can someone send a patch? The code is at https://tools.wmflabs.org/yifeibot/gitweb/?p=botscripts.git;a=blob;f=o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py;h=d44f9527480b9a702e6cfdc450eef7421d388231;hb=4eb7f2a04b3a6406709ad113fac366b69f78e353 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:16, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

If some Flickr files lack Content-Length headers, then you might fetch the content body and find the length yourself, e.g. len(requests.get(url).content). Here's a possible patch that only checks the length manually if the header is missing. clpo13_(talk) 06:02, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, applied. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:28, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Re:

hi mr. Zhuyifei1999 I received your message, I have to say that I'm new, but unfortunately I don't know how to create a fanbox--Charlotte Pawłew (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Charlotte Pawłew: , not 'fanbox' but a file description page. You have created plenty of them --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

I should load a small version, so that you can overload it ??, if it were so then I do it in a cold way--Charlotte Pawłew (talk) 15:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@Charlotte Pawłew: If I understand you correctly, yes. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

here is the file, I just loaded it very soon I hope it's okay to be overloaded by you :)--Charlotte Pawłew (talk) 18:55, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

I heartily thank you for the favor you have given me, thank you very much, by chance you also take care of the file recovery ?? some portraits are in rules, you could give us a quick look, they are all portraits and paintings (with added photographs), all PD-100 license material, it's not my stuff, but a friend of mine had asked me if I could put a word with an administrator about it because of his deleted files

link-->(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Francesco_Braia_di_Corradi) --Charlotte Pawłew (talk) 23:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

No. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 23:59, 18 April 2019 (UTC)